Thread 16 Starmer - Mad World

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Prescott funeral sounds extremely fitting. I'm listen to R4 and MN during my lunch break but it's not on there.

Devastating news about the air crash in USA.

Its live on BBC news and on Sky.

No way?!

RIP John Prescott. I always liked him, especially after his Gavin and Stacey cameo.

We could do Starmer - we're not talking about you over there. Just to make sure we don't get a thread deleted 😆

Although I like the idea of a nod to Prescott in it.

Starmer and the Prince of Prestatyn?

Anyone can sign up to be a minister of this church - just pay some money and get a certificate. My trans sibling has - I am sure CR would be mortified by this fact.

I'm still vaguely considering becoming a minister in the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster under the same model. $40 last time I looked. 🤣

Starmer - The Official Mumsnet Fanclub.

I know, not a good idea. Just tired of lurking snitches. (The Harry Potter golden kind, obvs. Nobody could possibly think I meant anything else).

Well at least it would forestall any questions

This made me laugh

"Starmer - The Official Mumsnet Fanclub."

 I was going to suggest similar for this thread but decided discretion was the better etc etc.
Maybe we should just adopt it for all future titles. As @bombastix says it will save the questions.

bylinetimes.com/2025/01/30/how-right-wing-media-spread-the-false-claim-that-one-in-twelve-londoners-are-illegal-migrants/

Good article from Zoe Gardner.
I didn't realise around half of undocumented population are women.

I have to say I got tearful about Prescott because he was a hopeful figure in our politics. There was this practical quality in him to make something actually deliver. Blair was quite right when he remarked that Labour have an uneasy relationship with power and that Prescott worked to achieve it actually operating for the benefit of ordinary people.

This is quite a rare quality in people and particularly in UK politics where most will have had elite educations and will be pretty much of the same kind of thinking even if they profess to be in a different party. They are ten a penny.

The Labour Party, and indeed those of us who want a more society just society owe Prescott our gratitude.

But I'm not a fan of Starmer - even though I'm left of centre . And I won't, for the foreseeable future (a generation ), ever vote Labour, although I do look forward to having the opportunity to vote for a still to be established non-branch party of a left wing party. I might even vote Green

Yet c30 years ago, when I lived in England, I used to vote Labour and was proud of doing so.

Just had time now I've finished work to pop in and see if we've found out what we did to have MNLily come in to administer a gentle warning. No further information I see. There was evidently a complaint though.

I suppose going forward we best not discuss other threads etc. at all. But it is difficult to know where the line is and how not to cross it if we don't have clarity on what we are specifically not allowed to mention.

@LilyMumsnet please help us out here!

John Prescott - RIP - was much better in opposition, IMHO. Like so many politicians he lost it when he was actually in power.

My abiding memory of him will forever be a QT pre 1997 (when it was good) where he became visibly angry over Tory attitudes and ended by saying their vision would be a country where everyone was selling everyone else insurance and not making anything.

Michael Green would like a word.

I wouldn't want to alienate prettybird anyone, Pointy's first suggestion gets my vote

Not those pesky facts again...

Didn't our very own sainted Kemi say something about insisting on facts is a distraction to debate, or somesuch similar ?

I have to admit (like Sherlock) I have her on permanent mute as a defence mechanism for my few remaining shreds of sanity so I may have got mixed up.

A few polls now have Reform overtaking Conservatives in second place

A selection of Nige's friends

https://bylinetimes.com/2025/01/30/nigel-farage-pictured-with-far-right-activists-who-posted-pride-swastikas-and-racist-rants/

But as we know only too well, "The only poll that matters ..."

Things will look a bit different when both Reform and the Tories have some polices that aren't "Boo ! Labour !". Especially as they still need to appeal to people who didn't want Brexit, didn't want the Brexit we got, and would rather we never had Brexit. Without a significant number of those voters - who are spread across the political spectrum - they can remain the sideshow freaks they really are.

Careful. Reform signups from MN will double.

Nice friends, Nige…
A man is known by the company he keeps.