Could Trump take Greenland by force?

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I would like to think he couldn’t, but could he? Would he basically invade it if he couldn’t buy it? Would the UK defend it as part of NATO?

Could he also take the Panama Canal?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gzn48jwz2o

I’m hoping it’s all distraction politics but I also think Trump and his cronies are stupid and dangerous people.

Another statue extolling imperialism and the evisceration of a people that stood outside the Capitol building for over a century;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TheRescue(sculpture)

Commissioned by the white settler government, its sculpture wrote it is "to convey the idea of the triumph of the whites over the savage tribes".

2 minds.

Its certainaly possible given the fire power and the economic power of the US to make them an offer that looks great but doesn't deliver. If he goes for it, it will be $$$ that gets it not guns.

However, he tried to overturn the election last time and it didn't work, so I am not conivinced he has the comptency to actually make anything happen in real life that isn't just for show.

This lebensraum (Nazi move east) is the ancestor of "Manifest destiny" (the white settlers move West

Descendant of, not ancestor. The white invasion of America predates the Third Reich.

And as for Elon musk, an Afrikaner, an entity whose apartheid policies were directly inspired by the white settler entity america the global leader in race law (racial segregation, interracial marriage illegal (anti-miscegenation), white only citizenship, white only vote, white only immigration (until the 1965 act), anti-literacy law (blacks banned from learning for fear of them becoming educated and revolting), it's no bleedin wonder he has a kinship with them.

abraham lincoln in 1858;

"I am not, nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people. I as much as any man am in favor of the superior position assigned to the white race."

Abraham Lincoln (1989). Speeches and Writings 1832–1858: Speeches, Letters, and Miscellaneous Writings : the Lincoln-Douglas Debates. Vol. 1. Library of America. page. 638.

Lincoln, the fourth member of the white supremacist Mt. rushmore (fittingly sculpted by gutzon borglum, a kkk member), the other three I've mentioned: two slave owning racist tyrants (jefferson and washington) and the other in roosevelt who called for the complete evisceration of the Native people.

So I think I've answered the OP's question, could trump (ie. the imperialist white settler entity) take yet another land?... obviously.

He's such a whiny little bitch.

True, but Trump's hardcore base are for anything he wants, no matter how crazy, and they represent about 30% of the electorate.
I feel bad for decent Americans like you that you have to put up with Trumpers in daily life.

It's horrifying. What was even more bizarre was the number of UK people here on MN who were defending it. I was shocked at how many there were.

Just to show that the imperialist white settler entity america has not completely tried to whitewash its history toward non white peoples, in 2018 Laura Ingalls Wilder (who wrote Little House on the Prairie, an imperialist story about white colonisers), her name was removed from the children's award that had been named after her due to how her book portrayed blacks and Native people.

https://apnews.com/article/19112531f7a24c9c8ab43b7968c96a1d

Funny thing is the USA couldn't take Vietnam, couldn't do shit in Afghanistan, have needed us the UK to hold their hands in all their wars; yet people are on Mumsnet thinking they can just take Greenland 🤣🤣🤣

I think you're giving trump & the USA a bit too much credit where it most certainly is not due.

Yes!

Elon Musk isn't an Afrikaner. I feel obliged to point that out on behalf of all Afrikaners.

Have had that going round in my head since the 51st state was mentioned. Went to see them back in the day.

What a shit show this whole fiasco with Trump and Musk is. I do hope somewhere, somehow common sense prevails.

The US tried invading Panama in 1989 to remove Noriega and "secure the canal." It wasn't Reagan's finest moment.

Also, I'd caution anyone British against looking down on American history vis-a-vis the Native Americans. All told, the UK has a far worse record, and we were the ones who got the ball rolling in America.

Cuthbert, Dibble and Grubb.

I agree and in England in general. Last time around everyone was reassuringly horrified, this time around people are spouting his rhetoric. But they all seem to have the same script so I think they’re all getting the same social media algorithm.

@HappyPen exactly that! They all spew the same shite and sound as insane as the orange one.

Yes, my personal favorite wanker bingo card entry is this one:

’But neither candidate was great were they?’

Saying that one of them was a convicted felon and sexual abuser, racist, sexist and separated children from their parents and kept them in cages (some still not reunited) and an endless laundry list of other items doesn’t seem to make much difference. I heard somebody say it’s like being on a plane and being offered the chicken or shit sandwich and asking how the chicken was cooked. I thought that about covered it.

"an offer they cant refuse" ?

Greenland falls under Denmark that has one of the world's best social services programs - nobody in Greenland is unemployed & living in total poverty

But you think a failed businessman will millions in debt is going to be capable of making any sort of deal that will make them want to become American ?

How many Americans voted for him again?! 😳

I'm sorry to tell you that yes, there are unemployed Greenlanders and ones in poverty. The estimated unemployment rate is 9% and the poverty rate is 16%. I wonder how truly accurate the unemployment rate is because there are Greenlanders still practicing many traditional ways of life. Now, Danish welfare keeps them from desperate poverty, and they do have things like free education and health care, but Greenland is not quite what you imagine when you think of Denmark. As well as the ugly history of how Denmark treated the Greenlanders, discrimination in Denmark proper is still a very real issue.

True but will Greenland and it's citzens have better welfare and economy under USA? I very much doubt that.

He can only serve 4 years

I recently saw a programme that was talking about why Greenland could be a target for Russia. I wish I could remember what it was, but as well as the geographic location and the natural resources they were saying that it was about the shipping route. With the ice cap melting so fast, the Arctic route will soon make it a much quicker and less expensive route for China’s main shipping route and Russia would therefore benefit from controlling it. Trump may be thinking the same, especially as he has been talking about the Panama Canal as well.

The Russians will not attack Greenland as that would constitute an attack on a NATO state.

Do you think he wants to build a new golf course?