Films that would not be made now

[Samcro]

I know it’s a topic that has been done before.
but what film do you think would not be made now and why?
mine is, every which way but loose.
yep the Clint Eastwood film with the orangutan

From my own post, way upthread on 29th December. Mike Batt has been mentioned a few times in response to the Paul McCartney comment.

Rosscameasdoody · 29/12/2024 05:05

weareallcats · 28/12/2024 23:19
Watership Down is terrifying - a cheesy Paul McCartney song did not make it less so.

Mike Batt wrote the theme song to Watership Down - Bright Eyes. And it was sung by Art Garfunkel, nothing to do with McCartney. Can’t believe how easily classics are being dismissed as ‘disgusting’ here, including Lolita which is also a literary classic. Context is everything and as usual with the cancel mindset there is precious little.

As awful as the Wayans brothers posing as white females in White Chicks ?

Since I've never seen it, I wouldn't know. But yeah, blacking up is generally not something that would be included in a film these days, let alone form the entire basis of one.

Soul Man was made in the 80s, so not long ago at all really. It's interesting what the blind spots are in every era and every era has one. We know that our current era also has several. So yeah, it's entirely possible that people will be saying the same thing about that film. This isn't a wokery competition, just a comment on what we think would and wouldn't be made now under current ways of thinking.

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Scum .. institutional racism and violence.

Wasn't there a female equivalent of Scum? It had a young Kathy Burke in it and Dana Gillespie.

Tropic Thunder

Revenge of the Nerds. Although that caused a storm of offence at the time too and has gone down as a shit film best forgotten. There's a phenomenon in modern stories whereby it's seen as totally fine for a man to treat women like dirt if he's nerdy/geeky/awkward, but it's not usually turned up to quite that level.

That I don't know but would be interested to know..Kathy burke did some good straight parts.
Nil by mouth.

forrest gump is on currently
dh is avidly watching
i have never liked it

You're missing the point.

Please explain?

The point is about films, shows, jokes etc where things like blacking up were treated as acceptable and normal e.g the Black and White Minstrel Show being the extreme example.

The director Alan Clark wasn't showing institutional racism, bullying and violence because they were socially acceptable but because that was what happened in the Borstal system. And no doubt probably still goes on in the Young Offenders Institutions which replaced the Borstal system.

There are still deaths by suicide happening in YOIs- and I don't doubt that institutional racism, violence and lack of care by wardens will contribute to such suicides.

Violence was accepted..the short sharp shock was introduced by Willie Whitelaw if I remember correctly.
The language used in scum I couldn't see a British director being able to use that now.

Violence was not acceptable. It happened but no one thought it was acceptable. That was the point Alan Clark was making.

It wasn't me who mentioned this film but there was alot of criticism at the time it came out from the murder victims families as well as leading civil rights activists.

I think particularly to do with the white perspective only, FBI being portrayed as the heroes when many activists report a lot of mistreatment from them, and also inaccuracies about the murders themselves. I remember watching it when I was alot younger and thinking it was great but it's interesting to look at with an older perspective. There is some interesting stuff online about the controversy it caused.

I agree with you what I meant was to the wider public the Short,Sharp,Shock approach was right and the kids who were exposed to it deserved it.
I dare say scum was an eye opener for many and certain scenes definitely put me off of ever ending up in borstal.

My recollection is that everything about "Scum" - including the language - was meant to shock.

It was language of the time,I remember seeing on the news the National Front marches, love thy neighbour used racist language definitely of it's time.
It was the violence I found shocking and the rape scene bearing in mind I think I was 15 when I saw it.

I absolutely loathe that film! Gross.

OMG I think it's really good. Yeah it's gritty, and grim af with the middle aged man shagging two 16 year olds, but this sort of thing did happen back then (still does probably!) and they were over the age of consent.

I think the original play had a different ending, and perhaps a different overall tone, that made it clearer that you weren't supposed to find it funny or acceptable.

Going back ages - 7 Brides for 7 Brothers is based on the Roman myth of the rape of the Sabine women.

Hence the song called "The Sobbin' Women", the original planned title for the film.

But they were very very clear that in this version, the women were not raped, and the men pay for it, plus Millie rules that roost. Doesn't make the whole thing perfectly OK, but they did question the original a bit.

I agree, that was an appalling film. Even as a child when I saw it on TV I was not comfortable with it, didn't know why then. I was telling my son (45 now) about the film a while ago and he could hardly believe such a thing was made, even way back then.