Films that would not be made now

[Samcro]

I know it’s a topic that has been done before.
but what film do you think would not be made now and why?
mine is, every which way but loose.
yep the Clint Eastwood film with the orangutan

Marnie. ‘That’ close up scene with a young Sean Connery may have been smouldering and highly ‘sexually charged’ back then, but now it’s basically a rape scene. Very problematic indeed.

Even at the time it was clearly a rape scene, as shown by the close-up on Tippi Heddren's face and the subsequent attempted suicide.

I've read that Hitchcock was angry with her for rejecting his advances (he was a known creep) and deliberately shot the scene in a way to make it as horrible for her as possible.

Yup. He was an absolute creep.

I first heard this story in an interview by Melanie Griffith:

https://people.com/movies/dakota-johnson-alfred-hitchcock-grandmother/

I'd like to think that a lot of the ways cast members, especially women, were treated wouldn't happen now ( a la Shelley Duvall by Kubrick in the Shining, Tippi Hedren by Hitchcock, the Maria Schneider/Marlon Brando rape scene) but unfortunately, I think it's pretty certain that often they still do.

A few PPs have suggested this, but I'm honestly not quite sure why. Can you please explain @celticprincess ?

For a start, isn't there a significant age difference between the characters played by the two leads?

I've just done a search. Not a big age gap, but "Baby" is apparently only 17.

All the movies mentioned have to be viewed in the context of when they were made. What society, or the general population, sees as acceptable at a given moment depends on many things and that applies today as well.
There would also be many film scripts or ideas that were thrown out in the past for being too revealing or risque or covering a taboo subject that are made now.
If we go further back in history we will find times when an enlightened period was followed by a more closed one or the reverse.
Those in power or the media had the most impact on this in the past but then came the movies and now social media. The more people you can reach the more opinion you create.

I said that there is an undesirable side to sex work and stamping it out should be pursued as vigorously as any other crime. Again, do we rail against money laundering in casinos even though it involves extortion, tax evasion, coercion, and violence and say they should be shut down? Do we use demeaning terms to describe the people who work at casinos. No we don't. If I had a sister who was of legal age and made an informed and free decision that sex work was for her and had a long term plan in mind just as you would in other careers it then I would support her. Of course I would worry about her being harmed but again many other jobs entail serious risk. I would not think any less of her. An ex work colleague of mine who has better university qualifications than me and was smarter than me was passed over for most positions she applied for and was making no headway with her education debt or saving for a dwelling. She took up escort work 4 years ago and has cleared the education debt and has a very nice apartment plus an investment property. She works 20 hours a week now on average. She will go into something else in a few years time all before 35. She has a long term partner who knows what she does.

I was an adult and it upset me. When I was a child I cried every time an animal died in a book or film. I survived and I still love animals but I accept their lives are short. I am still sad when they die.

There are so many things wrong with this post and your subsequent post about casinos that it's difficult to know where to start, probably pointless and the wrong thread and forum.

Calamity Jane

OMG I was in the room when my teenage and 22YO daughters were watching this the other day. I hated everything about it. I can’t bear most RomComs, but this was particularly painful.

No one who’s autistic wants a neurotypical apologising for their ‘behaviour’.

And it continues today with the casting couch, Weinstein and so on.

This is a truly awful post, thank god not many think like you.

It has however been made into a Broadway musical where the Jack Lemmon role is played by a non-binary actor (who won a Tony award for it) and the character now comes to the conclusion he's trans/genderfluid and needs to live as his authentic self!

I watched it again a few months ago and he definitely isn't Gigi's father. Nor is he a father figure to her. He's Gastons uncle. Her grandmother is his former mistress. The song isn't about his regret at her growing up, I wish it was

Nothing wrong with it. Could easily be remade.

She's right, you're wrong I'm afraid.

Watching what?

Agreed.Awful post.

it was a Mike Batt (Wombles & Katie Melua) song! sung by Art Garfunkel

Yep watched it again this Christmas and we said exactly the same thing. How beautiful does Julia Roberts look in that film though!!

The fact that you don’t want a relationship or can’t get sex elsewhere doesn’t entitle you to purchase sex. I will gloss over your glowing account of sex work because I don’t think even you believe it.

Pretty Woman is a repellent film for a number of reasons: that it turns street prostitution into the unimportant prelude to a fairytale aimed at young women.

That its romantic hero is a total dickhead who buys a powerless young street prostitute for a week because it’s simpler than actually forming a relationship with an equal. He then patronises and condescends to her for a week: ‘first time in an elevator’, lecturing her about strawberries bringing out the taste of champagne despite the fact he doesn’t drink and can’t possibly know, embarrassed by her gaucheness at the opera, telling her to smile at the polo etc.

That, after he discovers his lawyer trying to rape his hired girlfriend, he punches him, but in the subsequent argument there is absolutely no reference to the near-rape and physical assault, only to differences about business practices. He doesn’t even fire him.

That the message of the entire firm is that money buys not only consent, but everything: because the ghastly Edward is a valued customer of the hotel, staff go along with the ‘niece’ fiction, and vanish at a word from the restaurant where they are doing their jobs clearing up when he wants to have sex with a prostitute on the grand piano, a shop lends him jewellery worth a quarter of a million dollars, he famously buys the ‘sucking up’ of an entire store’s staff, and enjoys being explicit about this power, and Vivienne, learning fast, gets a shop assistant to hand over his own tie so she can give it to her millionaire john, and calls back to the shop that refused to serve her to taunt the staff.

Vivienne will turn into one of the unhappy blonde ice queen wives she meets at the polo, and Edward will discover the limits of what money can buy when Vivienne’s origins are known and she’s not accepted socially, while Vivienne will discover she’s in fact married to Stucky the lawyer.

Because the fact is that Edward is Stucky the repellent lawyer — work-obsessed, loves the ‘kill’, fine with using prostitutes. Edward and Stucky should get married, they’re a perfect match.