Christmas market attack in Germany tonight😥 article linked

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/dec/20/germany-christmas-market-madgeburg
I have attended many Christmas markets over the years. They are so crowded especially at the moment as German children finished school for the Christmas holidays. Frightening, my prayers are with all the victim's 🙏

The Green Party? How does that align with your GC views?

I disagree - we have a poster saying the concrete bollards at xmas markets are to protect against traffic accidents and its completely normal for armed police to be there too.

Thats not my normal. I dont want to bring my kids up in this bullshit. And I wont listen to the gaslighting anymore

Its insane that people sit there slack jawed and pretend that this is completely o.k - maybe it gives them a sense or moral authority or maybe they have a vested interest - who knows..

I guess you don't speak other languages, particularly not German. The first translation that comes up when you Google a phrase often isn't the most accurate. Clearly in this video he is responding to something they've said to him by saying alles klar - I've got it or ok.

OP, he probably chose a Christmas market because that is where he could get access to a large crowd. People go to the markets to drink wine, eat food, buy things and spend time with family and friends, not to do Christian things (some Christians see these markets as the commercial degradation of religious practice anyway). This man will have known very well that a festive shopping experience is not the place to go if you wish to target Christians in particular. In Germany, as in the UK, rule of law and honest assessment of the facts is important. That means the authorities will judge the situation by the facts, not by allowing themselves to be led by the assumptions in people's heads. If we're going to hold up liberal democracy as something that the West can be proud of, we do have to actually stick to those principles.

They don't align with my views thats my point!
I'm not a supporter but I agreed & shared some of their sustainable living proposals which I thought very sensible & would have liked implemented. It doesn't mean I'm a green follower or supported though just because I agree & like certain elements of their manifesto

LOL - I've liked plenty of Rosie Duffield posts, do I align with Labour? Over my dead body

The reality is that the profile of the attacker is unusual and complex and I don't think the his real motives will ever be known and he probably doesn't even know himself.

The suggestion that he was far right or anti Islamist doesn't add up with his choice of target namely a Christmas market where the majority of the victims would have been German, white and Christian.

I do think that it is very much in the interest of the MSM and the German government to portray this attack as somehow being linked to the AfD (with elections due early next year) and Islamophobic to avoid encouraging any anti Muslim protests when so little fact is known right now. There have even been suggestions that he was somehow working for the Israelis which is desperate anti semetic bollocks.

What we do know for sure is that he was an asylum seeker, warnings were sent by Saudi that he was an "extremist" and that he was an angry unstable individual.

It is also true to state that if he had refused asylum and had been deported to Saudi then this attack would not have occurred.

Well, we do. We have traffic stopping obstacles at pedestrian area entrances here, with the primary reason being to prevent cars accidentally driving into those areas.

We also have some armed police. Whose deployment is because of violent offending risks - most of which is not terrorist in nature, at least in my area.

I'm a bit confused about this thread.

It seems from my understanding that the OP is concerned about terrorism and radicalisation.

I think she wants an end to senseless violence.

Her posts talk about identifying people who could be radicalised and preventing radicalisation.

Nothing in her posts seem to indicate she has an issue with immigration here, nor does she have a problem with people who have come here from abroad or who are the children and grandchildren of people who have emigrated here.

I think the OP would acknowledge that the overwhelming majority of immigrants here have settled in fine and make contributions to society.

Would this be correct, OP? And if so, what do you think of all the comments on this thread that are concerned with "our country being lost, white people becoming a minority"

Last time the armed response police were called out here was when a mentally ill person had barricaded themselves in a house threatening to blow it up

Lots of different reasons/circumstances why they might be used

The green Party and the AFD are not on the same level though. Do you like Tommy Robinson posts to and want to get in contact with him per chance?
If he would have posted "the police needs radical islamists" and wanting to work together with a radical islamist faction what would you have said?

Im pretty sure the attacker knows why he did it - why are you infantilising him?

The latest is that he was a fugitive from Saudi and Germany refused to deport him. I'm sure there are more nuances but it looked like he had been flagged several times and the authorities didn't do anything.

Exactly the fact this man liked a few posts & shared them he is supposed to be a supporter. People cannot like different political viewpoints & proposals without being a follower. Buy it fits the agenda to paint him as a supporter.
I'm most certainly not a green supporter but I do l think some of their sustainability proposals are excellent & will happily like and share.

What a load of rubbish - and what on earth has that got to do with yet another terrorist attack on Christmas goers?

Stop it with the hyperbole

Where did you read that he was a fugitive?

Twitter so obviously... It's just chat like on here but that's the latest there

But we do know Saudi wanted him back

No I don't follow him & I have not liked or shared his posts . I do not follow the Green Party either but tweets & Facebook posts have appeared in my social feeds from time to time & I liked sometimes even shared those I agreed with. I doesn't make me a follower to agree with some of their more sensible proposals.

Same with Rupert Lowe. I would never vote reform as I think Richard Tice and farage are nasty bastards but Rupert has pointed out some startling facts recently

Quick you will labelled you a racist, biggotted far right sympathiser for agreeing with truthful facts 🤣

Not so much that they didn't do anything - they claim to have investigated all tip-offs but found him not to be a risk

Risk assessments by their nature are never 100% accurate but maybe there's an issue with the risk assessments - they heavily rely on past behaviour predicting future behaviour and this man had never been violent - the only thing he'd been charged with was wasting police time in 2013

It's worrying

Extremely worrying.

Reliable news outlets on twitter or just random posters?

Zero fucks given - name calling is all anyone can do lately!