Another baby has been bitten by an xl bully

[Viviennemary]

Just seen on the news a baby is in hospital after being bitten by an xl bully. And two people have been arrested. Baby is in a serious condition. Why haven't these killer dogs been banned.

That poor wee baby. Really hope she pulls through, and without life changing injuries. How many dead and savaged children does it take? Put down the lot of this vicious breed.

I have 2 very friendly Lhasa Apso's but would never leave any child alone with them and they are very friendly dogs who like DC. You never know what a child might do like poke them in the eye or pull their tails and how they might react. No dog is 100 percent.

How 'new'? Is it registered? Or illegal? I'd have to report it, fir the sake of the children and my sister.

And being under 1% of dogs in the uk.

It's terrifying.

13 million dogs in UK of which about 55,000 are registered xl bullies with an estimated 15,000 unregistered. Some reports put figure much higher at total 100,000 registered and unregistered combined.

Let's go with the very highest estimate of 100,000
Out of 13 million dogs
Thats 0.8% of dogs causing 20% of deaths

And God knows what percentage of injuries.

And still you get the brain free club claiming its not the breed.

Yup

I'll never understand people who are lax with dogs and kids. Regardless of breed, they're still animals!

We got our pup when he was 8 weeks old, he's 9 now. He's a Border Collie and the gentlest, most good natured dog I've ever come across. But he's still an animal!

Example - as he's gotten older he tends to sleep a lot deeper at night. Last month I made the mistake of kissing his head to say good night when he was asleep on the couch late at night. He just reacted, because he was sleeping so deeply he didn't hear me.

He nipped my neck with his teeth. It was pouring with blood at the time, but thankfully wasn't that bad. It has left a scar though. Now, out of everyone in the house he's the most scared of me, so if he can react like that with me he can react like that with anyone.

So we're now keeping him away from DGD who is 2.

I personally would never have chosen a Shiba Inu as a pet with a 3 year old at home. You definitely didn’t have ‘suitability for families with young children’ at the top of your list of priorities when you picked that breed did you?

And yes it can be difficult to keep children and dogs apart 100% of them time without fail. Especially if you have more than one child (sounds like you only have the one?) And especially as the child gets older and learns how to open locks etc.

In terms of risk, it’s a bit like have an unfenced pond or pool in your back garden. You can convince yourself that you’ll never allow unsupervised access but all it takes is a momentary lapse of concentration as you deal with another child etc etc…

Absolutely awful what’s happened that poor child but couldn’t we say that about all breeds then? Those little ratty looking things and chihuahuas are absolutely awful for biting and snapping but nothing gets said about how viscous they act because they are small

ITs NoT thE BrEed

I don't know why people can't comprehend that itgis the breed. It's in their genetics. It's not the dog's fault. They are a tragic result of human cruelty, but this breed needs banning for safety.

Well no because they don’t kill do they.

This is how quick they can turn. No warning whatsoever.

(nb this clip isn't triggering)

They could probably really hurt or scar a young small child, might not kill but I’m sure they could still hurt someone

I wouldn’t dream of leaving my children unattended even with our family Labradors. They have never given me any indication at all of unpredictability - but no dog is 100% bombproof - and it’s unfair on the dog as well as unsafe for a young child to leave them together unsupervised.

When chihuahuas are in the news repeatedly because they're killing infants, children and fully grown adults and there's video after video of people being unable to free their victim from their tiny jaws then I will be fully supportive of a ban. I will organise the petition for them to be registered, neutered and ultimately die out.

Bully breeds latch on and don't let go. They are bred for fighting. That trait is genetically built into them and gas nothing to do with good training, in the same way puppies of other breeds demonstrate traits they have been bred for, such as hunting and herding.

They are unpredictable and a tragic consequence of human cruelty.

A Chihuahua is not genetically predisposed to aggression. They often are the result of poor owners. But a Chihuahua cannot kill you. An attack by an XL Bully will at worst kill you, or at best leave you with significant injuries or disfigurement.

You can boot a Chihuahua off. Even a toddler could likely kick off one. You literally have to choke a bully to make them let go. Hitting them does not work.

The two breeds are not comparable.

Well, yeah, a hamster can hurt someone and cats certainly can, but somehow most animals don't go round maiming and killing people, chihuahuas included.

I've never weighed in on the discussion about xl bullies before as simply I'm not educated enough too. However my initial reaction when I saw the news article this morning was that something more needs to happen and it needs to happen now, the register and restrictions put in place are clearly not sufficient.

I'm sure there are xl bullies that have never shown a hint of aggression and are much loved members of families as this particular dog has been claimed to be, but how many more children, babies for God's sake need to be killed or horrifically injured before enough is enough? The risk is just too high with this breed even if they are all rehomed to be with adult only households with vast knowledge of responsible ownership and gated areas for exercise on leads and muzzles, they've killed and seriously harmed adults too.

It saddens me for the well loved and cared for xl bullies who have never shown a hint of aggression towards any living creature or human and for their owners but I do believe the time has now come for euthanasia for ALL dogs of this breed.

I'm praying for the wee soul injured in this latest attack and for their loved ones who must be going through what thankfully only a handful of people will ever truly understand

"It is shocking. You see and hear about it all the time, but you don't actually think it is going to happen to your own family," she said.

How fucking stupid can you be?

True. You can easily yeet a chihuahua over your garden gate. Xl bullies? Not yeetable.

lol, you're pretty viscous yourself!😁

Thanks for the additional stats. It is terrifying, and yet still people will insist that the breed has nothing to do with it.

Those little ratty looking things and chihuahuas are absolutely awful for biting and snapping but nothing gets said about how viscous they act because they are small

That's because if they snapped, all you'd have to do was pick a child up and, if it came to it, give it a kick (and it probably wouldn't come to that because you don't need to use any kind of violence of overpower a chihuahua you can just pick them up).

I still wouldn't let them cuddle up in a baby's cot (what on earth were they thinking with that??) or leave them alone with a small child, but if an adult is there any problem could be dealt with extremely quickly. Unlike something like an XL bully where even if you are right there, if it decides it doesn't want to let go, you may as well be out of the house for all the difference you'd make.

It's unbelievable. Literally no ability to understand risk whatsoever. How do these rock bashers manage to cross the road?

I genuinely don't understand how the owners aren't nervous having these animals in their homes.
Surely after you've read a few reports on how they can turn you would be wary.
So, do you think they're a bit nervy around their own dogs but "tough it out" or do they really think it's a problem with other dogs but not theirs?

That is a very weak argument. Who is killed by a smaller dog or who has to be airlifted to hospital. These xl bullies are vicious killers and need to be completely banned. Nearly every serious or fatal attack reported recently is an xl bully.