If not Lurpak, what?

[PolaDeVeboise]

I like the 'white' butter of Lurpak, as opposed to the 'yellow' of most. Can anyone recommend a decent alternative?

All butter is Bovaer-free, even Lurpak, as it doesn’t get into the milk. Read the evidence!

Lidl's butter is in a black wrapper, sorry. V good.

I’m not being dramatic - that’s such an obnoxious put down.

People are looking for alternative products on the basis of rubbish they’ve read on the internet that has no basis in fact. It’s the same type of thinking that led to MMR vax rates dropping.

Lidl Danpak or Aldi Norpak!

How do you know? Women are told to be careful what they eat when breastfeeding because everything they consume goes into their milk, and therefore affects the baby.

You only have to look at all the drugs scandals to realise research papers are always tweaked favourably towards the pharmaceutical industry rather than safety. Always.

I stand by it. Equating people who are seeking out food which hasn't been furthered tinkered with aren't equivalent to anti-vaxxers. That is your analogy engineered to elicit distain out of something fairly benign.

Any organic dairy has to be completely segregated from non-organic. There are legal requirements in place for production that must be adhered to in order for a product to be able to be labelled organic. If you buy organic butter/milk/cream etc then you know that not only is it Bovaer free but the animals don't get regular shots of antibiotics/growth hormone, tend to be fed on grass/fodder and not cereals and have a better life. No factory farming. Just buy organic, it stops it becoming a headache.

I will only say this. An old friend of mine is an academic in the field of dentistry/periodontology and has spent years pursuing academic research into his field, lots of publications etc. He was offered full cover of all costs related to a particular research project but it was made clear that in his paper, the conclusion should state things that would be advantageous to the company offering the grant. He refused.

I am not convinced by the Bovaer 'evidence' given that only two studies were conducted over 90 days and 56 days respectively with a small number of cows. Two of the cows had to be euthanised for reasons not given. At necropsy, it was found that bovine hearts and ovaries were smaller than those of the cows in the control group. In a Japanese study it was found to affect male fertility. In rats, it was carcinogenic. To handle it one has to have breathing apparatus, skin and face coverings etc. There are no long term studies of its safety for either cows or humans. It wouldn't be the first time that agro-industrial 'solutions' have been declared safe and later found to be harmful, DDT is the example that immediately springs to mind.

Country Life butter is lovely

Aldi’s, think it’s called Danpak?

Sorry, I should have mentioned that this was from one of the largest toothpaste manufacturers globally.

The food hasn’t been tinkered with.

There is no impact on the milk.

The Food Standards Agency has confirmed this.

But you can see the effect on this thread of silly ill-informed speculation. Of anecdote and ‘my friend said her friend said her boss said’ rubbish that frightens people into making stupid choices. On which butter to buy its anodyne but the same happens with stuff that matters like vaccination. You can pretend it’s different all you like - it isn’t.

And your qualifications are?

I am a researcher in the medical field at a large university.

I would also point out that one doesn't have to be a scientist to read the FSA report. It is all there.

Fair enough.

But if it’s not in the milk and breaks down in the cows stomach how will it affect humans?

And yours?

Goodness that question triggered you a bit didn’t it! Three replies!

Several but none in food safety. Therefore I believe people who do have relevant qualifications - notably the FSA.

What do you mean you don’t use much butter?! I’m confused by this statement 😉

I can’t remember the name @PolaDeVeboise but the French one either sea salt in that costs a week’s salary but is worth it

eta I see the thread has moved on somewhat. Fuck me the world is a depressing place today.

There's no need for alternative products just because of the use of Bovaer though.

We know because it's been studied! 🫣

But what difference is it to you if they do?

The food (milk and milk containing products) hasn't been tampered with though. 🫣

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