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Thread 13 Starmer - facts are for lefties

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DuncinToffee · 06/12/2024 09:21

Previous thread:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5214955-thread-12-starmer-from-prescott-to-rayner-working-class-grit?page=40&reply=140341929

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bombastix · 10/12/2024 17:48

Notonthestairs · 10/12/2024 16:23

"NYYRC executive secretary Vish Burra told The Independent: “The NYYRC Gala is a party for winners, not globalist losers. MAGA Republicans are not interested in working with parties in the death throes of their moral integrity and electoral viability.”

"Globalist losers" - hhhhhmmm, wonder what they meant by that exactly.

The same article suggests the Conservatives are cosying up with Stephen 'true Americans' Miller - appreciate we will have to - or chose to - break bread with a lot of the rabid MAGA goons over the next few years but Miller seems particularly unpleasant. certainly have no interest in seeing his kind of rhetoric employed in the UK any more than it already has been.

This is all about money isn’t it? The Conservatives are broke. Their leader doesn’t have much of a profile and they don’t have many links with this new right.

Farage can say and do things that Badenoch can’t. He has no factions or rivals to placate, nor huge traditions or lip service to pay to longstanding grandees.

If you want to buy an outcome who is better? Him or Badenoch (who is less charming and personable btw).

Rhetorical question, btw.

Llttledrummergirl · 10/12/2024 17:58

Interesting that they don't associate with losers, when Farage gained fewer seats than the Conservatives. Not very bright MAGA again on that front.

Maybe a journalist should ask who failed to gain seats and was beaten by the Tories, AKA, bigger losers.

SerendipityJane · 10/12/2024 17:59

Llttledrummergirl · 10/12/2024 17:58

Interesting that they don't associate with losers, when Farage gained fewer seats than the Conservatives. Not very bright MAGA again on that front.

Maybe a journalist should ask who failed to gain seats and was beaten by the Tories, AKA, bigger losers.

(Like the British) Americans don't understand their own electoral system. Expecting them to appreciate it's nuances over popular vote and FPTP is a stretch too far.

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DuncinToffee · 10/12/2024 18:40

Farage has said something about Christian forgiveness when it comes to domestic abuse, fits right in with the maga crowd

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Alexandra2001 · 10/12/2024 18:42

Notonthestairs · 10/12/2024 16:29

"County council ( conservative led) is locally heavily publishing the extra grants they are giving to pensioners to replace lost the heating allowance, despite being in wealthy south east but has higher than average SEN and significantly lower than average spend."

I think pensioners manage to be much more vocal than SN parents or are perhaps better able to coalesce around particular issues and are backed by the media (do more pensioners buy/subscribe to newspapers I wonder?).
Speaking from my own experience parenting SN children/young adults is pretty lonely and it is often difficult to make the right sort of contacts to compare and complain together.
But then I suppose, according to Badenoch, I should be grateful for my child's financial advantages. Yes, I am rolling my eyes.

Everyone sympathises with Pensioners, they are the "Silent Generation" & all fought in WW2.... we owe them everything.

LlynTegid · 10/12/2024 18:43

DuncinToffee · 10/12/2024 18:40

Farage has said something about Christian forgiveness when it comes to domestic abuse, fits right in with the maga crowd

The MAGA crowd would probably have shot dead the abuser if they were aware of it, or the person being abused would have done so.

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DuncinToffee · 10/12/2024 18:57

It's in the job description of Trump appointees

An ex Tory MP who organised nazi themed stag paries has joined reform now

Just don't call them thick or racist

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bombastix · 10/12/2024 19:13

Well there you are. Natural consistency

cakeorwine · 10/12/2024 19:17

Government department spends £1,200 on two folders - BBC News

Is anyone reminded of Yes Minister with this?

Chancellor orders ministers to submit spending plans to private sector experts | Rachel Reeves | The Guardian

As part of the review, Reeves will insist that every government department find efficiency savings of 5% of their budget for the coming year over the following three years – and establish an independent committee, to examine its proposals and make recommendations.

Maybe don't recommend them for honours unless they find 5% savings?

Culture Secretary Lisa Nandy carrying a red ministerial folder embossed with the Crown, wearing a winter coat, in Downing Street

Government department spends £1,200 on two folders

It comes as Chancellor Rachel Reeves asks departments to highlight savings they can make in the next few years.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3vrw9pd16do

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DuncinToffee · 10/12/2024 19:18

FYI

https://bsky.app/profile/mk.gg/post/3lcxijvxeck2g

The UK parliament has joined Bluesky, with proper verified domains and everything:

• @houseofcommons.parliament.uk • @houseoflords.parliament.uk • @ukparliament.parliament.uk • @commonsspeaker.parliament.uk

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Alexandra2001 · 10/12/2024 20:57

DuncinToffee · 10/12/2024 19:29

Nothing like enough to improve retention and attract more into these professions.

Disappointing.

PickAChew · 10/12/2024 21:00

DuncinToffee · 10/12/2024 19:18

FYI

https://bsky.app/profile/mk.gg/post/3lcxijvxeck2g

The UK parliament has joined Bluesky, with proper verified domains and everything:

• @houseofcommons.parliament.uk • @houseoflords.parliament.uk • @ukparliament.parliament.uk • @commonsspeaker.parliament.uk

No Larry? Or is he, as a forward thinking feline, already there?

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Zonder · 10/12/2024 21:59

Alexandra2001 · 10/12/2024 18:42

Everyone sympathises with Pensioners, they are the "Silent Generation" & all fought in WW2.... we owe them everything.

Show quote history

Weren't there about 11 pensioners who fought in WW2 at the cenotaph this year? Not many left who actually did have anything to do with WW2.

bombastix · 10/12/2024 22:05

Today’s pensioners were young adults in the 1960s probably. The narrative is daft.

Alexandra2001 · 10/12/2024 22:18

bombastix · 10/12/2024 22:05

Today’s pensioners were young adults in the 1960s probably. The narrative is daft.

Yes my post wasn't meant to be taken seriously.

BIossomtoes · 10/12/2024 22:19

bombastix · 10/12/2024 22:05

Today’s pensioners were young adults in the 1960s probably. The narrative is daft.

Not even that. My bloke was 13 in 1970. It’s a ridiculous narrative.

Eve · 10/12/2024 22:34

I thought pensioners these days & reform members fought in the battle of the Somme!

Alexandra2001 · 10/12/2024 22:42

Eve · 10/12/2024 22:34

I thought pensioners these days & reform members fought in the battle of the Somme!

Surely that would be the "Bore" war???

Notonthestairs · 11/12/2024 08:04

DuncinToffee · 10/12/2024 09:26

Another 'man of the people' here, billionaire property tycoon and Holly Valance's husband, Nick Candy, has become Reform's treasurer.

this from Tom Peck made me chuckle a bit (yes even the dig at Starmer).
Reform too nervous to have journalists cover their new signing.

www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/reforms-revolution-begins-with-a-photocall-and-nice-gb-news-c3x7j5g7h

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DuncinToffee · 11/12/2024 09:45

If anyone wants to know more about those 2 folders in the BBC headline , here is a thread

https://bsky.app/profile/monkemma.bsky.social/post/3lczg7xqpik2q

How dare the Labour government buy their ministerial folders from ……. checks notes…….the same supplier that’s been supplying the British government since the 1800’s

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Notonthestairs · 11/12/2024 10:09

Presumably the BBC ran an identical stories when every previous administrations ordered new files.
Otherwise it might look they are desperate for anti government news.

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DuncinToffee · 11/12/2024 10:15

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/dec/11/shelter-condemns-shocking-rise-homelessness-england

Soaring private rents, rising evictions and a chronic lack of affordable social housing have led to homelessness in England increasing by 14%, research from Shelter reveals.

The charity described its latest figures as “shocking” and “astounding”. They are contained in a report that estimates that on any given night more than 354,000 people in England are homeless, which is one in 160 people. That includes 161,500 children.

Shelter said the figure had risen by 44,500 people (14%), from one in 182 people, in just one year.

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