Man United star refuses to wear rainbow shirt

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14156669/Man-United-scrap-plans-LGBT-rainbow-jacket-Noussair-Mazraoui.html

Wonder what Man U will do about this??

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It's not his faith is it? It's his prejudice. ManUtd include betfred & castillero del diablo amongst their sponsors, neither compatible with his faith.

Exactly.

You were the one who accused Muslims of being homophobic. That was your deflection. But yes, phobias don't tend to make much sense, do they....

I think anyone at their place of work should get to choose whether it's rainbows or pronouns. Forcing participation should be something we move beyond

Many actually have and indeed it is such an issue clubs have voted for gambling companies to be banned for from shirt sponsorship

but shouldn’t there also be the argument that any supporting a cause is optional the Poppy/and ribbon and this should all be optional for people to decide

indeed a footballer recently refused the Poppy as well

Coming from the one who made an Islamophobic comment, that's rich.

whatever happened to "taking the knee"?
That was a huge amount of performative bollocks that all the players HAD to do at one point.
Take it it's died out?

Well exactly! It isn't 'good for him' to be homophobic - it's disgraceful

Good for him. I have nothing against people choosing to wear rainbow clothing, but it shouldn't be a forced thing. Many people feel the rainbow flag doesn't represent them, even if they are part of the LBGT community.

It's well known that homosexuality is against Islam. A Muslim player has said he won't wear an LGBTQ jacket because his religion does not allow homosexuality.

Catholicism also doesn't allow homosexuality. Am I also Christianphobic?

Yes, I think it all should be optional. But I do think sporting companies should keep politics out of sport. I say this as someone who used to actually support pride advocacy in sports, and now realise how toxic it is. Its not so bad if its optional, but when people are forced to wear it (like the Poppy), guilted and attacked if not and have their faith attacked, that is way beyond the limit.

Bored with all of that and have moved onto something else now

Good for him.
Sick to the back teeth of it all.

Exactly

Well quite, something being against a religion does NOT make it a phobia. That's the whole entire point!

Where is the homophobia?

I have several gay friends/relations whom I love in their entirety. But I don't support Pride and I am an ardent supporter of womens rights - which includes being GC.

It has nothing to do with homophobia - you clearly don't understand the issues people have with Pride.

And aside from all that, it's also about personal autonomy for me not necessarily the Pride shirt itself - if someone tried to get me to wear a shirt supporting say, Oxfam or Shelter I wouldn't wear those either.

People should not have to subscribe to anything they don't want to just to appear superficially "on board" with whatever rhetoric is being pushed.

Why would I wear a Pride shirt when I am against men being allowed to enter women-only spaces and take part in woman's sports? Whatever the reasons for this football player refusing to wear it, they are personal to him and it's his right to say no.

I have no time for homophobia - but wearing outfits with ANY political or ideological message should not be forced on anyone.

I wouldn't wear one of those shirts, bedecked with the Trans Rights pink and blue. No wish for any harm or discrimination to befall any trans person, but would not promote a cause that supports transwomen in women's sports, rape services etc.

And that's the point - it isn't about me, or any individual views - none of us should be coerced into flag waving for a cause beyond our job description.

Is Pride sponsoring them at all, you know like to the tune of millions every time one of them dons a Pride shirt? Just wondered, because I'm sure that's what happens with the gambling firms etc.

Open to correction on the way things work of course.

The Rainbow Laces campaign is a Stonewall affiliated yearly event, so I imagine any funds flow from the FA and the clubs towards Stonewall (a multi million pound charity) rather than the other way around (whereas sponsors obviously pay the clubs huge amounts of cash for the ad space on the players’ shirts).

www.stonewall.org.uk/news/rainbow-laces-campaign-kicks-off-to-make-sport-safer-for-all

To elaborate on my above comment with an example here’s a Man United website post from 4 years ago on their Stonewall Partnership. (It costs quite a lot of dosh for a company to register with one of the two Stonewall Diversity Schemes):

www.manutd.com/en/amp/news/detail/man-utd-partners-with-stonewall-to-promote-lgbt-inclusion-101120

This isn't about homophobia or Islam

It's about FREE CHOICE

Nobody should be made to literally fly someone else's flag.

People are entitled to their own opinions and not agreeing with or not wanting to openly support same sex relationships is NOT homophobia.

Exactly. To be honest this is the type of high profile pushback that is absolutely needed. He is absolutely within his rights , if you don't want to do or wear something & it's not part of your job description then say No.
Politics & activism have no place in football or any sport.

He can do as he likes.
I can't bear this attitude that being 'diverse' means that everyone has to think alike.

My closest gay friend can't stand pride.

Indeed. And if they wish to comply with Stonewall's demands then football clubs must ensure that men are wedged into women's sport, changing rooms, showers etc and that transactivism is relentlessly promoted.

Which is why the FA have such a problem with women expecting the safety of women only football plus changing rooms / showers free from male voyeurs and flashers. 🙄

I am not sure why they have made this special decision in this case if it is contrary to their policy.