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MrsMitford3 · 04/12/2024 16:24

I have just seen that now the entire ManU team will not be wearing the jackets in solidarity with their team mate

claratheskivvy · 04/12/2024 16:24

They'd like to turn the population into The Borg if they could. Identikit drones all spouting the same rhetoric and slogans.

Tiswa · 04/12/2024 16:26

MrsMitford3 · 04/12/2024 16:24

I have just seen that now the entire ManU team will not be wearing the jackets in solidarity with their team mate

The match has already happened - the weekend just gone and tonight’s matches are the ones who are part of the campaign

for me it is the fact it is a Stonewall campaign that makes it dodgy - football should be inclusive

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INeedAnotherName · 04/12/2024 16:26

A lot of posters seem to think that LGB and the Tq+ are similar. They are not. LGB fall under sexual orientation, the trans queer fetish brigade fall under gender. Gender and sex no longer mean the same. A lot of people are now believing transpeople are the real homophobes as they prefer to "trans the gay away".

I fully support LGB. I do not support those who wish to harm gay people, women or children. It really is that simple.

TheWiseFish · 04/12/2024 16:26

MrsMitford3 · 04/12/2024 16:24

I have just seen that now the entire ManU team will not be wearing the jackets in solidarity with their team mate

Brilliant!!

MonkeyToHeaven · 04/12/2024 16:28

Tiswa · 04/12/2024 16:05

What exactly do you think Man Utd should do about it @coxesorangepippin?
it is his faith which is protected - and an Ipswich captain refused to wear the band for similar reasons.
His religious beliefs need to be respected - he isn’t saying anyone else shouldn’t simply that he won’t

It's not his faith is it? It's his prejudice. ManUtd include betfred & castillero del diablo amongst their sponsors, neither compatible with his faith.

Clarice99 · 04/12/2024 16:34

Because gay and lesbian football fans have experienced widespread abuse within the game, both as fans and players. Gay male players are largely in the closet. Gay fans (male and female) are not welcome at games. Justin Fashsnu's story looms large. There's a huge way to go.
This simply isn't true of other groups being listed here. It is a football-specific issue and it's disheartening to see so much whatabouttery on this board.

What a strange defense - gay fans are not welcome at games. How on earth do the ticket sellers and associated staff at football matches know if people are gay? Is there a compulsory sexuality disclosure before you can be admitted to the match?

TheWiseFish · 04/12/2024 16:35

MonkeyToHeaven · 04/12/2024 16:28

It's not his faith is it? It's his prejudice. ManUtd include betfred & castillero del diablo amongst their sponsors, neither compatible with his faith.

It is his choice , his perogative. He's a footballer not an activist .

IdylicDay · 04/12/2024 16:49

The great news is, the more Muslims move to the UK, the sooner the LGBTQ+ virtue signalling will be unacceptable and the quicker it will die out.
Although personally I have no problems with LGB being promoted, its the homophobic and misogynistic TQ that I have a problem with.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 04/12/2024 16:51

Clarice99 · 04/12/2024 16:34

Because gay and lesbian football fans have experienced widespread abuse within the game, both as fans and players. Gay male players are largely in the closet. Gay fans (male and female) are not welcome at games. Justin Fashsnu's story looms large. There's a huge way to go.
This simply isn't true of other groups being listed here. It is a football-specific issue and it's disheartening to see so much whatabouttery on this board.

What a strange defense - gay fans are not welcome at games. How on earth do the ticket sellers and associated staff at football matches know if people are gay? Is there a compulsory sexuality disclosure before you can be admitted to the match?

Hmm. This lesbian has been banned from watching matches until 2026 by Newcastle United after a Premiere League "investigation" into her social media posts. She had the temerity to voice her opinions about trans ideology and someone didn't like what they read.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13040209/Football-fan-banned-matches-Premier-League-conduct-four-month-stasi-probe-social-media-posts-criticising-transgender-ideology-despite-police-saying-did-not-commit-crime.html

She's taking them to court.

Football fan banned from matches after probe into social media posts

Linzi Smith, a Newcastle United supporter, was investigated by a special unit set up to expose racism in the game, after she expressed strong views on trans ideology.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13040209/Football-fan-banned-matches-Premier-League-conduct-four-month-stasi-probe-social-media-posts-criticising-transgender-ideology-despite-police-saying-did-not-commit-crime.html

Tiswa · 04/12/2024 16:51

TheWiseFish · 04/12/2024 16:35

It is his choice , his perogative. He's a footballer not an activist .

Also the shirt sponsor that he wears is a tech company - he didn’t say others shouldn’t wear it or that it shouldn’t be promoted in the grounds simply that he wouldn’t wear it - and he wears nothing in the games that link to those sponsors

Clarice99 · 04/12/2024 17:08

@MrsOvertonsWindow

Thanks for posting that link. I stand corrected. It doesn't surprise me that it's a woman who's been targeted/banned.

I'd be interested to see evidence of gay men being banned.

Skyrainlight · 04/12/2024 17:09

INeedAnotherName · 04/12/2024 16:26

A lot of posters seem to think that LGB and the Tq+ are similar. They are not. LGB fall under sexual orientation, the trans queer fetish brigade fall under gender. Gender and sex no longer mean the same. A lot of people are now believing transpeople are the real homophobes as they prefer to "trans the gay away".

I fully support LGB. I do not support those who wish to harm gay people, women or children. It really is that simple.

Unfortunately I think T are doing a lot of harm to LGB for people who can't separate the groups in their head. I fully support LGB. I used to support T until I realised how little they actually value women's rights and opinions. And of course not all trans people fall into this category but the overwhelming messages coming from the group have been intolerant, aggressive, extremist and nasty. Which is so hypocritical for those demanding everyone 'be kind' to them. I feel for the decent trans people who will be tarred with this brush by those who can't differentiate between individuals and the loudmouthed voices speaking for the community.

JohnTheRevelator · 04/12/2024 17:12

Up to him.

TheWiseFish · 04/12/2024 17:13

Skyrainlight · 04/12/2024 17:09

Unfortunately I think T are doing a lot of harm to LGB for people who can't separate the groups in their head. I fully support LGB. I used to support T until I realised how little they actually value women's rights and opinions. And of course not all trans people fall into this category but the overwhelming messages coming from the group have been intolerant, aggressive, extremist and nasty. Which is so hypocritical for those demanding everyone 'be kind' to them. I feel for the decent trans people who will be tarred with this brush by those who can't differentiate between individuals and the loudmouthed voices speaking for the community.

For me the trans feel it's acceptable to invade & infiltrate female spaces under the guise of inclusively.
However they will not lobby for their own seperate trans spaces or sports as that will invalidate them as "non women".. Nonsense ..
However the world is waking up & women will no longer give up our territory in the name of ideology

Livinginaclock · 04/12/2024 17:16

coxesorangepippin · 04/12/2024 13:10

I wouldn't wear it either
Pride is poisonous, it's anti LGB, and anti women, and harmful to children.

TheWiseFish · 04/12/2024 17:21

Livinginaclock · 04/12/2024 17:16

I wouldn't wear it either
Pride is poisonous, it's anti LGB, and anti women, and harmful to children.

100%. Well said. His choice & more will follow suit & say no.

Havalona · 04/12/2024 17:24

I thought those in the team who did wear the Pride strip looked a tad uncomfortable TBH. That was the pic in the link. Just shows everyone is entitled to their views but when they are forced upon you it becomes a problem. I doubt any of them are blatantly homophopic either, it's just like being told to wear certain shoes only at school. But they are not children, and Pride is political IMV, so it should never have happened in the first place.

Now that the first domino has fallen though.....

caringcarer · 04/12/2024 17:27

Seeingadistance · 04/12/2024 13:23

Good for him. This enforced compliance with all things LGBT/Trans/Rainbow/Pinkwashing is very troubling and sinister.

This

NotMeNoNo · 04/12/2024 17:30

All those "ally" badges/lanyards/clothes are meaningless if they are compelled. It's great that people who positively support the cause want them. But non-wearing doesn't equate to active hostility or phobia. It could be disinterest privacy, or any kind of personal conflict or religious belief.

Havalona · 04/12/2024 17:31

I'm trying to figure out what exactly he did wrong here.

Dollybantree · 04/12/2024 17:33

Good!

The quicker people stop blindly going ahead with this crap and feel able to kick back for fear of being cancelled the better.

Im so grateful to be a sahm and not have to deal with this shit in the workplace.

Im supportive of the gay community, but GC and I don't feel I should have to fly a banner for any community/charity/movement if I choose not to.

Its virtue signalling bollocks and I'm sick of having it shoved down my throat.

IkeaJesusChrist · 04/12/2024 17:35

I bet the homophobe would wear a shirt with a gambling sponsor on it.

Dreammalildream · 04/12/2024 17:37

Wow you don't have to scratch the surface too hard to find the homophobia on Mumsnet, do you?

Havalona · 04/12/2024 17:39

And MN sure doesn't have to look too far to see virtue signalling mysoginistic adult female deniers either it seems.