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Mum kept baby hidden in drawer for nearly 3 years !!

624 replies

benjaminjamesandgraham · 26/11/2024 18:44

Even Christmas day she was kept in a drawer - oh how can someone be so cruel
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gz1dv8ly2o

The drawer where the child was kept, open underneath a cream divan bed with a blanket inside showing where the girl lived for the first three years of her life.

Cheshire mother who kept her baby hidden in a drawer for three years jailed

Prosecutors say the girl had "never known daylight or fresh air" when she was found.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gz1dv8ly2o

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oakleaffy · 26/11/2024 23:08

DoreenonTill8 · 26/11/2024 23:03

The little girl we lost due to the shit show of covid would have been this vulnerable, abused little girls age so am responding in probably an emotionally unstable way, I need to disengage with this and all the 'poor mother' posts.

Exactly so- People making excuses as to why this stain on humanity could do this to this poor child.

It's inexcusable.

That's why she's in jail.

Bet she tried to make excuses though in her 'defence'.

GiddyRobin · 26/11/2024 23:09

DoreenonTill8 · 26/11/2024 23:03

The little girl we lost due to the shit show of covid would have been this vulnerable, abused little girls age so am responding in probably an emotionally unstable way, I need to disengage with this and all the 'poor mother' posts.

I'm so, so sorry. Mine would have been older by now, but I know that pain (or similar). And you've every right to feel that anger, it's not a bad anger to have. The whole scenario is repulsive. This is why I can't get involved, it's far too close to the bone. Sending you massive hugs and pints of wine/tea. ❤️ All of your points were valid. Very, very fucking valid.

Soubriquet · 26/11/2024 23:11

oakleaffy · 26/11/2024 22:49

There was a terrible programme called ''The Dying Rooms'' where baby girls were abandoned to die in China.

They were mute.
No one came to tend to them, so they learned it was pointless to even cry.

It was one of the worst documentaries I'd seen.

Little Mei Ming was silent. {Mei Ming= ''No Name''

I won't post her picture here. {It is online}

Baby boys were kept little princes.

I am horrified at this. I knew Chinese people don’t really like girls, but you would have thought an orphanage would look after these babies, and not let them starve to death

Snugglemonkey · 26/11/2024 23:13

Lifeomars · 26/11/2024 20:18

I saw this on the news, it made me cry, I really felt for the social worker who discovered it. I am sure the images of that poor child will live in their mind forever. I hope the little girl goes on to have a life that heals her from the trauma of her early years. The news report said she was in foster care. Why and how did this happen? I am guessing that the pregnancy and the birth was concealed. As for the effect on the other children, finding out you have a sibling who has been hidden and who has gone through such horrendous abuse, the vicarious trauma must be immense

Imagine knowing you were opening presents, eating cake, being celebrated, while your baby sister was in that drawer. Every memory tainted. Guilt at not saving her permeating everything. How can any of these children live normally now?

Crikeyalmighty · 26/11/2024 23:13

@ssd absolutely -

DoreenonTill8 · 26/11/2024 23:13

Thank you @GiddyRobin and @oakleaffy I've had a really hard day due to the shit show we're experiencing as nhs staff and should know by now mnet is not decompression!
I just can't understand how she could have day to day life knowing what she knew.

BellissimoGecko · 26/11/2024 23:14

This is one of the worst things I've ever read. It's shocking.

oakleaffy · 26/11/2024 23:17

DoreenonTill8 · 26/11/2024 23:13

Thank you @GiddyRobin and @oakleaffy I've had a really hard day due to the shit show we're experiencing as nhs staff and should know by now mnet is not decompression!
I just can't understand how she could have day to day life knowing what she knew.

It's a really upsetting case.
And it IS torture.

The little one couldn't even stretch her limbs in the confines of that drawer.

However- thankfully she is free now.

When you are feeling stronger, here are more details.. the hospital staff were lovely to her. ♥️

https://www.cps.gov.uk/mersey-cheshire/news/mother-jailed-hiding-her-child-drawer-three-years

Mother jailed for hiding her child in a drawer for three years | The Crown Prosecution Service

https://www.cps.gov.uk/mersey-cheshire/news/mother-jailed-hiding-her-child-drawer-three-years

GiddyRobin · 26/11/2024 23:19

DoreenonTill8 · 26/11/2024 23:13

Thank you @GiddyRobin and @oakleaffy I've had a really hard day due to the shit show we're experiencing as nhs staff and should know by now mnet is not decompression!
I just can't understand how she could have day to day life knowing what she knew.

We all do it I think, scroll for five minutes and next minute the rage sets in - this particular thread is the worst I've seen on here, though. Chilled me right down to the core, like an icy punch to the gut. In a way, I'm glad we can't understand her. I don't think I'd want to be in the head of a cold hearted monster like that.

(As an aside, today an NHS worker literally solved a life long medical problem of my son's, you're all fucking angels as far as I'm concerned.)

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 26/11/2024 23:26

DoreenonTill8 · 26/11/2024 23:08

So @Ihatelittlefriendsusan you're saying if you had a child, you'd restrict them from life, light, food, love, abandon them for days, whinge and whine that YOU are the abused and damaged one? Oh yes.. poor her

No...but I am saying I can see how the mental break of going through that could lead to it.

Are you really that devoid of humanity that you can't?

Notaurewhy · 26/11/2024 23:29

Roomgigi · 26/11/2024 21:36

I suspect there is much much more to this story than is allowed to be published
Unsure how jailing the mother helps anyone tbh

Sorry but no, when a child has been cruelly abused to this extent, there can be no option but to have a sentence. The amount of conjecture to fill the gap on journalists breaking info, the full information that the court and judge has had to hand on this thread is bonkers:

Examples being:
presumption that the
"partner" is the father
Dissociation due to various assumed factors - all of which could be very serious and would have played part in her defence but didn't as far as we know due to the fact that even given her admission of guilt she has been handed the (almost) most aggressive sentence according to the guidance
A "visitor" was not the partner or could be
Social service were "first on scene"
"Cultural identity"
PP not understanding this was a hidden birth no scans, no midwives, no registration.
Mention of a "toddler", no toddler here just an abused aged 3 child who looked more like a 7 or 8 month old (depending on what article you read).

It absolutely defies human understanding what this woman did to her child, in the same way that most of us can't understand cruelty in this way because it is so beyond our recognition.

But she did do it, whilst she worked and also had other children being part of society with apparently no other concerned parties involved, however again the only fact we have on this is that they were living with her till this discovery.

StarDolphins · 26/11/2024 23:30

oakleaffy · 26/11/2024 22:49

There was a terrible programme called ''The Dying Rooms'' where baby girls were abandoned to die in China.

They were mute.
No one came to tend to them, so they learned it was pointless to even cry.

It was one of the worst documentaries I'd seen.

Little Mei Ming was silent. {Mei Ming= ''No Name''

I won't post her picture here. {It is online}

Baby boys were kept little princes.

Oh gosh this is awful☹️ I love documentaries and I would like to watch this. But I won’t as things stay with me.

noobiedoobie · 26/11/2024 23:30

I just couldn't believe this when I read it. I feel awful for the social worker, I'm not sure you'd ever recover. And how this can happen. And the mother I just have no comprehension of. The poor, poor child. I just only hope she gets all the love, care, stability and development she needs.
She deserves every protection.

Honestandkind · 26/11/2024 23:31

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 26/11/2024 20:03

This is awful.

But I suspect there is more to the story than the beeb have reported.

It doesn't say who the father of the child is, so we can assume not her partner. If the child was the result of rape I can fully understand her detachment from the situation.

I'm not excusing her actions or neglect. But having been raped myself although lucky not to have become pregnant, I can see how this could happen.

My first thought was rape too. She was completely detached from her pregnancy and must have gone through labor alone, in secret. People don't usually do that - again I'm also not excusing the neglect at all - it's absolutely terrible.

But there's something to this case that hasn't been published

Sunflowersinwinter · 26/11/2024 23:31

ssd · 26/11/2024 23:06

There's no excuse for keeping a child in a drawer for 3 years. No excuse whatsoever. Rape, incest, abuse....still absolutely no excuse.

Utterly no excuse.

Absolutely.

macap · 26/11/2024 23:33

Should be locked up for life.

it reads as if she was perfectly capable of looking after family, just not this poor soul.

sick fuck.

Snugglemonkey · 26/11/2024 23:34

Dymaxion · 26/11/2024 21:22

No, none whatsoever. She will be severely damaged for the rest of her life.

Can I ask why ? Genuinely ? I appreciate she may need a lot of help during the rest of her childhood, but is there really no hope of her ever having a normal life ?

No. The period from birth to 3 is the single most critical developmentally and those years were totally fucked up. The child was so, so far behind. She will not even fully physically recover, never mind mentally. This child is permanently damaged and the charges simply do not reflect that. Gbh would be more appropriate. Manslaughter even. The person this child was meant to be was killed.

SquatWeightaMinute · 26/11/2024 23:34

I don’t know how people can suggest she was severely mentally ill but hid it so well that there were no concerns from her other children’s schools, from her place of work or be boyfriend or her family.

OkPedro · 26/11/2024 23:38

SquatWeightaMinute · 26/11/2024 23:34

I don’t know how people can suggest she was severely mentally ill but hid it so well that there were no concerns from her other children’s schools, from her place of work or be boyfriend or her family.

She managed to hide a child in her home from her partner and other children for 3 years!

Pamosonic · 26/11/2024 23:43

Seems to be a lot of these evil mum/step mum stories these days and these are just the stories that come out.

Honestandkind · 26/11/2024 23:46

Dymaxion · 26/11/2024 21:22

No, none whatsoever. She will be severely damaged for the rest of her life.

Can I ask why ? Genuinely ? I appreciate she may need a lot of help during the rest of her childhood, but is there really no hope of her ever having a normal life ?

If she's been deprived of language - I don't think she'll be able to talk now? Someone correct me if I'm wrong - not sure when the critical language years end

JAT49 · 26/11/2024 23:47

Stonefromthehenge · 26/11/2024 20:46

Yes, I expect behind this tragedy, is the mother's own tragic story. No-one cared enough to notice she was pregnant, had given birth, was secretive, distracted, kept shutting herself away in her bedroom. Not one relative or friend or partner noticed anything amiss with her mental health in three years?

I've said on here before, its all very well coming on here and calling the woman a monster, but all of society is culpable because we don't care until a tragedy happens, yet all around us are people who desperately need someone to care. I don't have the answer but this woman likely needed help years years if not decades ago.

Stonefromthehenge are you serious read the social worker statement there is no MH mentioned just a cruel neglectful mother

Illneverstopnamechanging89 · 27/11/2024 01:05

CheesecakeTheCapybara · 26/11/2024 20:18

Ah, so that would explain the lack of a midwife or doctor being involved at the birth. She would have had to have registered the birth though, so someone must have been aware of this child's existence? 🤔

It's pretty obvious she didnt register the baby isnt it?

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 27/11/2024 01:08

OriginalUsername2 · 26/11/2024 19:42

Horrific, but what does anyone gain from knowing this?

Well that could be said for any News story, couldn’t it.
No disrespect intended but that’s just a silly statement.

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