Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Chat

Join the discussion and chat with other Mumsnetters about everyday life, relationships and parenting.

Thread 12 Starmer: From Prescott to Rayner, working class grit

1000 replies

DuncinToffee · 21/11/2024 20:08

Previous thread

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5203242-thread-11-starmer-will-that-phone-call-be-to-harris-or-to-trump-the-decidedly-superior-looking-cats-thread?page=40&reply=139989436

OP posts:
Thread gallery
68
ilovesooty · 25/11/2024 16:13

Kemi having her own elk. That has amused me.

SerendipityJane · 25/11/2024 16:18

Reeves is taking a risk.

Who said that ? Liz Truss ? Kwasi Kwarteng ? Any one of the Tory party that didn't stop them ?

SerendipityJane · 25/11/2024 16:20

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 25/11/2024 16:09

You can seek to explain away every headline as you wish.

I cannot stress this enough however -
from where I sit - in finance - job losses are happening. Fine you say. Unfortunately, these are the broadest shoulders Reeves needs.

Dont say you weren’t warned.

I don't doubt there will be some fallout from the budget that is less than glittery.

However, if there really is a wolf coming I am rolling in hot sauce to make my old bones a tiny bit more palatable.

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 25/11/2024 16:24

SerendipityJane · 25/11/2024 16:20

I don't doubt there will be some fallout from the budget that is less than glittery.

However, if there really is a wolf coming I am rolling in hot sauce to make my old bones a tiny bit more palatable.

Fair enough if you are ‘priced’ because you are old, and it doesn’t matter.

To those with families and dependents, it matters -
acutely.

SerendipityJane · 25/11/2024 16:26

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 25/11/2024 16:24

Fair enough if you are ‘priced’ because you are old, and it doesn’t matter.

To those with families and dependents, it matters -
acutely.

And it always has.

I grew up in the 70s. Nothing has really happened so far as far as I am concerned. Let me know when unemployment breaks 3,000,000 and I'll have a reappraisal.

ContactNightmare · 25/11/2024 16:29

SerendipityJane · 25/11/2024 16:18

Reeves is taking a risk.

Who said that ? Liz Truss ? Kwasi Kwarteng ? Any one of the Tory party that didn't stop them ?

I say it! It is a risk. No one knows yet if it will pay off. It may, or may not.

Nothing to do with any Tories. They were crap on their own terms. That does not mean this budget is without risk.

SerendipityJane · 25/11/2024 16:31

ContactNightmare · 25/11/2024 16:29

I say it! It is a risk. No one knows yet if it will pay off. It may, or may not.

Nothing to do with any Tories. They were crap on their own terms. That does not mean this budget is without risk.

Well, at least the UK is quite happy taking huge risks in the pursuit of sunlit uplands. As people should remember.

ContactNightmare · 25/11/2024 16:36

Look I’m as bored as anyone of all the fulminating about this budget being Armageddon. It sounds like wealthy people who are pissed off. They will never like Reeves or the Labour Party so irrelevant in political terms.

I also think people claiming that Labour would not do radical moves or tax rises was not paying attention . There was a fair bit of discussion but not in the Tory press. You would have had to look
harder I think.

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 25/11/2024 16:56

Carol Vorderman condemns petition calling for fresh general election as it's signed by more than 2m people - then demands a 'rejoin the EU referendum' at the same time

Well, that’s us told…

SerendipityJane · 25/11/2024 16:56

ContactNightmare · 25/11/2024 16:36

Look I’m as bored as anyone of all the fulminating about this budget being Armageddon. It sounds like wealthy people who are pissed off. They will never like Reeves or the Labour Party so irrelevant in political terms.

I also think people claiming that Labour would not do radical moves or tax rises was not paying attention . There was a fair bit of discussion but not in the Tory press. You would have had to look
harder I think.

As soon as you hear Jeremy Clarkson and his new bestie Nigel Farage opining how they are protesting on behalf of the little people, you realise that this budget has scored a bullseye.

If I were Amazon, I'd be a bit pissed off with Clarkson. His currently pantomime has got a lot of really big Hollywood A listers asking their agents if Amazon aren't paying the big bucks as they have seen Clarkson on TV whining about some cattle.

Elodie09 · 25/11/2024 16:58

Do you know, I have never seen a Government in waiting do so much preparation to govern , once they were elected, as this Labour one.
I admire our PM's steadfast demeanour and am quite scared that he will say that he is fed up and give us back to Truss and her elk . Or was that Badenoch's elk?
Good posting people !
There will be adjustments, re thinking of certain policies and some u turns along the way. How is this a bad thing if it is well considered and improves things? I wish our media would get behind the UK.
Your country needs you!!

SerendipityJane · 25/11/2024 17:09

Do you know, I have never seen a Government in waiting do so much preparation to govern , once they were elected, as this Labour one.

It's a little bit of political judo, isn't it. While the Tories were providing headline after headline there was no space (or appetite) to report on the seeming trivia of Labours machinations. Which does appear to have caught them off guard and in a bit of a funk.

I think there's also some sour grapes from the media who are realising they simply cannot bully a government with this majority. Unlike the Tories who were precarious in power and no better in opposition.

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 25/11/2024 17:20

I can’t speak for the rest of the country, but London feels tired, people are worn out.

Taxed to death and beyond death, no job security, with an impossible macro environment, and a government which appears to despise anyone with aspirations at betterment.

I would advise anyone with ambition to leave - I will let them decide where to.

SerendipityJane · 25/11/2024 17:21

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 25/11/2024 17:20

I can’t speak for the rest of the country, but London feels tired, people are worn out.

Taxed to death and beyond death, no job security, with an impossible macro environment, and a government which appears to despise anyone with aspirations at betterment.

I would advise anyone with ambition to leave - I will let them decide where to.

When a person is tired of London, they are tired of life ...

Zonder · 25/11/2024 17:30

Just did my weekly dip into twitter (I'm keeping my account until everyone I want to follow makes it over to the other side) and I'm right with Carol V. Good to remind people that if we are supposed to take a petition of 2 million seriously (bots and all) then we really should expect people to take one twice that size seriously.

Thread 12 Starmer: From Prescott to Rayner, working class grit
SerendipityJane · 25/11/2024 17:39

Seems a bit of an own goal to whip up this petition which basically gives the whole nation a chance to remember the Brexit saga.

Zonder · 25/11/2024 17:41

Totally.

cakeorwine · 25/11/2024 17:43

SerendipityJane · 25/11/2024 17:39

Seems a bit of an own goal to whip up this petition which basically gives the whole nation a chance to remember the Brexit saga.

I wonder if the media will report if a new Rejoin the EU referendum goes viral and gains many signatures.

Or will there be silence?

PandoraSox · 25/11/2024 17:49

The doom-mongering is getting so tiresome. The same tropes being trotting out over and over again.

We have had 14 years of the Tories with side orders of Brexit and Pandemic and a garnish of Trussonomics, the effects of which are not going to be reversed in a few months.

SerendipityJane · 25/11/2024 17:50

cakeorwine · 25/11/2024 17:43

I wonder if the media will report if a new Rejoin the EU referendum goes viral and gains many signatures.

Or will there be silence?

The BBC completely ignored a 250,000 rejoin march in London a while back.

PandoraSox · 25/11/2024 17:51

cakeorwine · 25/11/2024 17:43

I wonder if the media will report if a new Rejoin the EU referendum goes viral and gains many signatures.

Or will there be silence?

Were there many headlines in the right wing press about the 906k signature petition in 2022 calling for a GE?

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 25/11/2024 17:52

How long will Labour need? (to fix the Tories legacy)?

Asking for a friend (well, millions of them actually).

SerendipityJane · 25/11/2024 17:52

As always, the best way to deal with naysayers is prove them wrong.

For all the bollocks being spouted, there isn't a single business owner that would sack someone or reduce their profits just to prove the Daily Mail right.

pointythings · 25/11/2024 17:52

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 25/11/2024 17:20

I can’t speak for the rest of the country, but London feels tired, people are worn out.

Taxed to death and beyond death, no job security, with an impossible macro environment, and a government which appears to despise anyone with aspirations at betterment.

I would advise anyone with ambition to leave - I will let them decide where to.

You speak for the whole of London? Wow.

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 25/11/2024 17:53

SerendipityJane · 25/11/2024 17:52

As always, the best way to deal with naysayers is prove them wrong.

For all the bollocks being spouted, there isn't a single business owner that would sack someone or reduce their profits just to prove the Daily Mail right.

Can one spout bollocks?

Dont answer that…

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is not accepting new messages.