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What is elon musk problem with Britain?

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Littlemissgobby · 21/11/2024 17:18

Why the fuck is he attacking our gov decisions like inheritance tax on farms? He seems obsessed with Britain ever since the riots . Also can you imagine if sir Allan sugar was posting stuff about American gov policy like Elon musk is.
All because he’s been summoned about disinformation on X That led to the riots.
is he just a right wing twat? He’s gonna have to pipe down if America wants us to be on their side if I was labour I would be getting so annoyed .
side note I sit left centre but Peter Mandelson licking boots of Elon and trump is a piss take.
maybe we are going to have to move closer to Europe as America is unhinged by the sounds of Elon .

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/nov/21/musk-to-summon-british-mps-to-the-us-to-explain-threats-to-american-citizens-uk-riots

Elon Musk to ‘summon MPs to US to explain threats to American citizens’

World’s richest man responds to UK parliamentarians saying they will call him to testify about X’s role in spreading disinformation during riots

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/nov/21/musk-to-summon-british-mps-to-the-us-to-explain-threats-to-american-citizens-uk-riots

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EasternStandard · 23/11/2024 11:20

But I could not vote for a party. That's willing to be nasty to other people destroying communities.

The thing is there's plenty of pp who are fine with the impact on farming, pensioners and businesses and students because it's not happening to them.

The issue for Labour is that economics will end up impacting everyone including their base ie public sector and benefits (not including pensioners).

Some will still be loyal as per mn but they really do need to not further stagnate the economy

noblegiraffe · 23/11/2024 11:25

Skipthisbit · 23/11/2024 11:13

You didn’t see the first ever rocket return from outer space and get ‘caught’.
Perhaps watch the news rather than the socials …. it’s the biggest advance in space engineering since the Apollo missions.

Yes, I did? And I've seen Falcon rockets landing on barges and staying upright and remember the multiple failed attempts.

But I'm not sure how that is relevant to the fact that Elon Musk is currently spending an inordinate amount of time posting shite on twitter.

Do you think he is designing rockets in between posting memes, or does he perhaps own massive companies who do the rocket science?

lemmysbloodyvalentine · 23/11/2024 11:32

oldwhyno · 22/11/2024 10:08

Mods, can this post be moved to the right place? Reddit

Touché 😂.

noblegiraffe · 23/11/2024 11:34

I remember Musk's published 5 and 10 year plans for Tesla, including creating high-end luxury electric vehicles and using the money from that to design cheaper and smaller ones. I've read AMAs on Reddit where he came across as interesting, if quirky and demanding. The two pronged plan to save humanity by tackling the environment and by setting up a Mars colony was fascinating.

It is immensely disappointing to see that either he has gone completely batshit with the drivel he is currently pumping out on social media, like an extremely prolific and much richer Laurence Fox, or that he was always a noxious twat but not so public.

I have seen a suggestion that he started to lose it when his child came out as trans. He describes his son as 'dead' and 'killed by the woke mind virus'.

Barbadossunset · 23/11/2024 11:44

Noblegiraffe do you agree with the op’s views that rich people should be guillotined?
I suppose it will solve once and for all the debate about the existence of private schools.

SinnerBoy · 23/11/2024 11:49

hamstersarse · Yesterday 15:01

someone posted “I don’t care if they burn the hotels down” and got 18 months in jail.

https://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2024-10-17/childminder-behind-burn-down-migrant-hotels-post-is-jailed

" She wrote: "Mass deportation now, set fire to all the f hotels full of the b* for all I care... If that makes me racist, so be it." "

Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 12:01

Barbadossunset · 23/11/2024 11:44

Noblegiraffe do you agree with the op’s views that rich people should be guillotined?
I suppose it will solve once and for all the debate about the existence of private schools.

Did I say that about now ? No I did not I was talking about the French Revolution don’t be a bad faith actor

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noblegiraffe · 23/11/2024 12:08

Barbadossunset · 23/11/2024 11:44

Noblegiraffe do you agree with the op’s views that rich people should be guillotined?
I suppose it will solve once and for all the debate about the existence of private schools.

I think it is interesting how an awful lot of anger is directed towards poor people 'on benefits' or refugees or immigrants who desperately want a better life than their current shit one, and very little anger at the obscenely wealthy who generally claim that they have 'worked hard' to be in that position but there is no amount of 'hard work' that will legitimately earn you billions.

Let's face it, we should have had a revolution by now (not saying that I want that to happen at all, because we might picture ourselves as the plucky Districts in the Hunger Games but in the global view we are absolutely the Capitol), but there is a lot of redirection of discontent going on.

One wonders if with his current display on twitter, Elon Musk is merely giving us bread and circuses to protect his own position.

TofuTart · 23/11/2024 12:23

One wonders if with his current display on twitter, Elon Musk is merely giving us bread and circuses to protect his own position

Good point, and I was thinking along the same lines the other day. Not just him, others too

Barbadossunset · 23/11/2024 13:34

Let's face it, we should have had a revolution by now (not saying that I want that to happen at all.

When you say ‘we’, do you mean UK, Europe or the Western World?
Also, what sort of revolution?
There seem to be plenty of people on here - and presumably twitter & blue sky etc but I don’t really read them - who hate the system so why aren’t they organising a revolution is there’s such a demand for it?

However, the Soviet Union may have shot the Czar and his family and a lot of other toffs and anyone who didn’t agree with them (and some that did) but as the op points out re the French Revolution, the next lot in charge weren’t great either and feathered their own nests and treated the populace brutally.
On a much smaller scale, Cuba has a very repressive regime and silences protestors and dissidents - (though the left seem to be quite tolerant of that particular dictatorship).

Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 13:37

Barbadossunset · 23/11/2024 13:34

Let's face it, we should have had a revolution by now (not saying that I want that to happen at all.

When you say ‘we’, do you mean UK, Europe or the Western World?
Also, what sort of revolution?
There seem to be plenty of people on here - and presumably twitter & blue sky etc but I don’t really read them - who hate the system so why aren’t they organising a revolution is there’s such a demand for it?

However, the Soviet Union may have shot the Czar and his family and a lot of other toffs and anyone who didn’t agree with them (and some that did) but as the op points out re the French Revolution, the next lot in charge weren’t great either and feathered their own nests and treated the populace brutally.
On a much smaller scale, Cuba has a very repressive regime and silences protestors and dissidents - (though the left seem to be quite tolerant of that particular dictatorship).

Ultimately power corrupts you are right and revolutions don’t tend to happen very much because the people can’t do as much as they can fighting against the might of the government look at China look at the freedom they are going against people in Hong Kong right now people in prison for speaking out against the authority

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Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 13:38

Barbadossunset · 23/11/2024 13:34

Let's face it, we should have had a revolution by now (not saying that I want that to happen at all.

When you say ‘we’, do you mean UK, Europe or the Western World?
Also, what sort of revolution?
There seem to be plenty of people on here - and presumably twitter & blue sky etc but I don’t really read them - who hate the system so why aren’t they organising a revolution is there’s such a demand for it?

However, the Soviet Union may have shot the Czar and his family and a lot of other toffs and anyone who didn’t agree with them (and some that did) but as the op points out re the French Revolution, the next lot in charge weren’t great either and feathered their own nests and treated the populace brutally.
On a much smaller scale, Cuba has a very repressive regime and silences protestors and dissidents - (though the left seem to be quite tolerant of that particular dictatorship).

There is a need to break the system. It’s just that so many people disagree with what and how that would be.. people on the right talk about deep state or other conspiracy theories not realising that actually the same fight as the people at the top are dividing people at the bottom to fight while everybody’s looking at each other we are not looking at the top who are robbing countries the world blind

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frenchnoodle · 23/11/2024 14:26

So op would you say you were the typical labour voter?

noblegiraffe · 23/11/2024 15:17

When you say ‘we’, do you mean UK, Europe or the Western World?

I mean the entire world, if you think about it. I guess climate change will force the issue sooner or later.

Barbadossunset · 23/11/2024 15:36

I mean the entire world, if you think about it.

Revolutions have taken place in various countries over the centuries and I’m sure they will continue to do so. However I’m not sure how an entire world revolution would happen.
I mean would there be one supreme leader in charge of the whole thing who would then delegate to leaders in every country?
What would happen if some countries refused to revolt? Would they be invaded by countries which were cooperating with the revolution?
Who would then decide who was in charge of each country post-revolution?

noblegiraffe · 23/11/2024 15:38

I'm talking about the mass migration that will occur when large swathes of the planet are rendered uninhabitable due to climate change.

Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 15:49

frenchnoodle · 23/11/2024 14:26

So op would you say you were the typical labour voter?

How can I possibly say that? Is there any typical voter I am me. I don’t follow the crowd in many ways I think my own thoughts. I just think a man like Elon influencing American politics trying to influence ours in the uk to, is the definition of deep state is the definition of these people that many people on the right have a problem with yet it’s okay when it’s on their side I don’t like hypocrites. I can’t stand people like Elon Musk so I don’t know if that means I’m a typical labour voter I am just somebody who could never ever in the month for Sundays ever vote Conservative just on principle of the fact that I believe in a fair society I don’t believe that labour is perfect not at all. I think they have got a lot of issues, but I could never vote for the other side.

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Barbadossunset · 23/11/2024 15:53

noblegiraffe · Today 15:38

I'm talking about the mass migration that will occur when large swathes of the planet are rendered uninhabitable due to climate change

Yes well then revolution will happen. I wonder when though - in 50 years time? 100 years? 500 years?

noblegiraffe · 23/11/2024 15:58

Barbadossunset · 23/11/2024 15:53

noblegiraffe · Today 15:38

I'm talking about the mass migration that will occur when large swathes of the planet are rendered uninhabitable due to climate change

Yes well then revolution will happen. I wonder when though - in 50 years time? 100 years? 500 years?

I don't know, but along with our collapsing birth rates it seems we are headed for interesting times.

RedToothBrush · 23/11/2024 17:27

The two pronged plan to save humanity by tackling the environment and by setting up a Mars colony was fascinating.

I find the lack biological considerations of humans interesting too.

Human development is based on the gravity on earth. What happens to a fetus and child that grows up with radically different gravity? We know that the effects on the human body in space are considerable. We know that DNA has been altered by time in space (twin experiment with an astronaut with an identical twin who didn't go to space). Even the act of concept may be affected - will sperm swim as well in different gravitational conditions.

We can't do experiments on these things yet. And they may all impact on the viability of a successful long term Martian colony, which is self sufficient from earth.

Alphaalga · 23/11/2024 19:49

AlisonDonut · 23/11/2024 10:04

Well no you seem to be advocating to kill people you don't agree with.

Don't be a donut Alison. You attempted to manipulate semantics and make a dash for the moral high ground re the French Revolution, which happened in the 18th century at a time when poor people were being executed by the state for nicking loaves of bread.

Even the BBC produced a docu-drama not too long ago in an attempt to justify the British Army having its own soldiers executed by firing squad for cowardice in WW1, the first of two wars which pretty much every Brit and their dog will proudly proclaim as victories for humanity to this day.

So don't be trying to level accusations of blood-lust at people who are merely mirroring sentiments of historical events which led to unfortunate tit-for-tat escalation just because you disagree with their sense of justice.

AlisonDonut · 23/11/2024 20:34

Alphaalga · 23/11/2024 19:49

Don't be a donut Alison. You attempted to manipulate semantics and make a dash for the moral high ground re the French Revolution, which happened in the 18th century at a time when poor people were being executed by the state for nicking loaves of bread.

Even the BBC produced a docu-drama not too long ago in an attempt to justify the British Army having its own soldiers executed by firing squad for cowardice in WW1, the first of two wars which pretty much every Brit and their dog will proudly proclaim as victories for humanity to this day.

So don't be trying to level accusations of blood-lust at people who are merely mirroring sentiments of historical events which led to unfortunate tit-for-tat escalation just because you disagree with their sense of justice.

Manipulating semantics by...quoting the OP?

Yup. I quoted the OP.

Alphaalga · 23/11/2024 22:21

Manipulating semantics by...quoting misrepresenting the OP?

Yup. I quoted misrepresented the OP.

Yup.

GoodGollyMsMolly · 24/11/2024 00:54

Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 09:36

Ah you are one of those totally disagree with you. When you talk about ideology, try looking at what the last fourteen years of conservatives did, because they tried the culture war b pande, to them, b that think immigrants are disgusting.
I actually, if you want my opinion would get rid of every private school and they will raise some money and it will go back to state school and maybe it's more about the principle of the fat that in this country, the shoulder of responsibility needs to go on the rich people and those with a bit more. Money than everybody else, because if you can afford to send your child to private school. Even with all the little, oh my god, I can't afford much.You obviously can looking at some of the fees.

You sound like a rich hating and angry person. Take a chill pill, OP.

Begsthequestion · 24/11/2024 02:55

GoodGollyMsMolly · 24/11/2024 00:54

You sound like a rich hating and angry person. Take a chill pill, OP.

I don't think it's hatred. More like disapproval.

What do you think you sound like?