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What is elon musk problem with Britain?

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Littlemissgobby · 21/11/2024 17:18

Why the fuck is he attacking our gov decisions like inheritance tax on farms? He seems obsessed with Britain ever since the riots . Also can you imagine if sir Allan sugar was posting stuff about American gov policy like Elon musk is.
All because he’s been summoned about disinformation on X That led to the riots.
is he just a right wing twat? He’s gonna have to pipe down if America wants us to be on their side if I was labour I would be getting so annoyed .
side note I sit left centre but Peter Mandelson licking boots of Elon and trump is a piss take.
maybe we are going to have to move closer to Europe as America is unhinged by the sounds of Elon .

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/nov/21/musk-to-summon-british-mps-to-the-us-to-explain-threats-to-american-citizens-uk-riots

Elon Musk to ‘summon MPs to US to explain threats to American citizens’

World’s richest man responds to UK parliamentarians saying they will call him to testify about X’s role in spreading disinformation during riots

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/nov/21/musk-to-summon-british-mps-to-the-us-to-explain-threats-to-american-citizens-uk-riots

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EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 23/11/2024 09:47

Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 09:39

I watched Napoleon film the other day. I'm the sort of person that believes they were. The french were right with the guillotine situation. But then what happened was it led to a power vacuum and greedy people just came in top because that's what humans tend to be greedy a.
I look at the fact the our monarch has just cost this country. 72 million pounds for his coronation. Personally, I think labour needs to be making sure. The Crown estate is paying tax. According to the recent documentary and channel four, they are not.
Then I look somebody like elon musk who this is about, a bloodied billionaire, nobody would ever be able to spend that in the whole life. Is he trying to help other people? Is he trying to stamp out world famine or anything like that? No, not a Dickie bird, and you know what? It's the same as that Amazon guy as well. I generally don't understand how people like that.Don't give a s
about other people

So, you see bloody revolution as the answer?

Speaking of your reference to humans propensity for greed, may I recommend
Leviathan by Thomas Hobbes, from the mid-17th century. One of the key themes, covers the The state of nature.

Hobbes describes the state of nature as a state of war, where there are no rules of right and wrong, and people are driven by self-interest. He believed that life in this state was "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short".

If you look round the world at the moment, some of it may look familiar.

Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 09:47

AlisonDonut · 23/11/2024 09:45

The french were right with the guillotine situation

Yeah this is exactly the sort of person who supports the modern Labour party.

Killing the people you don't like is basically fascism.

Do you ever know anything about history? How the poor people in French were literally starving yet, the people at the top were happy to have massive banquets and at the expense of the poor people dying and starving. Do you know what I just watched a documentary yesterday in Hong Kong, where rich b* are living. A great life Yet the poorest in hong kong, illiving coffin homes, literally as big as you could sit up, you can't even stand up in their little cages.
To me, I feel the injustice of this. The horrible, the fact I give a s about other people. Maybe the rich b* don't give a s** and people like Elon Musk probably don't even see poor people as people.
And that is greedy, selfish, and I don't understand it, and if it took for us to destroy the people at the top. Then fine, but unfortunately, it leaves a power vacuum

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Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 09:50

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 23/11/2024 09:47

So, you see bloody revolution as the answer?

Speaking of your reference to humans propensity for greed, may I recommend
Leviathan by Thomas Hobbes, from the mid-17th century. One of the key themes, covers the The state of nature.

Hobbes describes the state of nature as a state of war, where there are no rules of right and wrong, and people are driven by self-interest. He believed that life in this state was "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short".

If you look round the world at the moment, some of it may look familiar.

Fueled in part, because right now, in the world, we have a rich versus poor mentality, and the wealth gap is getting bigger
Countries are trying to sort it out, but it needs massive amount of people to get together. The fact remains, if all the people in Hong Kong, all them, poor people rose up and yeah, maybe did a revolution. I'm telling you, now, they couldn't kill every one of them, and maybe the rich fear that and maybe they should fear that Maybe they should start spreading. The wealth out better.
And yes, to the answer, I am a revolutionist, I don't believe we go far enough.I would destroy a lot of the things at the top

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PandoraSox · 23/11/2024 09:50

DiggetyDog · 23/11/2024 09:40

No idea. I’m usually a good judge of character though,
Boris Johnson was openly a twat, he puts on a buffoonish air but with everything he wrote and said it was very clear who he was.
Starmer is different. He’s very much a closed book with an image he’s careful to uphold, but there’s hidden stuff, beyond the gifts fiasco. Obviously this is gut feeling and I’d be very happy to be wrong. Time will tell I suppose.

but there’s hidden stuff, beyond the gifts fiasco

What hidden stuff?

AlisonDonut · 23/11/2024 09:52

Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 09:47

Do you ever know anything about history? How the poor people in French were literally starving yet, the people at the top were happy to have massive banquets and at the expense of the poor people dying and starving. Do you know what I just watched a documentary yesterday in Hong Kong, where rich b* are living. A great life Yet the poorest in hong kong, illiving coffin homes, literally as big as you could sit up, you can't even stand up in their little cages.
To me, I feel the injustice of this. The horrible, the fact I give a s about other people. Maybe the rich b* don't give a s** and people like Elon Musk probably don't even see poor people as people.
And that is greedy, selfish, and I don't understand it, and if it took for us to destroy the people at the top. Then fine, but unfortunately, it leaves a power vacuum

Yes I am related to a poor person who got into the French Aristocracy and was guillotined. I know perfectly well what happened.

But you are the kinder gentler kind of Labour Party supporter right.

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 23/11/2024 09:56

Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 09:50

Fueled in part, because right now, in the world, we have a rich versus poor mentality, and the wealth gap is getting bigger
Countries are trying to sort it out, but it needs massive amount of people to get together. The fact remains, if all the people in Hong Kong, all them, poor people rose up and yeah, maybe did a revolution. I'm telling you, now, they couldn't kill every one of them, and maybe the rich fear that and maybe they should fear that Maybe they should start spreading. The wealth out better.
And yes, to the answer, I am a revolutionist, I don't believe we go far enough.I would destroy a lot of the things at the top

I disagree with your assertion of rich vs poor - that’s your construct.

I posit that the majority merely desire an acceptable standard of living predicated on what they are prepared to do for it, ie. Academic effort, career planning, appetite for risk and entrepreneurship.

If you want anarchy, then you are no better than those who rioted during the summer.

Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 09:58

AlisonDonut · 23/11/2024 09:52

Yes I am related to a poor person who got into the French Aristocracy and was guillotined. I know perfectly well what happened.

But you are the kinder gentler kind of Labour Party supporter right.

Why are people obsessed with kind Politics, revolutionary and even other things are not kind where I am is I. Defend minorities and people who are downtrodden by people that have power do not confuse that with people being kind.I am kind to those who need it, and not kind to those who don't

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Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 10:00

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 23/11/2024 09:56

I disagree with your assertion of rich vs poor - that’s your construct.

I posit that the majority merely desire an acceptable standard of living predicated on what they are prepared to do for it, ie. Academic effort, career planning, appetite for risk and entrepreneurship.

If you want anarchy, then you are no better than those who rioted during the summer.

I tell you what go watch The Documentary. I watched about hong kong.Them people are working really hard, really tough conditions.They deserve better than bloody coffin homes. People like you will try to say that people that are rich have worked harder. That is a b rhetoric, because there are people out there. Working 3 jobs who will never ever gonna make that same money? It's b, we all know it's b*, so let's not stop pretending a lot of it is luck a lot of it comes down to how your family had money or Other reasons.

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Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 10:02

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 23/11/2024 09:56

I disagree with your assertion of rich vs poor - that’s your construct.

I posit that the majority merely desire an acceptable standard of living predicated on what they are prepared to do for it, ie. Academic effort, career planning, appetite for risk and entrepreneurship.

If you want anarchy, then you are no better than those who rioted during the summer.

I do not want anarchy. I want fairness. I want people who have money to start treating other people like they are human beings to start understanding that it's really interesting how the conservatives said to labour. You are only doing that against farmers, because they don't vote for you. It's precisely what the conservatives were doing to the poor people they did not vote for them. Or even the young people normally don't vote for conservatives, which is why the policies was against them.
I understand you will never ever get fairness completely, but going back to Elon Musk, which is what this post is about that dude is a billionaire and you are not addressing my point here. he is not even trying to help anybody that could really benefit so like world hunger or even trying to spread a little bit. Of wealth away. When he's never gonna spend all that money at some point.You've got to live with yourself

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DiggetyDog · 23/11/2024 10:03

Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 09:18

Unfortunately, you may not be a fan. I don't know, maybe you are, but you are falling for this s** rhetoric. That actually has been pushed by the right-wing Nigel. Farage actually has an MP right now who battered a woman, yet he will claim the immigrants are dangerous to women.
The problem is, we have A Generation of people that vote that do not have any critical thinking about them. If you had critical thinking you would see that the Republican party aka, even the reform party in this country, a f* playing people and telling them what they want to hear and they don't have any answers, in fact, there are a lot of buyer's remorse now. Because republican voters didn't realize some of them that the health care that they need is going to be decimated by donald trump, because they didn't realize that the affordable care act, aka obama care was the same thing.
So to me, that shows. That people are a little bit daft and not realizing what they are voting for people want some sort of miracle, the fact is, if you have a ship going down the sea, it will take ages to turn that big ship around. The Tories got 14 years because we've got such a massive righf wing press and to take it back to Twitter, people like Elon Musk, influencing people where there is hardly any press or influence from the left if you look at readership. Etc.. They get off with so much stuff yet labour have to be so much higher, as I say, with the big ship, it's going to take a long time to get back to where we was and I think they are trying a lot of the weeping and wailing is coming because they are criticising those with money. t's ridiculous, and if people can't see that, then i'm sorry for them.

I’m currently apolitical.
I have no agenda, I’m just bemusedly observing the political goings on.
I don’t like anything in politics right now, it’s all a shitshow.
Whoever we had in power right now will not be good enough because this political system is no longer working. Look at any public sector organisation - all drenched in poor management and failing and has been for years now.

Starmer will not last. It might feel like he can turn this ship, but the direction he wants to take it is straight over a big waterfall. Not that the Tories would do any better.

We need something different. I don’t know what, there are currently no options available that will do what needs to be done.

Politicians full stop are corrupt and not fit for purpose, it doesn’t make a difference if they’re left or right. The left focus on the poor but forget that they rely on the wealthy to pay taxes and are alienating them with decisions they’re making. The right focus on the wealthy but forget that the poor need support.

Surely a mark of a decent society is that people can be inspired to work together and come up with solutions, compromise, and a sense of solidarity. Currently no one in government is capable of doing this.

Meanwhile the living experience of people in the UK is not improving, the right pick holes with the left and pretends to be the best mates of the working class, the left insults anyone who doesn’t agree with their narrow minded view, pushing people to the right, and the world of politics is pushed further and further apart into a big polarised mess.

I understand what you’re saying, but respectfully my view from several years of observation is that the left is no better than the right, and neither seems capable of leading a country into better times.

DiggetyDog · 23/11/2024 10:04

PandoraSox · 23/11/2024 09:50

but there’s hidden stuff, beyond the gifts fiasco

What hidden stuff?

I don’t know, because it’s hidden 😬
This is just my impression of him, his body language, his vibe. I may be wrong, I hope I’m wrong.

AlisonDonut · 23/11/2024 10:04

Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 09:58

Why are people obsessed with kind Politics, revolutionary and even other things are not kind where I am is I. Defend minorities and people who are downtrodden by people that have power do not confuse that with people being kind.I am kind to those who need it, and not kind to those who don't

Well no you seem to be advocating to kill people you don't agree with.

PandoraSox · 23/11/2024 10:05

Slightly back on track, I wonder what part X has played in this, spreading hate and the publication of people's private details?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/nov/23/anti-racism-talks-cancelled-amid-threat-of-far-right

Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 10:06

DiggetyDog · 23/11/2024 10:03

I’m currently apolitical.
I have no agenda, I’m just bemusedly observing the political goings on.
I don’t like anything in politics right now, it’s all a shitshow.
Whoever we had in power right now will not be good enough because this political system is no longer working. Look at any public sector organisation - all drenched in poor management and failing and has been for years now.

Starmer will not last. It might feel like he can turn this ship, but the direction he wants to take it is straight over a big waterfall. Not that the Tories would do any better.

We need something different. I don’t know what, there are currently no options available that will do what needs to be done.

Politicians full stop are corrupt and not fit for purpose, it doesn’t make a difference if they’re left or right. The left focus on the poor but forget that they rely on the wealthy to pay taxes and are alienating them with decisions they’re making. The right focus on the wealthy but forget that the poor need support.

Surely a mark of a decent society is that people can be inspired to work together and come up with solutions, compromise, and a sense of solidarity. Currently no one in government is capable of doing this.

Meanwhile the living experience of people in the UK is not improving, the right pick holes with the left and pretends to be the best mates of the working class, the left insults anyone who doesn’t agree with their narrow minded view, pushing people to the right, and the world of politics is pushed further and further apart into a big polarised mess.

I understand what you’re saying, but respectfully my view from several years of observation is that the left is no better than the right, and neither seems capable of leading a country into better times.

Because you've got it wrong. The left haven't even been in power for the last 14 years. You have actually had majority of your life in the conservatives because the left haven't even been in power over generations, much. The last time anything was Tony Blair and actually I am 44. I remember it was a lot better under him. Things were working, so people say the left isn't doing this. All the left isn't doing that.The left isn't even in power that much

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PandoraSox · 23/11/2024 10:07

DiggetyDog · 23/11/2024 10:04

I don’t know, because it’s hidden 😬
This is just my impression of him, his body language, his vibe. I may be wrong, I hope I’m wrong.

But you must have an idea of what terrible things you think he is hiding?

AlisonDonut · 23/11/2024 10:07

PandoraSox · 23/11/2024 10:05

Slightly back on track, I wonder what part X has played in this, spreading hate and the publication of people's private details?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/nov/23/anti-racism-talks-cancelled-amid-threat-of-far-right

The discussion about what sort of people are advocating to kill other people, is bang on target. If it's the right people it would seem.

EasternStandard · 23/11/2024 10:07

AlisonDonut · 23/11/2024 09:45

The french were right with the guillotine situation

Yeah this is exactly the sort of person who supports the modern Labour party.

Killing the people you don't like is basically fascism.

Yeh. This won't help

Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 10:08

PandoraSox · 23/11/2024 10:07

But you must have an idea of what terrible things you think he is hiding?

It's somebody that's been influenced. They don't think they have what they have. By all this s*** right-wing press and all the social media put out by reform, which, by the way, I did actually read something in by line times that suggested that the Russian bots have really pumped before our election. Social media, full of reform stuff compared to the other parties

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PandoraSox · 23/11/2024 10:09

AlisonDonut · 23/11/2024 10:07

The discussion about what sort of people are advocating to kill other people, is bang on target. If it's the right people it would seem.

I haven't advocated killing any one! I am not a fan of violent revolutions, they just entail more suffering for the poor.

KillerTomato7 · 23/11/2024 10:09

His problem is that he is a high iq individual who is gifted in certain limited fields, but is otherwise an emotionally unstable man-child with no critical reasoning skills.

Just within the past year, he has managed to regurgitate at least one comment from (nearly) every conspiracy theorist on the internet.

Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 10:10

PandoraSox · 23/11/2024 10:05

Slightly back on track, I wonder what part X has played in this, spreading hate and the publication of people's private details?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/nov/23/anti-racism-talks-cancelled-amid-threat-of-far-right

As we all know freedom of speech is code for their speech only. Why are book shops capitulation to the far right who most probably don't read books

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AdviceNeeded2024 · 23/11/2024 10:10

@Littlemissgobby Elon Musk donated £7billion to charity over 2021 and 2022. He has a foundation of which 5% of all his shares etc go to. Yes he still has a lot of money and it could help a lot of people but the fact is why should he be responsible for the entire world out of his own personal bank account?

Not everyone can earn the same or have the same wealth, usually pay reflects responsibility.

A better start would be less corruption and self-serving in governments across the world to make a better life for people.

Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 10:13

AdviceNeeded2024 · 23/11/2024 10:10

@Littlemissgobby Elon Musk donated £7billion to charity over 2021 and 2022. He has a foundation of which 5% of all his shares etc go to. Yes he still has a lot of money and it could help a lot of people but the fact is why should he be responsible for the entire world out of his own personal bank account?

Not everyone can earn the same or have the same wealth, usually pay reflects responsibility.

A better start would be less corruption and self-serving in governments across the world to make a better life for people.

Look at what bill gates has done he's really given lots away i woukd want to see what charity he's given money to. He's a right wing prick who doesn't believe in regulations which you know protect people lfrom poison, etcetra from factories in the environment.

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DiggetyDog · 23/11/2024 10:14

Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 10:06

Because you've got it wrong. The left haven't even been in power for the last 14 years. You have actually had majority of your life in the conservatives because the left haven't even been in power over generations, much. The last time anything was Tony Blair and actually I am 44. I remember it was a lot better under him. Things were working, so people say the left isn't doing this. All the left isn't doing that.The left isn't even in power that much

So I’m wrong. I’m fine with that and I don’t need you to agree with me.

I don’t think I’m wrong though. It feels fairly obvious that there’s a change coming.

On the 19th for the first time in British history our farmers organised together in their thousands. That’s huge. I don’t think most people realise how big that is.

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