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Blue badge rules

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Wishingplenty · 15/11/2024 19:26

So if a blue badge holder drives to a location and parks only where a blue badge holder is allowed to park. Then let's someone else out of the car and waits for them, is this technically breaking blue badge rules because they are not the ones doing the walking but the able bodied person is?

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JetskiSkyJumper · 16/11/2024 13:01

MontyDonsBlueScarf · 16/11/2024 12:45

@JetskiSkyJumper the point that I'm trying to make is that the rule is not that the non disabled person must not gain an advantage. It is that the badge holder must not use the badge to give them an advantage. Essentially it's about cause and effect rather than just effect.

There are two questions. a) how did the badge holder use the badge and b) did a non disabled person gain an advantage. You have to consider both of them.

That makes no sense to me because if the disabled person isn't getting out of the car, but the other person does, then the non disabled person is always getting an advantage.

Someone needs to get some gov clarification on this so we can stop disagreeing about it on mumsnet and have a final answer 😂

JetskiSkyJumper · 16/11/2024 13:03

Guidance also states

'It’s a criminal offence to misuse a badge. This includes people other than the badge holder taking advantage of the parking concessions provided under the scheme'

if the disabled person is in the car and the non disabled person gets out, the non disabled person is taking advantage of the parking concessions provided.

THisbackwithavengeance · 16/11/2024 13:18

Love a good blue badge thread.

People taking class A drugs, or committing large scale benefit fraud barely raises an eyebrow on here but possibly misusing a blue badge or even worse a disabled toilet and it's akin to murder.

Of course blue badges are misused. But posters saying they literally can't get food because of all the fraudsters apparently clogging up the spaces is a bit extreme. Why wouldn't you order online if you can't get out the car?

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LadyKenya · 16/11/2024 13:25

For some people, if they are not able to access a BB space, it could literally mean that they have to turn around, and go home. They could have been going out, for ingredients for their dinner that night, and be unable to get them, due to not being able to park.

MontyDonsBlueScarf · 16/11/2024 13:52

@JetskiSkyJumper if the disabled person is in the car and the non disabled person gets out, the non disabled person is taking advantage of the parking concessions provided.

There's a subtle difference between taking advantage of something and gaining an advantage from it.

Someone needs to get some gov clarification on this so we can stop disagreeing about it on mumsnet and have a final answer 😂

You're so right! But I don't think we'll get this unless there's a court judgement on someone not getting out of the car. The government had the option to keep it really simple in the first place but they didn't. That to my mind means it probably isn't as simple as some people think it is.

Maybe we could get more clarity by posting this in Pedants' Corner, where posters are usually genuinely curious about what something means and don't normally have any skin in the game.....😁😁

Wishingplenty · 16/11/2024 13:58

I often find that the blue badge holders themselves often start the attitude and the aggression for reasons that are truly baffling.

This is the reason I started this thread because a blue badge user is continually trying to provoke an argument while I have a permit to park where I do. The blue badge holder still gets their space, so not effecting them negatively. But still the shouting and stick waving continues. It suddenly occurred to me that this person does not always get out of their car, but uses the space to send others while she waits. She even had the audacity to point and moan just only yesterday in my direction, while she sat in the car and waited. Basically had she not acted this way towards me, I probably wouldn't of taken the time notice her rule bending, but there we are, she obviously feels perfectly entitled to do what she does, so confident in fact she berats others while doing so!

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IHateWasps · 16/11/2024 13:59

A Blue Badge should not be used to park in a restricted area if the badge holder is not leaving the car.

Scotland but the Scottish Government says this.

And the English CAB site says this.

You can still get a parking fine when you're using your badge.
If you misuse your badge on purpose you could be fined up to £1000, for example if you:

  • give it to someone else to use
  • keep using your badge when you no longer need it
  • use your badge to park if you’re just waiting, and don't plan to leave your car
Personally I think it couldn’t be much clearer on all 3 sites that have been linked to on this thread.
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