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Blue badge rules

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Wishingplenty · 15/11/2024 19:26

So if a blue badge holder drives to a location and parks only where a blue badge holder is allowed to park. Then let's someone else out of the car and waits for them, is this technically breaking blue badge rules because they are not the ones doing the walking but the able bodied person is?

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MontyDonsBlueScarf · 15/11/2024 23:40

@VegTrug sadly, it's perfectly possible for a blue badge holder not to know whether they're able to get out of the car until they actually try it.

I'd be interested to see exactly what's written in your blue badge booklet because I think you must be misinterpreting it.

GreenTeaLikesMe · 15/11/2024 23:43

Babush · 15/11/2024 20:15

There aren’t many perks to being disabled and I think some disabled people like to be able to help family members out with things like parking for trips to the hospital. My MIL relies on us for so many things she enjoys being able to offer to help with something.

Sorry, but that really is not acceptable. Congestion, traffic and parking pressure cause serious issues for others. it is not OK to start adding extra pressure to our streets because “it makes Aunt Marge feel happy”:or whatever.

redalex261 · 15/11/2024 23:46

@LastTimeLosingIt is right. The whole scheme needs bonfiring and redone. It needs to be a points on licence issue if abused. Genuinely disabled badge holders who actually need to physically get in/out of vehicle can almost never get a space as it's not viewed as a big deal by the public. The worst are disabled drivers dropping others off and not exiting car or those gaily driving round with their granny's badge. Let's not go there with the fake badges or no badges....

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XenoBitch · 16/11/2024 00:38

From the Gov website.... "You should not use the badge to allow non-disabled people to take advantage of the benefits while you sit in the car"

JetskiSkyJumper · 16/11/2024 00:51

redalex261 · 15/11/2024 23:46

@LastTimeLosingIt is right. The whole scheme needs bonfiring and redone. It needs to be a points on licence issue if abused. Genuinely disabled badge holders who actually need to physically get in/out of vehicle can almost never get a space as it's not viewed as a big deal by the public. The worst are disabled drivers dropping others off and not exiting car or those gaily driving round with their granny's badge. Let's not go there with the fake badges or no badges....

How would that work if the bb holder doesn't drive?

Jeckyl · 16/11/2024 03:17

Babush · 15/11/2024 23:40

Exactly. I am not forcing my MIL to have a jolly to the hospital. She wants to do it. She is self motivated to do it. She enjoys doing it.

You cannot be fucking serious. Your MIL’s situation is completely different; she knows from the minute she sets off she’s not going to be getting out of the car. Her enjoyment of the journey is completely irrelevant.

Everything you’ve described on this thread about your MIL taking your DH to the hospital has been nothing short of total abuse of the system and I’m baffled by how staggeringly obtuse you are about it. I give up.

Normallynumb · 16/11/2024 03:36

@Babush
You're being ridiculously defensive!
If MiL does not plan on getting out of the car but just going on a " joyride" you do not need nor should you use the blue badge
It used to be that someone running an errand for the disabled person could use the badge,but the rules were tightened up years ago
I have held a blue badge for 40 years

VegTrug · 16/11/2024 03:36

MontyDonsBlueScarf · 15/11/2024 23:40

@VegTrug sadly, it's perfectly possible for a blue badge holder not to know whether they're able to get out of the car until they actually try it.

I'd be interested to see exactly what's written in your blue badge booklet because I think you must be misinterpreting it.

I'm not misinterpreting anything love! It quite clearly states that if the disabled person is not exiting the vehicle then the badge cannot be used. Simple. Sorry

GreenTeaLikesMe · 16/11/2024 05:53

Blue badge stuff by its name needs to limited to means-tested cases. If we start developing "be kind!" syndrome and allowing the blue badge to be used for more and more and more scenarios ("It makes MIL happy!"), it ends up harming those who really do need to be prioritized for scarse spaces.

Sirzy · 16/11/2024 06:12

Babush · 15/11/2024 22:51

I’m assuming we don’t want a situation where disabled people are forced to leave their cars even if not well enough to do so.

if they aren’t going to leave the car they don’t park in a disabled space.

You can come up with as many convoluted ways to try to justify it but you are in the wrong. People like you make life harder for blue badge holders.

K0OLA1D · 16/11/2024 06:17

redalex261 · 15/11/2024 23:46

@LastTimeLosingIt is right. The whole scheme needs bonfiring and redone. It needs to be a points on licence issue if abused. Genuinely disabled badge holders who actually need to physically get in/out of vehicle can almost never get a space as it's not viewed as a big deal by the public. The worst are disabled drivers dropping others off and not exiting car or those gaily driving round with their granny's badge. Let's not go there with the fake badges or no badges....

Points on who's license?

Pumpkincozynights · 16/11/2024 06:50

I agree that the whole system needs revamping.
We constantly get blue badge holders parking across our work permit holders only parking bay. Every single day.
They seam to think that possessing a blue badge entitles them to deprive others of being able to park in clearly marked out permit holder only spaces. Seriously would you park across someone’s drive? Well obviously these people would.

MontyDonsBlueScarf · 16/11/2024 09:16

@VegTrug It quite clearly states that if the disabled person is not exiting the vehicle then the badge cannot be used. Simple.

That's great! If it's that clear perhaps you could post it on here and end the debate once and for all. I was going by what the government guidance here https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-blue-badge-scheme-rights-and-responsibilities-in-england/the-blue-badge-scheme-rights-and-responsibilities-in-england which doesn't say anything about getting out of the car, but I'm very happy to consider any other official information that i don't currently have.

The Blue Badge scheme: rights and responsibilities in England

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-blue-badge-scheme-rights-and-responsibilities-in-england/the-blue-badge-scheme-rights-and-responsibilities-in-england

LadyKenya · 16/11/2024 09:26

I don't know. The brass neck of some people is astonishing. I am not going to waste time with the back, and forth going on. The posters who are saying that the BB system needs to be reformed, I think that it works perfectly well. It is down to individuals to not misuse the badge. No system is going to be free from people choosing to do so. Maybe the lack of traffic wardens doing checks is an issue, as well. I very rarely see any. It should not be down to members of the public to police these things.

Jifmicroliquid · 16/11/2024 09:29

The poster whose MIL abuses her blue badge- she ought to have it taken off her.
Try and justify it all you like but she’s breaking the rules of having one.

LlynTegid · 16/11/2024 09:32

I advocate that the driving theory test should be retaken at regular intervals and now think blue badge rules should be covered in it.

LlynTegid · 16/11/2024 09:33

Abuse of blue badges should lead to court cases and if guilty points on your licence

LadyKenya · 16/11/2024 09:35

People are given a book with the BB, which sets out in plain English what the purpose of it is, who it is for, and how it should, and should not be used. People will do as they wish, if they have the will. As another poster consistently has pointed out, it would be hard to prove.

Bumpitybumper · 16/11/2024 09:42

Babush · 15/11/2024 21:19

I don’t really care if it’s technically a misuse. I think it’s impossible to prove one way or the other. Maybe we’re taking MIL for lunch or another appointment and this is just a stop on the way. It’s pretty stressful trying to hold down a full time job, manage a chronic condition and multiple hospital appointments. Being able to actually park at the hospital makes a huge amount of difference.

This is breathtakingly selfish!

Hospitals by their nature are full of people with health conditions that impact on their life. The ones without a Blue Badge will all find it just as difficult as you to park. Why do you think you should be able to park on double yellows when everyone else can't? Your DH doesn't even sound as impacted by his disability as many other people would be with their conditions. The fact you're willing to jeopardize your MIL's badge because you don't want to pay for a taxi or look for a space like everyone else is disgusting. Shame on you!

LadyKenya · 16/11/2024 09:52

Your DH doesn't even sound as impacted by his disability as many other people would be with their conditions. The fact you're willing to jeopardize your MIL's badge because you don't want to pay for a taxi or look for a space like everyone else is disgusting. Shame on you!

The issue is, that the Mil thinks that she is being helpful, which it obviously is for that posters Husband. He maybe should think about reapplying for his own BB.

RedHelenB · 16/11/2024 09:53

Babush · 15/11/2024 21:09

She does stay in the car but we park on double yellows near the hospital not in a disabled space so it’s not disadvantaging another disabled person.

There's a reason there's double yellows there though, so you are also making life more difficult for everyone.

K0OLA1D · 16/11/2024 11:07

LlynTegid · 16/11/2024 09:33

Abuse of blue badges should lead to court cases and if guilty points on your licence

Again though, whose licence?

JetskiSkyJumper · 16/11/2024 11:21

MontyDonsBlueScarf · 16/11/2024 09:16

@VegTrug It quite clearly states that if the disabled person is not exiting the vehicle then the badge cannot be used. Simple.

That's great! If it's that clear perhaps you could post it on here and end the debate once and for all. I was going by what the government guidance here https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-blue-badge-scheme-rights-and-responsibilities-in-england/the-blue-badge-scheme-rights-and-responsibilities-in-england which doesn't say anything about getting out of the car, but I'm very happy to consider any other official information that i don't currently have.

The guidance you posted literally says

'You should not use the badge to allow non-disabled people to take advantage of the benefits while you sit in the car.'

That's what this post is about. The disabled person staying in the car whilst their passenger gets out.

If a disabled person turns up with the intention of getting out but then can't and won't be, they can move to park in a normal space.

LadyKenya · 16/11/2024 11:29

K0OLA1D · 16/11/2024 11:07

Again though, whose licence?

This.

Sugarflub · 16/11/2024 11:37

VegTrug · 15/11/2024 21:39

I have a blue badge and quite often I have to sit in my car for 5 mins before getting out. I have to let my heart rate lower or I could collapse getting out of the car. Same when I get back to the car, I can't drive off straightaway or I could collapse at the wheel. The amount of times I've had "KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK! If you're not getting out of the car can you leave please?" Sick to fucking death of having to share my medical issues with random strangers. I know people will say that I shouldn't do, but if I don't explain then they will just think they were correct!

My DB is a double amputee and thus has a blue badge, the amount of abuse he has received from other blue badge holders is honestly beyond vile.