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Blue badge rules

157 replies

Wishingplenty · 15/11/2024 19:26

So if a blue badge holder drives to a location and parks only where a blue badge holder is allowed to park. Then let's someone else out of the car and waits for them, is this technically breaking blue badge rules because they are not the ones doing the walking but the able bodied person is?

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XenoBitch · 15/11/2024 22:07

ThatCoralShark · 15/11/2024 21:50

I understand you’re trying to scare her into stopping but again. She can just say her son has went ahead, she’s just gathering herself and about to get out, . No warden is going to confiscate her badge for this. I’m sorry, but it’s true.

No not scaring anyone into anything... but her son could wait with her if she is just composing herself.

Babush · 15/11/2024 22:10

VegTrug · 15/11/2024 21:47

@Babush Millions & millions of adults who get PIP, live alone! I don't know where you've seen the criteria but you've misunderstood it

I’ve just looked again at the criteria for PIP and he would get zero points. Can feed, wash, arrange journeys, manage budget, communicate etc. How were you able to claim?

Babush · 15/11/2024 22:11

I would love to be able to claim because it would help him to be able to reduce his working hours.

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JeanLundegaard · 15/11/2024 22:19

Sirzy · 15/11/2024 20:05

If I couldn’t get my son safely out the car due to misuse of the badge I would be pretty pissed off

Do you check every vehicle if someone is in it?

JeanLundegaard · 15/11/2024 22:20

LastTimeLosingIt · 15/11/2024 20:09

People who really care are those thousands of genuinely disabled drivers who literally cannot get out of the car if they are not parked in a blue badge space with the extra space to the side to open the door to its fullest for wheelchair retrieval etc.
Every day I see people abusing the system....disabled people staying in the car while the non disabled person gets out and does whatever they want to do. Yes there are a few who are genuinely in the situation where the disabled person might want to get out of the car as well. But if they ever did a study on this I suspect the amount of abuse that is revealed who would be high.

And yes it does matter. Because arseholes abusing the blue badge scheme mean that genuinely disabled people who rely on being able to drive a car in order to have a life can't do so.

So I’m not genuinely disabled? What are your qualifications to make this assessment?

Normallynumb · 15/11/2024 22:22

Never thought I'd see the line
" a blue badge is a perk"
Would they like my disability to go with that perk?
You can't reason with stupid, can you? lol

Maddy70 · 15/11/2024 22:24

A blue badge can be used to transport the badge holder. The driver doesn't need to be disabled but does need to have the disbled person with them while using the badge

Babush · 15/11/2024 22:29

Normallynumb · 15/11/2024 22:22

Never thought I'd see the line
" a blue badge is a perk"
Would they like my disability to go with that perk?
You can't reason with stupid, can you? lol

Nobody wants a disability but if holding a blue badge means the disabled person can help put another family member then people are going to do it.

Wishingplenty · 15/11/2024 22:31

If someone is knowingly flouting the rules you would think they would keep their head down and mind their own business, why draw attention to yourself by pointing out other drivers and their faults? I thought she was rule bending, and I am glad it has been confirmed on here. Thanks all!

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XenoBitch · 15/11/2024 22:33

Maddy70 · 15/11/2024 22:24

A blue badge can be used to transport the badge holder. The driver doesn't need to be disabled but does need to have the disbled person with them while using the badge

But the BB holder needs to be the one getting out of the vehicle.

Babush · 15/11/2024 22:50

XenoBitch · 15/11/2024 22:33

But the BB holder needs to be the one getting out of the vehicle.

We already ascertained they don’t need to get out of on arrival they decided they weren’t up to it.

Babush · 15/11/2024 22:51

I’m assuming we don’t want a situation where disabled people are forced to leave their cars even if not well enough to do so.

flyingfar · 15/11/2024 22:51

Babush · 15/11/2024 21:40

He has to drive there. She only drives to about 2 places on her own. She drives to our house then they switch cars and go off for a nice little joy ride to the hospital. So she is waiting in the passenger seat.

Still not allowed. The badge owner has to be getting out of the car.

Babush · 15/11/2024 22:52

flyingfar · 15/11/2024 22:51

Still not allowed. The badge owner has to be getting out of the car.

Not if they don’t feel able to do so.

flyingfar · 15/11/2024 22:55

Babush · 15/11/2024 22:52

Not if they don’t feel able to do so.

You are just making stuff up now to suit your situation. Traffic wardens aren’t idiots, they’ve seen it all.

Crispynoodle · 15/11/2024 22:55

How would you ever know? Would you go up to people and accuse them of misuse? I have a hidden disability and hold a blue badge but am not going to lie I would find it very annoying proving to people I have rheumatoid arthritis all the time it's none of your business frankly

Babush · 15/11/2024 22:57

flyingfar · 15/11/2024 22:55

You are just making stuff up now to suit your situation. Traffic wardens aren’t idiots, they’ve seen it all.

I’m not making anything up. That’s the rules. The traffic warden can think what he likes but systems run on rules not feelings.

Portakalkedi · 15/11/2024 23:14

Yes it's wrong and clearly stated in the booklet.It does annoy me as a physically disabled BB holder when I see someone doing it. There are already enough twats abusing these spaces through sheer selfishness. If I can't park in a BB space then I can't get out of the car as the door will not be able to open enough to get my leg out. If I'm out with my DH driving and he is getting out but not me, we always go to a normal space.

Redglitter · 15/11/2024 23:21

Babush · 15/11/2024 22:52

Not if they don’t feel able to do so.

In which case they park elsewhere. If the badge owner is staying in the car they don't park on double yellows or in disabled bays. It's all quite clearly laid out in the book you get with your blue badge

Redglitter · 15/11/2024 23:24

Babush · 15/11/2024 22:50

We already ascertained they don’t need to get out of on arrival they decided they weren’t up to it.

No we haven't. You're making things up as you go along to suit your narrative

You're misusing a blue badge end of story. At least own the fact & admit you don't give a toss about the rules or other disabled drivers & stop trying to justify it

VegTrug · 15/11/2024 23:31

@Babush There's more to pip than feed, wash, arrange journeys & manage budget ffs!

VegTrug · 15/11/2024 23:32

Babush · 15/11/2024 22:51

I’m assuming we don’t want a situation where disabled people are forced to leave their cars even if not well enough to do so.

No you're misunderstanding it! It's not about forcing a disabled person to do something it's about not needing that space! If they don't feel well enough to get out of the car at all, then they don't need to park in a disabled space! You can argue it all you like but that's the law! That is what is written in my blue badge booklet that came with it!

MontyDonsBlueScarf · 15/11/2024 23:33

XenoBitch · 15/11/2024 21:43

If they were in the driver's seat, yes. In the passenger seat, with the driver nowhere to be seen.... that would be a misuse of the BB.

No. You are applying the wrong test.

Before my DH died I often took him out in the car so that he could get out and have some fresh air and a change of scene, He always hoped to be able to get out. Sometimes he could do so immediately, sometimes he could after a while, sometimes it turned out that he just didn't have the strength. In all these situations we were completely within the rules to use a blue badge space. The trip was for his benefit, not for mine.

Whether or not I happened to be still in the car with him, out of the car but still in sight, or out of view, is completely irrelevant. The rules are based on the badge holder's motivation. Any benefit to anyone else is immaterial.

I agree that it's misuse if the motivation is to benefit someone other than the badge holder but I struggle to see how you can infer what someone's motivation was by looking at who happens to be where at any particular time.

Babush · 15/11/2024 23:38

VegTrug · 15/11/2024 23:31

@Babush There's more to pip than feed, wash, arrange journeys & manage budget ffs!

When I just did a search it was talking about needing at least 8 points and these were the categories. He would score zero in them all. I will get the actual forms and see what they say.

Babush · 15/11/2024 23:40

MontyDonsBlueScarf · 15/11/2024 23:33

No. You are applying the wrong test.

Before my DH died I often took him out in the car so that he could get out and have some fresh air and a change of scene, He always hoped to be able to get out. Sometimes he could do so immediately, sometimes he could after a while, sometimes it turned out that he just didn't have the strength. In all these situations we were completely within the rules to use a blue badge space. The trip was for his benefit, not for mine.

Whether or not I happened to be still in the car with him, out of the car but still in sight, or out of view, is completely irrelevant. The rules are based on the badge holder's motivation. Any benefit to anyone else is immaterial.

I agree that it's misuse if the motivation is to benefit someone other than the badge holder but I struggle to see how you can infer what someone's motivation was by looking at who happens to be where at any particular time.

Exactly. I am not forcing my MIL to have a jolly to the hospital. She wants to do it. She is self motivated to do it. She enjoys doing it.