How do I explain LBTQ+ club to my year 7 son?

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Ds4 is 11 and in year 7. He likes to go to clubs at lunchtime, mostly because if you are going to a club you can go to the front of the dinner queue. Ds4 is disabled so he usually ends up at the back of the queue otherwise.

Anyway, one of the club's is the LBQT+ club. Only he doesn't understand what the club is. I asked him what they do there and he said they play games, make badges and sometimes there is cake. He has been asking me what the letters mean but I don't know what to tell him. I could explain about families with 2 mum's or 2 dad's but that seems not quite right when the people going to the club are secondary school aged and I would have thought a large proportion of them are there to get out of the cold and for free cake. Also I have no idea how to explain the other letters to a child who doesn't understand the concept of sex/relationships yet. I'm very conscious that whatever I tell him will be repeated and I don't want him accidentally offending anybody.

We don't know any LBQT+ people apart from 2 of his teachers so I can't say that being trans is like uncle Dave who used to be Auntie Davina or explain that being gay is like Amelia from school who has 2 mums.

Nobody needs to respect pronouns as they are generally used out of earshot of the "owner".

Compelled speech is not part of a democracy.

Amd there's the ignorance.

It isn't ignorance. It's the truth. And you know it. You have been gaslit.

Bingo! See this is why people just don't engage. As the saying goes don't argue with a fool.
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Yes, that sounds about right, except that if you see one on the street you can’t tell the difference!

Three for three. Ding, ding, ding. Waiting on the usual call to arms on the angry ladies threads..

Yes, we're angry. Angry on behalf of kids and abused women who are getting the brunt of this.

'If a child wants to call themselves any pronoun why on earth wouldn't people respect it.'

Because it's not true. It's a lie. You are showing children that it's ok to lie. You are feeding in to an ideology that at its end has middle aged men flashing women and girls and they're not allowed to say no.

If a boy wants to wear a dress and makeup he is absolutely welcome to. That does not give him access to female spaces.

@Marblesbackagain
When the vast majority of normal women and mums from a huge cross section of society disagree with you, it's time to listen.

@Marblesbackagain I'm not sure I get your bingo gotcha.

Please explain why pronouns are crucial to trans ideology. And what is so offensive about those that don't comply with the lie. Why is the world expected to indulge the fantasy? Please do explain.

That doesn’t make any sense at all

And this is why anyone can say anything 🤣🤷‍♀️🤣🤦‍♀️🤣 Bingo card is overflowing.

@Marblesbackagain
I think your marbles have gone again.

The TRAs really think they're something.

Given there have been sex-change operations for decades there is plenty of scientific evidence

There is no such thing as a sex-change operation, because human beings cannot change sex.

Quite. It’s really alarming that so many have fallen for it.

Quite. It’s really alarming that so many have fallen for it.

Whilst simultaneously thinking they're the 'nice' ones, whilst the women who are suggesting maybe encouraging troubled teenagers to cut off healthy breasts isn't particularly kind, are 'witches'.

It is absolutely batshit.

No such thing as a sex change operation.

If you’re so certain this ‘reputable’ source that gives a coherent definition of trans exists then please direct me to it. I have looked and there is none. Because people can’t change sex and ‘gender’ is made up.

Not all transwomen despise women. The ones I knew are incredibly supportive, kind, helpful independent people, who just get on with living their lives in a way that they now feel comfortable.

And that's the full bingo card folks. 🤦‍♀️🤣🤣