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The grown-ups have left the building - Trump thread #136

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Spandauer · 09/11/2024 18:56

As we descend into 4 years of madness...

(thanks @Jaichangecentfoisdenom and* *@AcrossthePond55 for the suggestions)

Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5200273-hands-across-the-water-trump-thread-135

The grown-ups have left the building - Trump thread #136
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SerendipityJane · 13/11/2024 15:38

I know we Brits have a "complicated" relationship with our auld enemy, but we really love one another when it comes down to it.

And how could you not ?

The grown-ups have left the building - Trump thread #136
SerendipityJane · 13/11/2024 15:41

DuncinToffee · 13/11/2024 15:32

The pair discussed Roberts’s book, in which he describes how “many of America’s institutions […] need to be burned”. Included among those to be incinerated, Roberts writes, are the FBI and the New York Times, along with “every Ivy League college”, “80% of ‘Catholic’ higher education”, and the Boy Scouts of America.

What have the Boy Scouts done to be included?

Well the Nazis banned them.

"Trump youth" - I wonder if Hugo Boss are free to design some uniforms ?

SerendipityJane · 13/11/2024 17:14

Well, we can see the Big Oil weren't behind Trump.

Of course the Muskmaster will tell him they are just jealous of Teslas.

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DuncinToffee · 13/11/2024 17:30

Spandauer · 13/11/2024 13:07

Ah, MAGA wants Scott, apparently Trump hasn't publicly sided with any of the 3 senators up for the position - he can't know who to 'punish' as it's a secret ballot) All 3 (Scott, Thune and Cornyn) have said they will work to achieve Trump's agenda.

(Interesting that my autocorrect replaces Cornyn with Corbin - yep! It's all Jezza's fault 😂)

John Thune of South Dakota elected as Republican leader in the Senate

JoshLymanSwagger · 13/11/2024 18:11

He's really appointed a Fox News presenter as Defence Sec?🤯😱

"Oh fucking hell...we're all going to die." was my response.

Eyesopenwideawake · 13/11/2024 18:18

And so it begins...

The grown-ups have left the building - Trump thread #136
Spandauer · 13/11/2024 18:24

JoshLymanSwagger · 13/11/2024 18:11

He's really appointed a Fox News presenter as Defence Sec?🤯😱

"Oh fucking hell...we're all going to die." was my response.

Candidates have to be confirmed/approved by the Senate. But Trump wants to bypass this stage.

Hegseth:
The Princeton- and Harvard-educated Hegseth, who served as an Army infantryman in Iraq and Afghanistan as a member of the Minnesota National Guard, also played a role in episodes that roiled the Pentagon and involved Trump’s defiance of military norms during his first term in office.

From WaPo:
...But that’s the test: Do Republican senators, tasked with balancing out the power of the executive branch, dare contest Trump’s nominee?


Trump has already introduced a test for his party’s Senate caucus, demanding that they allow him to make appointments to his administration and the courts while the chamber is recessed, bypassing the requirement of Senate approval. Some Republican leaders quickly agreed. They, like many in their party, appear to think that protecting their individual power as senators is preferable (or at least easier) than protecting their institutional power.


That this issue emerges again around the Department of Defense is striking, particularly given other indications that Trump plans on upending the department. The Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday that Trump was considering the formation of a board that would evaluate leadership within the military, likely to lead to a purge of those seen as failing to meet standards set by the administration. Loyalty to Trump and his politics would almost certainly be an implicit standard, if not an explicit one.


As commander in chief, he has the power to fire military leaders. What’s proposed here is different, though. It’s a remaking of the institution, a jettisoning of the slow accretion of authority within the armed forces — with a Fox News host nodding along from his desk at the Pentagon.


Hegseth’s nomination will probably not be as easy as Ingraham and Chaffetz hinted that it should be. Even if it isn’t, Trump is signaling what he wants: a legislative branch that won’t counteract his demands, however dubious, and a military that will operate strictly within the boundaries that he sets, from the top down.
This is, to put it mildly, a deviation from how past presidents have wielded power.

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Spandauer · 13/11/2024 18:50

Only space in the circus for one clown.

The grown-ups have left the building - Trump thread #136
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JoshLymanSwagger · 13/11/2024 19:29

Spandauer · 13/11/2024 18:50

Only space in the circus for one clown.

Musk for America 2028.

Spandauer · 13/11/2024 19:46

Thune - historically not a fan of Trump but is he going to be a McConnell clone?

www.meidasplus.com/p/maga-melts-down-over-rick-scott-defeat?utm_medium=ios

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DuncinToffee · 13/11/2024 20:29

Trump names Tulsi Gabbard Director of National Intelligence in another coup for the Kremlin.

CaveMum · 13/11/2024 20:31

JoshLymanSwagger · 13/11/2024 19:29

Musk for America 2028.

Fortunately Musk was born in South Africa.

CaveMum · 13/11/2024 20:31

Spandauer · 13/11/2024 18:50

Only space in the circus for one clown.

Mooch has said repeatedly that Trump doesn’t like sharing credit/the limelight….

Talkinpeace · 13/11/2024 20:43

Trump - a narcissistic egomaniac
is surrounding himself with a group of narcissistic egomaniacs
and expecting them to come up with workable compromises
you could not make it up

DuncinToffee · 13/11/2024 20:46

Trump names U.S. Rep. Matt Gaetz as Attorney General Shock

SerendipityJane · 13/11/2024 20:46

Talkinpeace · 13/11/2024 20:43

Trump - a narcissistic egomaniac
is surrounding himself with a group of narcissistic egomaniacs
and expecting them to come up with workable compromises
you could not make it up

We can but hope it eventually coalesces into a circular firing squad.

Spandauer · 13/11/2024 20:57

DuncinToffee · 13/11/2024 20:46

Trump names U.S. Rep. Matt Gaetz as Attorney General Shock

JFC - another *abuser
(*allegedly)

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BustingBaoBun · 13/11/2024 21:30

DuncinToffee · 13/11/2024 20:46

Trump names U.S. Rep. Matt Gaetz as Attorney General Shock

What in the actual name of all that is holy 😲😲

I thought he was (or is) investigated for some dodgy sex with minors or trafficking or something?

LlynTegid · 13/11/2024 21:36

JoshLymanSwagger · 13/11/2024 18:11

He's really appointed a Fox News presenter as Defence Sec?🤯😱

"Oh fucking hell...we're all going to die." was my response.

Defence Secretary was about the only position in the UK Tory governments in recent years filled by someone who was competent.

Remember we had Suella Braverman as our Attorney General and Chris Grayling heading the legal system.

Spandauer · 13/11/2024 21:40

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Florida) has always been largely disliked by many of his House Republican colleagues, often serving as a thorn in their sides. Several House Republican lawmakers and aides, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to express their shock at the appointment, joked that Gaetz’s appointment to attorney general is one way for him to no longer be investigated by the House Ethics Committee regarding allegations of sexual misconduct.
^^
“I think he’s got his work cut out for him,” Sen Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) says of the road ahead for Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Florida) to be confirmed as Donald Trump’s attorney general.
 Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) says Gaetz will face “tough questions” at the judiciary hearing and that he is inclined to support presidential appointments. Graham added he was a little bit surprised by the pick.
^^
Senators ‘shocked’ after Trump makes Gaetz, Gabbard picks Sen. Joe Manchin III (I-West Virginia) said senators are talking about the Tulsi Gabbard and Matt Gaetz picks on the Senate floor right now, trying to process the news. “No one could believe it,” he said. “They all have good qualities, I guess. It’s just people I would not have thought would be in those positions.”
 Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) says there will be “many, many questions” for Gaetz at his hearing and that she was “shocked” by the news of his pick.

“I don’t think it’s a serious nomination for the attorney general. That’s Lisa Murkowski’s view,” Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) said of Donald Trump’s nomination of Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Florida) for attorney general. “This one was not on my bingo card.”

(from Washington Post)

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JoshLymanSwagger · 13/11/2024 21:49

CaveMum · 13/11/2024 20:31

Fortunately Musk was born in South Africa.

Trump and Musk won't let a little thing like that stop them.

Eyesopenwideawake · 13/11/2024 22:19

After fours years of stress during his first term I'm totally detached from the forthcoming shitstorm - I can't do anything about it and it's unlikely to make any meaningful impact on my life. Unless the USA becomes so incompetent and ineffective that Russia/China/AN Other decide it's their turn to become the 'world leader'. Unlikely but not impossible.

RafaistheKingofClay · 13/11/2024 22:52

Was looking for this thread and somehow couldn’t find it yesterday. Quick placemark.

SerendipityJane · 14/11/2024 10:38

JoshLymanSwagger · 13/11/2024 21:49

Trump and Musk won't let a little thing like that stop them.

If the constitution can be amended to remove the 2-term limit, then removing the need for a president to be a natural born citizen - or even elected - would be just as easy. "The People" would cheer it through.

pointythings · 14/11/2024 11:27

SerendipityJane · 14/11/2024 10:38

If the constitution can be amended to remove the 2-term limit, then removing the need for a president to be a natural born citizen - or even elected - would be just as easy. "The People" would cheer it through.

Amending the Constitution isn't easy though. Having said that, if America is as mad as it now looks, it may be possible.

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