How to not be utterly depressed and scared about Trump winning

[ChocolateMagnum]

Is there any way at all to reframe the likely outcome of the US election? I just feel terrible this morning. Scared and angry. It's wasted energy, though. I can't do anything positive with these feelings and I'm guessing I'm not the only person feeling like this. How are other people finding ways to move out of this feeling so they aren't wasting time and energy on something they have no influence over currently?

Exactly, the outcome of a lot of things that we have no control over that happen elsewhere in the world affects us. I’m choosing not to give any headspace to the batshit goings on in US politics monkey circus. I don’t have a vote so I don’t have a say and handwringing and arguing about the situation with the lunatics on social media is a catastrophically poor use of my time and mental energy.

People tend to make decisions based on emotion, then try to justify them with logic. And the mass media is more than happy to give people the “evidence” that fits in with their existing beliefs. Better access to education (at all levels) might help to some extent, but it won’t change human nature.

They did mention policy, but nobody listened.

They made the case that immigrants aren't a threat to jobs under the Democrats, lowest unemployment for 50 years, and inflation is coming down as are interest rates.

They made the case that it was Trump that torpedoed the border agreement, that illegal border crossings had fallen for 5 months in a row.

Trump increased the National debt, despite claiming he'd reduce it, even though he inherited a booming economy & low levels of unemployment. He did that before his mishandling of covid.

Nothing cut through.

Does anyone reckon kamala will resign?? Like, where is she? 😄 does she need to concede if she's clearly lost, not sure??

I think she will resign, I would tbh

If your candidate is seen to be mediocre it doesn't matter for the most part what she says. She remains mediocre. Politics is not about morality: it's about exercising power to make policies effective. The Americans have chosen Trump because they believe he can do that in respect of policies they prefer. We shall see if they are right.

I think that's what people cannot understand. We all have different political ideas but Trump's actions are objectionable well beyond politics.

Yes I feel the same. I've been around long enough to see political leaders come and go some I voted for some I hated but trump is different. It's more than his political position, which I'll admit I don't understand if even he does, it is Americans accepting that this is who they want to represent them. By voting for him you are voting for all of him, you are endorsing all his behaviour, you have set the tone for your society for the next 4 years. This is all we'll see and hear now as the voice of America. This is more than supporting one political party over another. This is a statement about America.

This.

The people who keep saying ‘he’s already done 4 years and the world didn’t end’ are ignoring the fact that last time he had people around him who kept him in check. Those people left him after the Capitol Hill debacle. He’s left with people like Vance who are as crazy as him.

And the Supreme Court packed, and since they serve for life even future presidencies will not be able to change that.

That's not how the system works in US. They don't have shadow politicians or official "opposition" leaders. So she's already "gone". (Technically lame duck roles until the inauguration).

No I know but when I posted that she hadn't announced that she'd concede

Figured she'd quit rather than stay on as veep, but she's since said she'd do things properly unlike trump in 2020 x

Hilary didn’t concede immediately in 2016. So the story goes, she was in shock for a good few hours so it was thought best not to roll her out in front of the cameras.

The concession is not “required” it’s more a good sportsmanship thing.

For those that are interested, there are long running threads dating back to Trump Season 1 (2016-2020) and you’re more than welcome to join and discuss US politics and the like with us: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5200273-hands-across-the-water-trump-thread-135?page=8&reply=139606173

Choosing not to engage is different than saying it's none of our business though.

But let's draw a line under it & go do something better for our MH!

I have felt depressed all day. I’ve just watched Dawn French is a huge twat on bbc iplayer which cheered me up a bit and gave a bit of balance against trump and his hateful views and delusional supporters. He loves to bring out the worst in humanity and his ego knows no bounds.
Dawn is the very opposite.
I would encourage all of you ladles and jelly spoons to have a watch if you are feeling low.

It was democracy. People can vote for what they want. The world keeps turning. 🙄

It makes me feel better to think that Trump just says things - things to get him elected, things people want to hear, off the cuff remarks about things he doesn't understand.

I think the media over analysis this stuff sometimes.

Small mercies I know.

Yes there is! You can’t be President for more than two terms so this is his swan song and secondly he didn’t do any lasting damage the first time around.

I dislike Trump but dislike Kamala Harris even more. She had no policies and only denigrated Trump the whole time so I'll be glad to see the back of her.
The American people obviously liked what Trump had to offer in his first presidency or they wouldn't have voted him in.

Article to cheer you up!

www.google.ie/amp/story/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/06/trump-election-win-guardrails

@KhakiShaker

"He’s left with people like Vance who are as crazy as him."

Vance is exceptionally smart and most definitely not crazy. Depending on your politics he could be viewed as very dangerous, calculating and ruthless or just what America needs. But he most definitely not crazy.

Don't forget he once described Trump as an idiot and reprehensible. He ran as Trump's VP because if Trump won then he would be the Presidential candidate for 2029 and if Trump lost then he would be the Presidential candidate for 2029.

Trumps personal behavior would have continued regardless of whether or not he won.
"Christian rule" sounds better to me than far left fascist rule.
Women and children will be better off without men in their sports/locker rooms/toilets
The country will be safer without dei hires.
Some isolated cases of women suffering due to state abortion law does not over ride the rest of it.

Kids and women and men suffered under Biden too.

Ah, that's fine then. Let's not worry about women losing control of their own bodies and reproductive rights. Or losing what little maternity rights they currently have.

If you think the abortion laws, or the linked access to contraception being suggested, only lead to death in a few isolated cases you are worryingly naive. I gave one example as it was experienced by a best friend of mine. She was basically told that the clump of cells growing in her fallopian tube was more important than her life. Or being a mother to her other children. Or her future fertility.

But you seem to think having a President who is comfortable sexually assaulting women will protect women 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

And Harris clearly laid out how she was going to improve things.

And it. And still would be, illegal to a child to have gender reassignment surgery in the US. Exactly the same as in the UK.

Another thing Harris was going to do to protect women and girls was forced the states that allow CHILDREN to marry to change their laws. Between 2000 and 2018, over 300,000 child marriages took place in the US.

Harris wanted to recognise long COVID as a disease of itself whereas Trump he sees COVID as a non issue and a mild cold.