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How to not be utterly depressed and scared about Trump winning

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ChocolateMagnum · 06/11/2024 07:31

Is there any way at all to reframe the likely outcome of the US election? I just feel terrible this morning. Scared and angry. It's wasted energy, though. I can't do anything positive with these feelings and I'm guessing I'm not the only person feeling like this. How are other people finding ways to move out of this feeling so they aren't wasting time and energy on something they have no influence over currently?

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Doubledenim305 · 08/11/2024 19:00

chicken2015 · 08/11/2024 08:23

Yes but left wing isn't insistence that the media that doesn't agree with them are the enemy of the people ! There is no both sides use cult tactics! Trump uses specifically terms to keep the information on him only good. And anything else is fake news. That is specifically controling your information. Not just Relying on confirmation bias that's what u r talking about.

To be fair the left are the ones who literally rage at anyone who dares disagree with them.
Just think of all the things the liberal left literally police this nation over.
Absolutely hatred towards anyone who is against abortion, LGBTQ ideology, COVID vaccine, Trump, Brexit and on it goes..... Everyone is allowed their opinion as long as it agrees with the party line.
Funny that the majority of England did vote for Brexit and Americana did vote for trump. People are increasingly vaccine hesitant.. especially the covid one.
Yeah the liberal left are a very vocal and aggressive bunch.

1dayatatime · 08/11/2024 20:26

Well it seems that there was an attempt by Iranian agents to assassinate Trump before the election.

Ironically one of the reasons they put it on hold was that they were sure he would lose and any assassination attempt would be easier after the election.

www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/11/08/trump-iran-arrested-assassination-attempt/

This is not exactly going to put Iran on Trump's Christmas card list.

06230villefrancesurmer · 08/11/2024 20:26

America has crossed her Rubicon. imo.

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juldan · 08/11/2024 20:32

ItWasnaMeGuv · 08/11/2024 17:18

States will be able to decide the cut off for abortions, be it 6 weeks to nine months. Women can attend appointments in states which suit their particular need.

It doesn't matter that it is a small number of cheating men who invade women's sports (women who selfID as men still overwhelmingly stay in women's sports, which is perfectly fine). The fact is, one cheating man can affect a whole team (or both teams) of women. It is fundamentally unfair, cruel and inhumane to force women to play against a team with one or more men in it, not to mention the embarrassment and anxiety of having to shower and change with these men afterwards.

The tampon issue is important because men do not require tampons in their public bathrooms and crucially, women who pretend to be men should not be using male facilities anyway, this is an invasion of privacy for the male students. To pretend that these women actually ARE men is insane, surely you can recognise that?

Young people, children, teenagers who think they identify as the opposite sex should be offered support and counselling to come to terms with difficulties and anxieties with puberty or other comorbidities such as autism or fears that they may be gay or lesbian. No child is born in the wrong body, giving any child puberty blockers is a form of abuse. Puberty is a human right and a rite of passage which every human requires in order to transition to adulthood. Preventing it creates an adult with stunted genitalia, immature, stunted brain function, long term mental and physical health issues. Adults who think they are the opposite sex have a mental illness what needs proper treatment, not affirmation. If they are male, they are most likely AGPs and a fetish of being affirmed as women.

Tim Walz and empathy? An oxymoron, surely? Hmm

@ItWasnaMeGuv
Did you actually read what I wrote?

  1. I said I was against men in women’s spaces/sport.
  2. I did not say anything about preventing puberty, I’m very much against it.
If someone needs a tampon, they are not on puberty blockers, are they? I work in education and we provide “sanpro” to all the students. I cannot imagine a situation where a vulnerable person came to us and we would give them lecture instead of help. That’s what Tim Walz did, and yes, it is empathy.

With regards to women’s rights, why should a state decide if a woman should be allowed to have an abortion?????
The only person who has a right to decide to have/not have an abortion is a WOMAN. No government, whether it is a state or a federal one, should have a say in it.
No woman should be forced to travel to another state or country to attend a medical procedure.Not every woman can afford that.

Since you think that having men in women’s sports is a bigger issue than not allowing women control over their own bodies, please tell me how many women have died while competing because men were allowed in female sport?
I assume the number must be bigger than the number of women who have died in USA in the last two years as the result of changes in abortion laws.

chicken2015 · 08/11/2024 21:02

Doubledenim305 · 08/11/2024 19:00

To be fair the left are the ones who literally rage at anyone who dares disagree with them.
Just think of all the things the liberal left literally police this nation over.
Absolutely hatred towards anyone who is against abortion, LGBTQ ideology, COVID vaccine, Trump, Brexit and on it goes..... Everyone is allowed their opinion as long as it agrees with the party line.
Funny that the majority of England did vote for Brexit and Americana did vote for trump. People are increasingly vaccine hesitant.. especially the covid one.
Yeah the liberal left are a very vocal and aggressive bunch.

I am saying trump uses specific cult tactics! Not the right are having a go at the left they are not comparable !u say but the left are what rightfully angry ..... there is no comparison, people are hateful to people who are against forcing their anti abortion on to others not just being anti abortion is enough, so fair enough, LGBTQ right so have equal rights is bad?! , covid, well scientist did agree vacine was better than no vacine and i belive science over random internet people , trump well I mean trumps a lying criminal who boasts about sexually assaulting women, who is liable for deformation of raping a women and trying to turn america into a fascist dictatorship (in my opnion) I'm not surprised people are angry and brexit has now been say to be overall negative, everyone issue u picked people have a right to be angry! And the left isn't in a cult of leftist! And the irony that America is even some leftist place! The demacrates here would be considered middle to Conservatism and Republicans well the way they are going nazi Germany!
My comment was specifically that trump uses cult tactics no word on that!

chicken2015 · 08/11/2024 21:13

I'm going to add because I really cannot be bothered to get into argument with anyone, as I'm aware, no one chooses to be in a cult, noone will openly accept that they are in said cult. The demacrates could be anything or anyone that is against trump as they are nothing about trump specifically using way to control your information, he uses certain words he tells u certain things (don't listen to any other media about me its fake news or only right wing media biggest example) , he had a them vs us mentality, intelligent people fall for cults, people are not dumb if they fall for it, they have just been indoctrinated. I'm not arguing what about harris or demacrates, I'm focused on trump , what he says, what he does. To get out people need to be with people on an emotional level to remind them of what they was like before their brain was hijacked. This doesn't happen on the Internet forums of random people . I really hope people get out of the cult, I doubt they will.

AcceptAllChanges · 08/11/2024 21:14

It's not all bad! I like what he said about taking steps to reverse the "gender insanity" that has been getting out of hand in recent years. Helping to sue doctors who have irreversibly mutilated children. Investigating Pharma/healthcare cover-ups of the long-term side effects of transitioning, to maintain profits. Cracking down on unlicensed marketing of hormones and blockers... etc etc. Since all the craziness seems to start off in America and spread around the world, it would be nice if sanity did the same.

Doubledenim305 · 08/11/2024 22:02

chicken2015 · 08/11/2024 21:02

I am saying trump uses specific cult tactics! Not the right are having a go at the left they are not comparable !u say but the left are what rightfully angry ..... there is no comparison, people are hateful to people who are against forcing their anti abortion on to others not just being anti abortion is enough, so fair enough, LGBTQ right so have equal rights is bad?! , covid, well scientist did agree vacine was better than no vacine and i belive science over random internet people , trump well I mean trumps a lying criminal who boasts about sexually assaulting women, who is liable for deformation of raping a women and trying to turn america into a fascist dictatorship (in my opnion) I'm not surprised people are angry and brexit has now been say to be overall negative, everyone issue u picked people have a right to be angry! And the left isn't in a cult of leftist! And the irony that America is even some leftist place! The demacrates here would be considered middle to Conservatism and Republicans well the way they are going nazi Germany!
My comment was specifically that trump uses cult tactics no word on that!

Nazi Germany...yes yes. It's the same old same old name calling when anyone dares to disagree. This is the perfect example of what I was talking about. That's why people nod, say nothing and then vote differently.

mollyfolk · 08/11/2024 23:36

AcceptAllChanges · 08/11/2024 21:14

It's not all bad! I like what he said about taking steps to reverse the "gender insanity" that has been getting out of hand in recent years. Helping to sue doctors who have irreversibly mutilated children. Investigating Pharma/healthcare cover-ups of the long-term side effects of transitioning, to maintain profits. Cracking down on unlicensed marketing of hormones and blockers... etc etc. Since all the craziness seems to start off in America and spread around the world, it would be nice if sanity did the same.

Do you hate trans people more than you like women?

I'm baffled by this view. Whether you are gender critical or pro trans rights surely we can all agree that this man does nothing for women's rights.

Grab them by the Pussy! Like honest to god. You'd worry about people's comprehension skills really. Listen to what he is saying.

Freud2 · 09/11/2024 07:37

I voted Brexit! I agree that most people on here seem to be anti-Brexit

chicken2015 · 09/11/2024 08:24

Doubledenim305 · 08/11/2024 22:02

Nazi Germany...yes yes. It's the same old same old name calling when anyone dares to disagree. This is the perfect example of what I was talking about. That's why people nod, say nothing and then vote differently.

Where is anyone naming calling?! To be fair u r the perfect example of someone who isn't actually listening to what is being said! I mean I have already put specific examples of how hitler and trump are similar, no name calling, but as its its a cult the the confirmation bias is strong and the dismissive is strong, and the inability to take new information, and yes let's pretend I'm not angry that trump got in! I mean I'm not a demacrat so im not upset my side didnt get in! let's hope it isn't as bad as its being said it will be.

chicken2015 · 09/11/2024 08:29

What's clear with these exchanges is there not actually argument against what I'm saying its all "people hate trump ,they are being mean and angry and naming calling" its quite pathetic really but like I keep saying it's a cult. Their brain has been taken over and ironically it isn't their fault. It's genuinely sad. And let's hope he isn't as evil as people are thinking and if he is its going to be a pretty crappy 'I told u so'

Dogsbreath7 · 09/11/2024 08:32

I was just grateful that it was a clear win- the unrest and vitriol from the last election has been avoided- and the grown ups lost.

not happy Trump won for all the obvious reasons but my main despair is with the American people. We may speak (sort of) the same language but we are NOT the same people. Between the religious ferocity which excludes compassion and the racism and misogyny, I don’t have any aspirations to visit.

the world is uncertain and Trump adds to that. But there is a possibility that his unpredictability may actual limit Russia, China, Iran and the other state nations who hate the west.

Truthy · 09/11/2024 08:45

StartupRepair · 06/11/2024 20:22

The whole planet will be affected by Trump rolling back all climate change efforts. We have such a short window to keep the planet habitable.

All climate change efforts seem to be putting taxes on anything that produces carbon.
Leading to higher living costs and ruining the economy, taking farmers lands, forcing everyone to buy EVs, and isnl used to justify all kinds of nonsense cos politicians commited to reducing carbon emissions.
All the while the world stays polluted by things far worse than carbon.
Hopefully Trump does stop that nonsense.

Rikitiki78 · 12/11/2024 19:14

Are you kidding. Check back to us in the US in a year. Things will look a heck of a lot better. He’s not a saint but he. Won by a landslide for a reason. We would have lost this beautiful country in another term under the left.

06230villefrancesurmer · 12/11/2024 22:30

Rikitiki78 · 12/11/2024 19:14

Are you kidding. Check back to us in the US in a year. Things will look a heck of a lot better. He’s not a saint but he. Won by a landslide for a reason. We would have lost this beautiful country in another term under the left.

You're young one would hope but just excually to whom you would have lost the country too ? Canadian terrorism, Mexican farmers or dare I say alaskian big foots. Get a grip mate and calm down. Monsters under the bed are not real.. and the only
thing that you know That is left is which one of your feet you put somewhere

Savemydrink · 13/11/2024 22:43

This is better than the best episode of West Wing. I hear that CNN are shedding 100 jobs from their news team. Well, serves them right.

FreshLaundry · 14/11/2024 09:43

Honestly Trump’s picks for key roles look batshit already. The US are going to get the government they deserve.

FreshLaundry · 14/11/2024 09:44

@Truthy unchecked climate change will also ruin the economy. Unfortunately doing nothing is a risk.

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