How to not be utterly depressed and scared about Trump winning

[ChocolateMagnum]

Is there any way at all to reframe the likely outcome of the US election? I just feel terrible this morning. Scared and angry. It's wasted energy, though. I can't do anything positive with these feelings and I'm guessing I'm not the only person feeling like this. How are other people finding ways to move out of this feeling so they aren't wasting time and energy on something they have no influence over currently?

Er no. He had them put in the boys toilets. What a tool!

I am delighted that DT has won, I don't like the guy but I despised the Dems, infected as they are by trans woke nonsense and DEI. One of the first things Biden did (on his first day as President) was destroy women's sports by allowing men in womanface the right to take part. A travesty. As for them supporting the transing of children . I sincerely hope DT repeals all the woke laws and gives back women their rights to privacy, dignity and safety in public areas where they have to be undressed, as well as saving women and girls' sports.

Many children have already had the surgery and if Kamala wanted to change things she had four years to do it.
We can see what happens now.
Ultimately American women and men voted for trump and they must have had their reasons after living through both parties rule.

I haven't RTFT but, really, is this in any way a serious question?

"How failsafe are those safeguards?"

Just in case this is actually a serious question. In order to pass an amendment to overturn Article 2 of the US Constitution then two thirds of both houses would have to vote for it (so quite a few Democrats would have to vote for it) and then 38 out of the 50 states would have to vote for it as well.

Just for context, only 30 out of the 50 states have voted for Trump this time round.

So, no, that is not going to happen.

@AnonymousBleep
I loathe Trump and find him a laughable but deeply unpleasant misogynist. But in the service of fairness, it was Biden who withdrew US troops from Afghanistan and heralded the return of the Taliban.

Trump negotiated the withdrawal from Afghanistan, (talking only to the Taliban and excluding the Afghan government) and set the time frame as part of those negotiations. Biden pushed the final withdrawal date back several months.

I have been following trump since 2015! It's genuinely terrifying! And most people have no idea the severity of it! I.mean I think it will depend if he decides to do project 2025! If he does that there probably won't be another election and people can call me dramatic but doesn't matter ultimately! Hitler didn't kill Jews on day one, fascism was slow and steady and his military people around him called him a fascist! I mean people can pretend that isn't worrying or people are being dramatic but if he turns out to be a fascist dictator it will be too late to suddenly be upset about it! And the person who said there is no need to feel anger , well being genuinely concerned my children's future might be effected makes me angry! He's putins puppet he's had ties to russia since the 1980s! Russia North Korea and China have formed a fascist alliance, he might be adding US to it too!

I think social media has a lot to answer for. It seems clear that the powers of the world are using it as a platform to spread fear and hate, which is the perfect breeding ground to obtain money and power. They are only too happy to feed the hate to a world of many people who feel scared and disenfranchised. This results in the kind of extreme views that cause people to vote for idiots like Trump. It's a crazy world.

I fear Trump and his more extreme voters will be quite emboldened by this win, given all the controversy which should have made it impossible for this to happen. I hope I'm wrong.

What is project 2025

I haven't RTFT but, really, is this in any way a serious question?

"How failsafe are those safeguards?"

Just in case this is actually a serious question. In order to pass an amendment to overturn Article 2 of the US Constitution then two thirds of both houses would have to vote for it (so quite a few Democrats would have to vote for it) and then 38 out of the 50 states would have to vote for it as well.

Just for context, only 30 out of the 50 states have voted for Trump this time round.

So, no, that is not going to happen.

@Another2Cats

It's not Article 2 actually, it's the 22nd amendment which concerns allowing presidents to serve more than two terms - something Donald Trump has already mooted. So in fact a very real possibility to consider.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c977njnvq2do.amp

It was written by a group called The Heritage Foundation who are basically a right-wing think tank. It is a proposal document of what should be implemented in 2025 following a Trump win.

Trump has distanced himself from it, but a number of his close allies are supporters of it.

A lot of it is very generic but there are scary things, like the extent they want to roll back women’s reproductive rights (eg make it a criminal offence for a woman to travel out of state for an abortion); and the sacking of 50,000 federal employees, who will be rehired only after swearing an allegiance to the President (note the President himself, not the Office of the President or the Constitution); to the downright bizarre - something about rounding up wild mustangs (horses) and shooting them.

On the bright side, he can’t have another term after this one. 😳 And surely that Vance thing won’t have the same effect on voters as Trump seems to have.

The whole planet will be affected by Trump rolling back all climate change efforts. We have such a short window to keep the planet habitable.

@ItWasnaMeGuv
what about the rights to dignity, safety and privacy of these women who live in anti abortion states and are forced to birth children against their will???
What about the rights to dignity and equality of lesbian women who live in the states, which are already talking about backtracking on things like same sex marriage?
I am firmly against men in women’s spaces or sports, but the number of men/ boys in female sports is tiny compared to the number of women who would like to have a choice with regards to their pregnancies.

Bringing up the tampon issue as an example of terrible policy is laughable.
Neither Biden or Harris invented transgender people.

There are young people/teenagers who identify as the opposite sex. They are either genuinely transgender or confused/not accepting their sexuality, etc.

Telling them that they cannot have a tampon because they dress as boys/use boys toilets will definitely not ‘cure’ them.
If anything, it shows that Tim Walz knows what empathy is.

He wants to sack the federal employees and install he's own 'workforce ' who had had trainning, u can search to see 'trainning/propaganda ' and basically be completely loyal to trump! So any regular career goverment employee sacked to stop any crazy stuff last time, wont happen anymore. He's distanced himself but there is undercover footage of a pretend financer where the co author of it tells him trump is on board regardless of what's in media. And what trump says

Unless he stages another insurrection and as he doesn't have any regular people around him now he could be successful!

When was Trumps speech about depression? Was that today? He was giving a lecture saying the cure for depression is work because you will be too busy to be depressed. Did he say that today? Or was that another day?

I work in care and if it was up to them I would be working 24 fucking 7. I am likely depressed for several different reasons. I have a disgruntled ex who won't leave me alone. I have a mother going senile. I work in the care industry and my job is a mess. It can become too intense and long. I can tell you long working days does not cure depression. It makes it 1000 times worse. I live in squalor. I am trying to do my best but I hardly have time for myself. Just last weekend was my first weekend off in over a month. That was in top of mon to Fri work too. I had to force myself to clean. I got half done and there's more to go. Work does not cure depression. I cry because I can't even find the time to go for a shower. To cut my toenails. To work on a hobby. To see my partner. To see my family. Work does not cure depression.

If it was up to trump going by that statement he would have his population working 24/7 too.

They literally just had 4 years to address the concerns of voters. They did nothing, they couldn’t even tell the truth about Joe’s dementia. It is not surprising in the least, that Trump won this election. The Dems have had what they deserve but I doubt they will learn anything.

Now we are ALL unburdened by what might have been, thank goodness for that.

Trump has a large, strong, well educated family. I’m sure there will be another Trump to fill his shoes for the next term.

I think he'll just use the next four years to enrich himself at the expense of the American people (and the grifters around him will do the same). Then he'll be done. It's not like Brexit which is an open ended fuck up. He's got 4 years and then it's someone else's turn.

I don't believe that Vance is capable of inspiring the same devotion that Trump does and he's clearly not groomed any of his children to take on that mantle so I think Trumpism will die with him.

I think his plans for tariffs against China and other countries to support manufacturing in the USA are excellent and I wish we had the financial importance in the world to do this in the UK.

Apart from that I am not giving it too much headspace. I can't really get that worked up about it when our own country is in such a huge mess.

I agree with pp that Brexit has fucked us far more than Trump will fuck America.

Do you live in the US? If not then save your anger for the uk government!

Why though? Britain doesn't need more manufacturing...we need doctors, teachers, dentists, scientists. Educated and well paid people. I'd support a government who were advocating policies to enable more people to enter these professions. Let the Chinese make our cheap cars and phones...

"It's not Article 2 actually, it's the 22nd amendment which concerns allowing presidents to serve more than two terms"

You're right about that, but I was thinking more about the length of term. If you amend Article 2 then Trump doesn't need to worry about getting re-elected, he can just make himself president for however long he wants, President for Life even.

"The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows:"
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Then, to your point.

"...something Donald Trump has already mooted"

Yes, but in a very specific situation. He said "A massive fraud of this type allows for the termination..."

But my reply still stands to the initial question:

"How failsafe are those safeguards?"

They are very safe indeed.

In order to pass an amendment to the US Constitution then two thirds of both houses would have to vote for it (so quite a few Democrats would have to vote for it) and then 38 out of the 50 states would have to vote for it as well.

Just for context, only 30 out of the 50 states have voted for Trump this time round (assuming that Nevada and Arizona go Trump).

So, no, that is not going to happen.

Whether you like it or not, we need to grow our economy, and you don't do that by expanding the public sector to the detriment of income streams. What happens when all we are producing is public service workers?