How to not be utterly depressed and scared about Trump winning

[ChocolateMagnum]

Is there any way at all to reframe the likely outcome of the US election? I just feel terrible this morning. Scared and angry. It's wasted energy, though. I can't do anything positive with these feelings and I'm guessing I'm not the only person feeling like this. How are other people finding ways to move out of this feeling so they aren't wasting time and energy on something they have no influence over currently?

It was Trump who was endorsing never ending worse as cure for depression. The UK government would never come out with anything that daft. I explained my position where my work can become extremely intense and it's nota cute for depression. If anything it makes things so much worse.

He needs 2/3rd of the several States to agree. Unlikely.

It was Wes Streeting who was mooting back to work coaches going into MH wards.

The constitution’s checks and balances are robust and since the War Powers Resolution 1973 they get even tighter should the US be at war.

I take heart that due to the separation of powers, etc the President has a lot less power than we all assume.

I was delighted. Never understood how even a single person could have voted for Kamala. I was surprised how many votes she did get.

...true but in a democracy you have to abide by the result otherwise you get Remoaners or insurrectionists trying to overturn the result.

Remoaners isn't a nice term. If we are going to criticise "the left" for treating people that vote differently to them with contempt, then it should work the other way. Otherwise you get two groups of embittered tribes who view each others as enemies, not political opponents. America in other words.
Most Remainers were depressed about the result and after a bit of complaining settled down. I think they were entitled to say "I told you so" a few times. A few launched legal challenges through the courts etc and you had the issues in Parliament around what sort of Brexit, Brexit should be which led to Parliament being prorogued. Those were people exercising their rights within the legal system though. The parliamentary process was painful but that just reflected the general state of the country around the question. In the end, the machinery of parliament carried everyone through and people accepted the end of the process even though the type of Brexit delivered wasn't what a lot of people wanted (we would never have been able to find one that was). That was completely different to what happened in America on January 6. If anything the whole 2019 thing made me appreciate British legal and parliamentary institutions more because they do work (eventually) in a crisis.

This is specifically how project 2025 allows for fascism, and this is just by asking chatgpt so not random on Internet being over dramatic! People should be worried!

1. Control over Federal Agencies and Media: Project 2025 proposes to dismantle or drastically alter the editorial independence of the U.S. Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which oversees outlets like Voice of America and Radio Free Asia. By seeking control over these independent media platforms, critics suggest that the project aims to transform them into government propaganda tools, which would eliminate their role in providing unbiased news both domestically and internationally. The plan to cut funding to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting is also seen as an attempt to silence media that may critique government actions, resembling efforts in authoritarian states to suppress press freedom.

1. Judicial System Influence: Project 2025 outlines efforts to reshape the federal judiciary to reflect conservative ideology. This approach is controversial because it would seek to entrench certain interpretations of law that may restrict civil liberties, such as reproductive rights and LGBTQ+ protections. For example, Project 2025 advocates for measures that could enable a national abortion ban, and push "personhood" language that would restrict abortion rights and some forms of contraception, echoing similar authoritarian approaches seen in countries like Poland.

1. Expansion of Executive Power: The project aims to centralize more power within the executive branch, reducing the checks and balances that Congress and the judiciary typically provide. Such consolidation of power has been seen historically in fascist regimes, where one branch or leader assumes significant control over the government, sidelining other branches and opposition voices

@chicken2015 respectfully, if you can't be bothered to think about the reasons and type them out yourself why should other people be bothered to read it? I probably agree about project 2025 but asking Chat GPT to summarise the arguments won't convince anyone of anything.

@Brananan

"What happens when all we are producing is public service workers?"

Well the state goes bankrupt or further and further into debt as we are seeing now.

Because the private sector generates the tax revenue to spend on the public sector.

@chicken2015 Sorry! Ignore my last post. I was in a really bad mood and when I reread it it looks really tone-policee and preachy. Its too late to edit it though.

I can't understand how other people can't understand everyone has different interests?

I don't agree with Trump at all and yes the people around him worry me a great deal.
But I also trust people in the USA to protest if something bad happens to speak out etc because it's a democracy.

I also understand that whilst I'm not interested or bothered by x y z other people are. And many people couldn't care less about stuff I'm passionate about and that's how we function in democracy and how we keep things on a roughly even keel.

I agree with you OP. Hearing Trump got back in felt like Brexit again. I am still so angry about Brexit, particularly since now some people who voted for it say they regret it. Trump is mad and capable of causing a lot of damage. We can only hope he mellows over time. Spend as much time as you can in nature and take pleasure from wildlife and animals. It’s hugely healing.

If anyone could develop an App to automatically mute his voice whenever he's on TV/radio/SM-count me in.
He's such a vile buffoon I can't even bear to see him/listen to him rambling on like a loon.
USA is f*cked now, but tbh-they voted him back into power so.. tough luck. They have to deal with it.
Its the orange lunatic's impact on the rest of the world & the environment that really worries me.

Frankly, I don't believe his health (physically, let alone mentally) will stand up to a full term, let alone another.
Actually think it possible he won't make inauguration, in which case you voted for President Vance.

Are you actually calling the majority of Americans this name??? Very arrogant of you. They live over there. They see what's happened under biden and don't want more of the same. Definitely not a respectful or informed opinion.

Be very aware to the fact that our media absolutely hates Trump. We are fed constant negative information about him whilst the other side is filtered and covered over.

I'm not saying Trump is all good or is in anyway perfect, but have some respect for the peoples views who actually live there and know first hand what they are talking about.

Don’t worry. He has a brilliant very special plan. And a concept of a plan. And he has the weave. We are in safe hands.
And Vance, so he’s a natalist and claimed that Zelensky was spending funding he got in luxury yachts. But he loves his mum.
It’s all fine.

ignore the fact that he frequently praises extreme and soft dictators and will have learned how not to lose another election. And Musk owns a mainstream media outlet and is working for Trump. Anyone else thinking of Hungary? And Trump will force a concession from Zelenskyy just for his vainglorious ego to say he brought about peace and he will not give a toss for the other Baltic countries Putin will target next. He has declared open season on migrants and threatens journalists with violence.

He put them in there so that they could discreetly take some for the women in their life- you know single mothers struggling to buy some for themselves. It’s nice that some people have empathy.

If you’re British dear OP, it has got nothing to do with you.

so, you have two options :-

1. Put on your jacket with extra long arms and go and sit in a nice padded room.
2. suck it up buttercup

It's hard not to feel depressed by it. I might take comfort in the fact that the fuckwits who voted him in will have to deal with the consequences of their actions, if it wasn't for the fact that the rest of us will have to deal with the impact too. There is no upside that I can think of.

And would you still call the voters “fuckwits” if they voted in Kamala?

I can assure you the American side of my family are very far from “fuckwits” as they’re doctors, nurses, accountants, biochemical engineers and manufacturing director.

just because YOU didn’t get the result YOU wanted, I ask you, WTF?

Keir Starmer and David Lammy dined with Trump and Vance for 2 hours in September and it apparently went well.
That made me feel a little better in the same way that when you’re anxious on a plane during turbulence so you look at the stewards’ faces and are reassured that they look unbothered.

It doesn’t have nothing to do with the UK and indeed everywhere. I was just listening to a programme today specifically about how the new Trump administration will affect our he UK in various ways.
To add, you sound a bit aggressive and patronising.

@truthy As for men in women's sport, when campaigning Trump showed a video of Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif, claimed he won't allow it. But has no authority over the International Olympic Committee who makes the decision. As for abortion, it was never legal in the USA to have an abortion after a viable foetus is formed at around 24 weeks. After Trump, 13 states banned abortion altogether. Even in the case of rape, risk to mother/baby's life or incest. Trump has no real solutions.

Calling voters Fuckwits is the epitome of aggressive and patronising, which required an equal and opposite response.

Every USA election requires an understanding of how it affects the UK. It’s not specific to Trump! It’s how the world works.