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I’m scared now I’ve realised this

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Pickandmixmood · 29/10/2024 11:00

I was thinking that the US public wouldn’t vote for Trump now that it is so apparent he is such a fascist. It’s terrifying to realise that they already know that and that is why they are going to vote for him.
I’m scared for the world.

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Deja321 · 30/10/2024 00:46

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Accusations. I've no idea if any of its true or just more of the smear campaign. If he's sexualy assaulted anyone then obviously I condemn that. I've listened to lots of women who have known trump for years, worked for him and say only good things about him.
Again if people said terrible things about you I wouldn't jump on any hate campaign without any proof.

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BigDecisionWorthIt · 30/10/2024 01:05

TooBigForMyBoots · 29/10/2024 22:42

Of course Trump caused it.

The reason many Republican hopefuls didn't stand against him in the candidate race was because they were afraid of his "meat grinder" campaign. It wouldn't matter who his Democratic opponent is, he'd be saying all the same things. Flooding the plains with shit is his MO.

As for his supporters, if you vote for a racist, misogynist facist then you are racist, misogynistic or stupid.🤷‍♀️

Devil's advocate, but using your logic then any democratic supporter who previously voted Clinton and plans to vote Kamala is a misogynist, rape and sexual assault enabler...
Edit: potentially child abuse enabler too. "Clinton likes them young".

There's a reason why all the stuff on Epstein has been covered up and protected for so long and enough already out there (if you dig deep enough) to show how implicated the Clinton family is into the whole thing.

Just shows how ridiculous it is attempting to gas light a whole portion of people with sweeping generalised statements.

GoodnightIrene · 30/10/2024 01:08

Waitingforfriday75 · 29/10/2024 20:12

I am furious Donald Trump keeps being compared to Hitler or the Nazi Party. They are nowhere near the same. Such comparisons not only trivialise the atrocities committed during the Holocaust but also fail to engage with the unique complexities of contemporary politics. Equating the two disregards historical context and diminishes the horror and scale of Nazi crimes. Criticising political figures should be done thoughtfully, without resorting to exaggerated analogies that only hinder constructive dialogue.

Tell that to Trump!

TooBigForMyBoots · 30/10/2024 01:36

Deja321 · 30/10/2024 00:46

Accusations. I've no idea if any of its true or just more of the smear campaign. If he's sexualy assaulted anyone then obviously I condemn that. I've listened to lots of women who have known trump for years, worked for him and say only good things about him.
Again if people said terrible things about you I wouldn't jump on any hate campaign without any proof.

Donald Trump said he sexually assaulted women.
Women say they were sexually assaulted by him.
A court of law declared he is a sex offender.
How much more proof do you need?

TooBigForMyBoots · 30/10/2024 01:37

BigDecisionWorthIt · 30/10/2024 01:05

Devil's advocate, but using your logic then any democratic supporter who previously voted Clinton and plans to vote Kamala is a misogynist, rape and sexual assault enabler...
Edit: potentially child abuse enabler too. "Clinton likes them young".

There's a reason why all the stuff on Epstein has been covered up and protected for so long and enough already out there (if you dig deep enough) to show how implicated the Clinton family is into the whole thing.

Just shows how ridiculous it is attempting to gas light a whole portion of people with sweeping generalised statements.

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That's not playing Devil's advocate. Clinton is not standing for president. Kamala Harris is. To my knowledge, she hasn't sexually assaulted anyone.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 30/10/2024 01:40

Deja321 · 30/10/2024 00:04

I didnt want a man like biden in office but I had to put up with it. The videos of him touching and sniffing those little kids made me feel physically sick but his supporters didnt seem to care. And it's not rumour its on video multiple times. I'm disgusted that anyone would vote for him after seeing those videos then think they have any moral high ground.

You're either very gullible or peddling shite....

apnews.com/article/fact-check-biden-baby-sniffing-947683316630

TooBigForMyBoots · 30/10/2024 01:42

It was Epstein who was said to "like them young" @BigDecisionWorthIt . Donald Trump said it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-called-epstein-a-terrific-guy-before-denying-relationship-with-him/2019/07/08/a01e0f00-a1be-11e9-bd56-eac6bb02d01dstory.html

Happyhappyday · 30/10/2024 02:01

Mudflaps · 29/10/2024 11:38

I've been listening to a few podcasts regarding the election, one focuses on the lies he and his team tells. It is absolutely astonishing the amount and seriousness of the lies and yet no main stream media reports this or questions him. The future of women in America is going to be very dangerous if he wins. It's also very frightening because he has said he will go after those who haven't supported him and I believe that includes other countries. His relationship with Puten and Musk is terrifying.

You’re kidding right?! Credible media, NPR, NYTimes, local newspapers all extensively fact check and call him out!!

People in the UK have no idea how America’s system of government works. Even if he gets elected, states hold the majority of power and will continue to legislate sensible policies. It is not at all like the UK where parliament holds all the power. As a woman, in a liberal state, my life is unlikely to change at all even if he is elected. The policies that are impacting women re abortion are being enacted by states, not the federal government. It will be horrible if he gets elected but he doesn’t actually have the ability to do a lot of the things people on here think a president can do. Longer term, real risks are the Supreme Court, increasing presidential power and further polarizing the country.

Fifisneighbor · 30/10/2024 02:09

Mudflaps · 29/10/2024 11:38

I've been listening to a few podcasts regarding the election, one focuses on the lies he and his team tells. It is absolutely astonishing the amount and seriousness of the lies and yet no main stream media reports this or questions him. The future of women in America is going to be very dangerous if he wins. It's also very frightening because he has said he will go after those who haven't supported him and I believe that includes other countries. His relationship with Puten and Musk is terrifying.

I share your concerns but it isn’t true that mainstream media doesn’t point out his lies. Unfortunately we have Fox News courtesy of Rupert Murdoch that spews nothing but hateful propaganda in support of Trump. There are many, many people who hate him. And there are a lot of Republicans (Trump’s party) who are coming out publicly against him. At least 50% of voters if not more are anti-Trump. Please don’t think we’re all like this.

I believe that many of his supporters are misinformed and even brainwashed. It’s a cult. I believe that most Americans don’t want this and if the voters come out and vote it will make a difference. Unfortunately low voter turnout is a big problem in this country and I think it did hurt us in 2016. Note that he lost the popular vote but won the electoral college. Voter turnout was higher in 2020 and he lost both the popular vote and the electoral college. He had full support of the republican party in previous elections and it is not the case this time around.

But we can’t be complacent!! Please send us your positive energy as we’re gonna need it!

squishee · 30/10/2024 02:49

PortobelloToad · 29/10/2024 16:26

I wouldn’t vote for someone racist and misogynistic just because I’d be financially better off. How abhorrent. Taking away women’s reproductive rights? But you pay less tax so yay!

This is exactly why DFemaleFamilyMember, who has a DD, votes Trump. Every time.

NoisyDenimShaker · 30/10/2024 02:51

Weirdly, Trump used to be pro-choice. I think he's just pandering to the religious right when he says anti-choice/forced-birth stuff. But his opinions are irrelevant now since control of abortion has been handed back to the States.

Lest we get too depressed about human nature, I do think that some people vote for him because they want minimal government in their lives and because Republican policies are traditionally favourable to small/medium businesses. It's not all racists and misogynists. At least, I hope. 🙈

marmamumma · 30/10/2024 02:53

I just can't get over the fact that the best the US has to offer is an orange buffoon or a vaguely literate lawyer. Where's the Barack Obama, the Kennedys. the FDR, the Lincoln. There's like 700 million of them and this is the best( also after 4 terms of the Bush's) It's turning itself into an embarassment. I don't know how they select their candidates but whatever they are doing they need to do the absolute opposite. A tragedy for the West. China and Russia must be gleeful.

elizabethy65 · 30/10/2024 03:06

Trump is definietly not a good choice.😥

Mumtobabyhavoc · 30/10/2024 03:21

marmamumma · 30/10/2024 02:53

I just can't get over the fact that the best the US has to offer is an orange buffoon or a vaguely literate lawyer. Where's the Barack Obama, the Kennedys. the FDR, the Lincoln. There's like 700 million of them and this is the best( also after 4 terms of the Bush's) It's turning itself into an embarassment. I don't know how they select their candidates but whatever they are doing they need to do the absolute opposite. A tragedy for the West. China and Russia must be gleeful.

Don"t doubt China, Russia, N Korea and Iran are helping.

mathanxiety · 30/10/2024 03:24

Mudflaps · 29/10/2024 11:38

I've been listening to a few podcasts regarding the election, one focuses on the lies he and his team tells. It is absolutely astonishing the amount and seriousness of the lies and yet no main stream media reports this or questions him. The future of women in America is going to be very dangerous if he wins. It's also very frightening because he has said he will go after those who haven't supported him and I believe that includes other countries. His relationship with Puten and Musk is terrifying.

Mainstream media are all over it.

His cult members dismiss mainstream media as left wing propagandists.

mathanxiety · 30/10/2024 03:28

KizzyDora · 29/10/2024 15:57

Surely people are voting for the party they feel has the best polices and not actually just for Trump?

No, it's a presidential system.

The UK is a parliamentary democracy.

mathanxiety · 30/10/2024 03:40

CustardCreams2 · 29/10/2024 17:07

Trump isn’t taking away women’s reproductive rights. He said he would leave it to the states to decide themselves re abortion.
Trump isn’t great but Harris is intellectually challenged enough that many worry no one would take her or the US seriously anymore.

Last time he was elected he packed the Supreme Court with right wing revanchists, and he will do it again if he gets the opportunity. He can promise whatever he wants about leaving it to the states but the fact remains that many issues are decided by the SC, and the composition of the SC is up to him.

The current SC has ruled not only on abortion rights / privacy but also on free speech, the environment, gerrymandering/ voting rights, affirmative action, student debt, and may well look at cases related to the January 6th attack on democracy.

mathanxiety · 30/10/2024 03:44

snoopsy · 29/10/2024 17:27

Just look at the amount of Americans who have followed religious leaders with extreme views for years. The landscape is perfect for someone of the same ilk. A nation populated by a whole swathe of brainwashed easily-led people. Its very scary.

I think a sense of perspective would go a long way here.

There are over 350 million Americans.

EasternEcho · 30/10/2024 04:09

Deja321 · 29/10/2024 19:06

Which war did Biden end? Surely you don't mean Afghanistan.
Remember Trump said march peacefully and patriotically. And the majority of the people there did just that.

Yes, I mean Afghanistan. Which war did Biden start according to you? And from the "march peacefully and patriotically" I can see that cult beliefs cannot be reasoned with, and I wouldn't waste my time. Carry on and mind how you go.

EasternEcho · 30/10/2024 05:16

Waitingforfriday75 · 29/10/2024 20:12

I am furious Donald Trump keeps being compared to Hitler or the Nazi Party. They are nowhere near the same. Such comparisons not only trivialise the atrocities committed during the Holocaust but also fail to engage with the unique complexities of contemporary politics. Equating the two disregards historical context and diminishes the horror and scale of Nazi crimes. Criticising political figures should be done thoughtfully, without resorting to exaggerated analogies that only hinder constructive dialogue.

Are you serious? You think Hitler just landed on the stage from a bolt from the sky and started the Holocaust? His rise to power was a long journey, and many aspects of that journey are scarily similar to the trajectory Trump is taking, including language, rhetoric, lies, and actions. There absolutely are reason to compare.

Michelle12A · 30/10/2024 07:59

Trump is not Hitler

G5000 · 30/10/2024 07:59

Waitingforfriday75 · 29/10/2024 20:12

I am furious Donald Trump keeps being compared to Hitler or the Nazi Party. They are nowhere near the same. Such comparisons not only trivialise the atrocities committed during the Holocaust but also fail to engage with the unique complexities of contemporary politics. Equating the two disregards historical context and diminishes the horror and scale of Nazi crimes. Criticising political figures should be done thoughtfully, without resorting to exaggerated analogies that only hinder constructive dialogue.

I on the other hand think that it's a very fair comparison.

Comparing Trump to Hitler may seem provocative, but it’s rooted in historical patterns of how authoritarian leaders rise to power. Hitler began his political career with seemingly moderate policies, tapping into national pride, economic grievances, and promises of a better future. He leveraged these appeals to gradually undermine democratic institutions, scapegoat minority groups, and build a loyalist movement that prioritized his vision over democratic principles. Trump's rhetoric and strategies echo this trajectory—targeting marginalized groups, attacking the press and judiciary, and fostering a “us vs. them” mentality that weakens democratic norms and divides society. Recognizing these parallels isn’t about alarmism; it’s about understanding that authoritarianism often grows from leaders who start with appeals to common grievances but gradually normalize radical actions that threaten democracy.
(Yes, my post was also written by ChatGPT.)

Michelle12A · 30/10/2024 08:02

Isn’t every political leader meant to promise a good future? I didn’t know Hitler was the only one…

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