Liam Payne dead

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Just heard on the news abroad he fell from the third floor off a hotel in Buenos Aires, if true it's very sad as he was so young and seemed like a lovely guy

People have been really nasty about him for a long time, taking the piss. I went on Twitter earlier (I hate the place but I have to for work) and there are loads of jokes about his death.

His ex, a lady called Maya, said that he harassed her after they split. He would call and email her and her family incessantly, which is really bad. People have mentioned this it seems but I haven’t seen that, I have seen people taking the piss out of him, how he looks, his music etc for a while. I’ve noticed this and I’m not and never have been a fan of 1D or any of their members

Sorry.

Fans took their lives when Take That split up? Is that what you're saying?

I remember reading about that when it happened.

Yes we ŵould not be able to have a global press commission. For a start it would breach many countries' constitutions protecting freedom of the press and freedom of expression. But we would be able to hold our own press to account when they doorstep grieving UK families. Not just famous people but ordinary people. What do they hope to achieve? A lot of the time it is just a photo of a distressed person telling them to fuck off or having a breakdown, rather than any type of information.

I agree could have been drug induced psychosis, if he'd been on it for days then it could be likely why he was having a meltdown.
His gf was there and went home apparently? Maybe she was sick of the behaviour. All speculation of course, just so shocking.
As someone else said, drugs alcohol and balconies are just not a good mix.

Goodness. That's terrible!

The cult of the celebrity has a lot to answer for.

@PlantHeadNo5 that's awful.

Perhaps this terrible situation, being it concerns someone so high profile might change some things.

I think a global press comission clearly wouldn't work but I do not think it absolutely necessary. A one time successful massive lawsuit would put the practice of publishing distressing photos of dead people to an end. No other publications will risk it again.

I think a new charity or industry legislation to protect the wellbeing of young people in the music, film and performing arts industries would also be a very good thing. It really ought to exist already. Perhaps something along these lines could be set up in his name.

I think ultimately, as consumers of that media, as readers we need to hold our press to higher standards.

I stopped reading the Daily Mail for about 3 years after their vile article when Stephen Gately died. I ended up drifting back but I deleted their page from my history and blocked it on my phone after the riots and seeing their culpability for the riots. Similarly, I blocked TMZ a long time ago for the way they continually harrass Britney and I feel they were directly attributed to her breakdown back in 2008.

We all need to vote with our clicks. If we can't hold them accountable any other way, then collectively as society we can only hit them where it really hurts - in their advertising revenue.

I think a new charity or industry legislation to protect the wellbeing of young people in the music, film and performing arts industries would also be a very good thing. It really ought to exist already. Perhaps something along these lines could be set up in his name

I agree @NameChangeUser183794639 I feel like anyone entering the public eye should have mandatory therapy to help them adjust.

Even GBBO had to post something before the series started that said something along the lines of "these are amateur bakers from the public who entered a competition, they did not put themselves in the public eye to be abused or harrassed". The fact that the makers even had to say this shows how parasocial social media has made people become.

Worth pointing out again that Maya Henry had issued a cease and desist letter, not a restraining order against Liam. The accusations from her that I can find online are of "persistent contact" and harassment after the end of their relationship. I've seen nothing about abuse during their relationship. If there's more, a link would be helpful.

It stands to reason that for a troubled, addicted, volatile person, the recent merciless mocking and criticism will have played a oart in yesterday's events, for sure.

It's just so sad. Was watching TMZ on Youtube and they released pictures of his hotel room. If genuine, then the poor chap was terribly troubled. I feel so sorry for his little boy.

His ex wrote a book and did an interview. There was a story about him forcing her to have a termination, but then leaving her to deal with it alone whilst he partied. She also gave details about an incident whilst he was in 1D he had spoken about previously but not mentioned names or elaborated, she made details public. At the niall show he was posing with fans and interacting alot, people were calling him out in comparison to harry who avoided the spotlight when he went to a niall show. They called him attention seeking and critised him for trying to "steal" niall limelight at his own show. It escalated alot on SM, they began to criticise his contribution to the band, as he was credited as writer on very few songs compared to the others, they dragged his solo music as harry louis and niall again write and preform their own music where as he doesnt. All i have seen these past few weeks is constant criticism of his music, his looks, his personality, how unlikeable he is etc. It all stemmed from his ex's tell all, which showed him in a bad light, and his behaviour at the Niall show.

For someone who already had poor mental health, and reoccurring suicidal thoughts, the level of negative talk on SM could have been a contributing factor to a MH crisis or an increase in drug taking destructive behaviour.

But I'd bet my last £1 theres no public #bekind movement for him. `

Can someone explain how it is legal for a news outlet to post pictures of a persons dead body before the family have even been informed ? Before the body has been officially identified? I'm just so disgusted

MIL has an apartment in Mallorca. The balcony is LOW. I didn't notice it in my early 20s, but going with children made me panic!
DD spent the summer there once and made local (Spanish) friends. One laughingly told her that summer hasn't truly begun until a British or German tourist had "balconed" !!

Scott Milks has done a lovely tribute on Radio 2.

There were l9ads of photos of Michael Mosley's body when it was found, before it had been identified. Different rules in different countries.

Demi lovato recently did a documentary about this I think- alongside some other Disney stars.

well maybe if you watch the video. I don't know, it was just about how it was really luxurious there and they were having breakfast and it was 1pm and his gf was a bit embarrassed and said yes we are losers and he said 'no'.

Anyhow, it's a terrible tragedy and clearly his life was amazing, he was unbelievably talented, but a lot happened, and there was a reason why he was on drugs and alcohol like that, and it is very very sad. :(

There's a lot of people here blaming the trauma of fame but tbh he was smoking crack in his hotel room, the pictures on SM show the paraphernalia clearly. You don't bore holes in coke cans and light tea lights cos you're making an art installation do you.
He wasn't allowed in the pool cos staff saw him intoxicated, they escorted him back to his room and he was shouting that he wanted to go in the pool and by the looks of it tried to dive from his balcony hence why he went head first.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that many people on this thread haven't done crack so let me simply say that it is not conducive to making the smartest decisions.

It's sad. But every death of this type is complex with a whole range of issues including addiction, mental illness and perhaps also fear of being further exposed for his alleged domestic violence.

It's easy to try to make sudden young death less scary by seizing on some kind of lesson that can be learned from it but honestly as an ex addict my main takeaway is to be reminded once again of how horrific class A drugs are. How they strip a person of their soul, dignity and decency.

Other than that, it's just sad. I feel greatly for his family and especially his little by.

They did. And they had to set up a helpline to help fans get through the split

They definitely set up a Samaritans helpline when Take That split. I don't recall anybody actually taking their own life though.

@GiveMeSpanakopita I think you're right in that it's a horrible combination of lots of issues.I find the whole situation really tragic.

I'm not sure what he was diagnosed with but when I watch videos of him he reminds me of loved ones with ADHD ( no I don't mean that's a cause of poor behaviour, but the continual restlessness and struggles with self awareness, making gaffes at times). Add MH challenges, drug and alcohol and then all the negative stuff in the media and on SM.

The night before there was an hour long YouTube video compilation of his cringe moments which I coincidentally watched. I can see that there is poor behaviour there. Yet, part of me felt uncomfortable regards the extent of kicking a man when he's down because there's a bit more to all this behaviour.

The ever present opinion of the media and public ( and that includes me writing here now) is almost inescapable.

Katie waissel is having a go at Simon Cowell now about Liam Paynes death. She said that Simon put profit before people's wellbeing.

I agree that they should treat popstars should be treated more like humans and less like objects. They shouldn't be worked to the bone.

However a lot of companies that people work for , put profit before people's wellbeing. So Cowell is not the only one that does it

I remember girls at school in hysterics, sobbing, crying and inconsolable.