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Liam Payne dead

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Anotherdayanothernight · 16/10/2024 22:40

Just heard on the news abroad he fell from the third floor off a hotel in Buenos Aires, if true it's very sad as he was so young and seemed like a lovely guy

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Mrsdoyler · 17/10/2024 10:14

valentinka31 · 17/10/2024 10:12

It's tragic that he was completely out of it and the staff had originally called to say please help us, he's smashed up his laptop downstairs, he's smashing up his room, there's a dangerous balcony.

It's also so sad if you watch the video he posted just a few hours earier having breakfast with his gf. He was amazingly talented but if I'm honest, in that video he didn't come across as super nice. He is a victim of drugs and money though, it's a terrible pity.

Would any of us come across as "super nice" on a video?

Most of us are stressed with life

Karmaisagod · 17/10/2024 10:15

This seems a nice tribute from the bits I can read around the paywall:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/news/liam-payne-death-one-direction-tribute/

I like this quote:

If you know someone to whom Liam's life and music resonated, try to be kind. Liam was a pop star deserving of admiration. It really should not have ended like this.

Liam Payne deserved our admiration. It shouldn’t have ended like this

The singer was vital to One Direction, the most beloved boy band of their era – but fame cost him

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/news/liam-payne-death-one-direction-tribute

NameChangeUser183794639 · 17/10/2024 10:20

cheezncrackers · 17/10/2024 10:11

But where did this destructive phase start with Liam?

When he was in OD. He talked about how he was drunk a lot of the time, because basically the level of fame he and the others were catapulted into when they were 16 was so crazy that being numb helped. That level of fame at a very young age (see also Justin Bieber) must be a total head-fuck. And no-one really helps you to navigate it. Backstage you can have anything you want - drink, drugs, girls, boys, ANYTHING. Bands are surrounded by enablers and dealers and people who can source whatever they want.

There is a really interesting book about how utterly destructive the lifestyle of being a famous musician is - it's focused on rock bands - but it holds true for any kind of extreme fame and spending long periods of time away from home and loved ones and the people that ground you and stop you behaving in an utterly self-destructive manner. It's called Bodies: Life and Death in Music by Ian Winwood. It's a sad, but fascinating read.

I will check that book out. It's a shame, I just literally cancelled my audiobook subscription two weeks ago, I had one credit left and used it on something I didn't really care about because I couldn't find anything else. This would have been excellent and I see it is read by the author himself. Thanks for the recommendation.

Disturbia81 · 17/10/2024 10:20

@Mrsdoyler You're right that not everyone dies young absolutely. My job is connected to homelessness though and I hear of a lot of young deaths from drug abuse, and famous people are more likely to have stronger addictions due to the amount of drugs they have access to. I've had 2 cousins die in their late 20s early 30s of alcoholism. But yes it's not inevitable thankfully

cheezncrackers · 17/10/2024 10:21

Mrsdoyler · 17/10/2024 10:14

I don't think it is the truth. I think a lot of addicts recover. Or maintain the problem but don't die at a young age.

I think it's pretty rare for young addicts to die

It's not rare when those people also have the pressures of fame. I can think of masses of names, just off the top of my head, actors and musicians of all types.

BunnyLake · 17/10/2024 10:21

WillitWorknow · 17/10/2024 10:04

And didn’t she meet him first when he was 14? Seems odd to me how she didn’t face criticism over that in the way Phillip Schofield did when he met someone as a teen then had a relationship with them years later

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You can’t help when you first meet someone but she didn’t groom him or give him professional favours. They got together years later. I don’t particularly like Cheryl but it’s not fair to paint her with the same brush as manipulative people like PS.

Mrsdoyler · 17/10/2024 10:24

Cheryl didn't do anything at all to liam when he was 14.

soupfiend · 17/10/2024 10:24

PrimalLass · 17/10/2024 10:05

Cheryl absolutely did face criticism.

A legal consensual relationship is no one elses business.

PrimalLass · 17/10/2024 10:30

soupfiend · 17/10/2024 10:24

A legal consensual relationship is no one elses business.

I never said it is.

WillitWorknow · 17/10/2024 10:30

Mrsdoyler · 17/10/2024 10:24

Cheryl didn't do anything at all to liam when he was 14.

Maybe it is just my personal opinion as I’d find it strange to meet someone as a child and then later on have a relationship. Either you grow up together or meet as adults I wouldn’t be able to separate meeting someone as a child when I was mid 20s then later on see them as a potential partner but that’s just me I appreciate not everyone shares the same views

DreamyJadeMoose · 17/10/2024 10:32

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Mrsdoyler · 17/10/2024 10:32

WillitWorknow · 17/10/2024 10:30

Maybe it is just my personal opinion as I’d find it strange to meet someone as a child and then later on have a relationship. Either you grow up together or meet as adults I wouldn’t be able to separate meeting someone as a child when I was mid 20s then later on see them as a potential partner but that’s just me I appreciate not everyone shares the same views

Brigit Macron did it.
(Wife of leader of France)

She used to teach a teenager

She is now married to him

Mrsdoyler · 17/10/2024 10:33

I see the hotel worker was worried about Liam being in a room with a balcony. That's sad.

ValsCupcakes · 17/10/2024 10:36

A bit off topic I guess but I had forgotten how long One Direction have been about. I have tended to think of them as a kids' band but now they are all in their 30s, and it is 17 years since Liam Payne auditioned for the X Factor. I say this with a few Harry Styles albums in my collection too. Time plays tricks on us all.

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soupfiend · 17/10/2024 10:40

PrimalLass · 17/10/2024 10:30

I never said it is.

I know?

I didnt say you did.

WillitWorknow · 17/10/2024 10:40

Mrsdoyler · 17/10/2024 10:32

Brigit Macron did it.
(Wife of leader of France)

She used to teach a teenager

She is now married to him

Each to their own I guess if it’s legal but I just couldn’t meet someone as a child for the first time then see them in another way

cattywat · 17/10/2024 10:45

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The must of! It all was reported so quickly! Fucking disgusting media !

BunnyLake · 17/10/2024 10:51

WillitWorknow · 17/10/2024 10:40

Each to their own I guess if it’s legal but I just couldn’t meet someone as a child for the first time then see them in another way

Me too. Even if it’s all above board and they are now fully adult if I knew them as a child first I just couldn’t get past that.

yeaitsmeagain · 17/10/2024 10:53

Mrsdoyler · 17/10/2024 10:33

I see the hotel worker was worried about Liam being in a room with a balcony. That's sad.

Of course they were worried, he was smashing up a hotel room completely off his face.

DalRiata · 17/10/2024 10:54

WillitWorknow · 17/10/2024 10:30

Maybe it is just my personal opinion as I’d find it strange to meet someone as a child and then later on have a relationship. Either you grow up together or meet as adults I wouldn’t be able to separate meeting someone as a child when I was mid 20s then later on see them as a potential partner but that’s just me I appreciate not everyone shares the same views

I think the majority of people feel exactly that way.

Mrsdoyler · 17/10/2024 10:55

BunnyLake · 17/10/2024 10:51

Me too. Even if it’s all above board and they are now fully adult if I knew them as a child first I just couldn’t get past that.

I disagree.

Children become adults. Why would you look at an adult like a child.

If they meet again when they're adults, who cares.

This anecdote of mine is not to do with attraction. But it is to with seeing people as adults.

I used to babysit a boy when he was seven years old. I bumped into him again recently. He was 29. He was with his girlfriend and we all stopped to have a chat. I saw him as a grown man , who was an accountant with a girlfriend. Why would I still see him as a child. People grow up

DalRiata · 17/10/2024 10:56

Mrsdoyler · 17/10/2024 10:32

Brigit Macron did it.
(Wife of leader of France)

She used to teach a teenager

She is now married to him

Yes and his family had to send him away to a different school after finding out about the relationship that had developed between them while he was still at school. Clearly they still managed to keep in touch seeing as they ended up marrying.
Bridget Macron is revolting.

BunnyLake · 17/10/2024 10:56

Mrsdoyler · 17/10/2024 10:55

I disagree.

Children become adults. Why would you look at an adult like a child.

If they meet again when they're adults, who cares.

This anecdote of mine is not to do with attraction. But it is to with seeing people as adults.

I used to babysit a boy when he was seven years old. I bumped into him again recently. He was 29. He was with his girlfriend and we all stopped to have a chat. I saw him as a grown man , who was an accountant with a girlfriend. Why would I still see him as a child. People grow up

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Would you sleep with him? Me and the other poster were talking from a physical relationship point of view, not bumping into them in the street.

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