Ever met someone you later learned had done something really bad? **Content warning: thread contains mentions of child abuse**

[user2848502016]

Just asking because a few months ago someone I worked with suddenly stopped coming to work... then we found out he had been found guilty of possessing child porn 😬
He hadn't been working with us for long so didn't know him that well but he just seemed like a nice, slightly boring middle aged man! I know you can't ever tell by looking at someone but it just made me think anyone I know could be doing anything behind closed doors.....

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I meant they didn’t have a clue until the documentary and the news interviews took place. Unable to edit in the app. Also I’m in south Lincs too and I last saw him at the funeral for his late lady companion in May this year as I am her relative! But thanks for your post!

And yet, Interpol advise not to use that phrase. www.interpol.int/en/Crimes/Crimes-against-children/Appropriate-terminology. www.interpol.int/en/Crimes/Crimes-against-children/Appropriate-terminology]].]] Maybe we could pay attention to them, even if the US doesn't?

My first boss was the loveliest, kindest man you could wish to work for. I was new to the city and he and his wife helped me settle in. Everyone at work said how lucky I was to be working for him, they all adored him.

A few decades later he is serving a long prison sentence for his huge collection of csa images, many of which were the worst category.

It’s also used in the explanatory notes to the Sexual Offences Act 2003

A dear friend went missing and was found days later having killed himself. The shock was compounded by a newspaper article about his death which included details of his forthcoming trial for possession of indecent images of children. None of his friends or family had the slightest idea. We are still in shock years later.

Young guy at work who was doing work experience got arrested and 6mo in jail for the same offence. It was his 2nd arrest. He was quiet, shy, polite, clever. An ordinary bloke.

Neighbour 3 doors away recently jailed for 9 years for attempted rape of a jogger. He'd held a knife to her throat but she managed to escape. He was a father of 3 with a 4th on the way. Another ordinary bloke, seemed completely normal.

Finance guy at work was arrested as he got off the plane coming back from holiday. Was convicted of fraud or theft. He had a secret sideline of working as a cleaner and was stealing from the companies. Quite bizarre.

Tried to balance this by thinking of a woman I know who turned out to be bad. But nope, can't think of one...

A boy I used to teach years ago is currently in prison for stabbing another former student to death. I was so shocked to hear this as I remember him as a cheeky, daft, 11 year old.

Unfortunately, I have come across a rapist and other sexual offenders (now all convicted) through the sport that I am involved in. It makes me sick to think that these people were around children and that people respected and trusted them. They had lots of people fooled.

A former employee told us he had committed armed robbery in a shop. He said he did it for his mum so she could pay her rent, but was peeved to find she used the money to buy more drugs. He was caught at the time.

I also went out with a fellow who had been part of an armed robbery group when he was much younger. Prospect for a gang. Not the type you might see photos of, I don’t think he stayed with the gang for long and we had a rocky relationship so I ended that.

Met someone who works with rehabilitating offenders and de-radicalising people. In their youth, they were radicalised and on the verge of committing acts of terrorism.

Also was friends with someone who was perfectly nice, until one day he had some sort of psychotic episode, and stabbed his girlfriend. She survived and he was sentenced to some time in prison for abh. Lost contact after he'd been in prison for about 18 months as he didn't want visits or letters.

Maybe there were circumstances that mitigated the murder? Like I don't know perhaps there was domestic abuse & the future university lecturer could no longer take it. I'm assuming that even HR have guidelines eventually allow sentences to be "spent" & understand mitigating circumstances.

I've never seen it discribed in any legal way as child pornography , including anywhere in the sexual offences act

Anyone lurking on here who has done something they deeply regret?

Sorry, what's the p word?

@AliasGrace47

I suspect you might be thinking of Richard Bock. He was never an officer, but he joined the SS because it permitted him to continue playing in a marching band. He then ended up serving in Totenkopfverbande, and testified at the Nuremberg Trials regarding day to day events at the camps, and the particulars of how precisely inmates were murdered and disposed of.

A man who was a fellow volunteer at a small local charity. Family man, well known and liked in the community, outgoing and friendly.

Transpired he had been messaging a 13 year old girl. Explicit messages and photographs.

XDown, no, I remember Bock refused to participate in the killings and was later praised by survivors. I mean Karl Wolff (not Kurt, as I thought).https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Wolff

my mum was a community care worker, and one of her charges had left Germany after the war. everyone assumed she might be Jewish, but she told my mum she wasn't, and was actually in the Hitler Youth and everything. but, as she said, it was just the done thing. as normal as being in the guides or scouts. and that if you weren't involved, your family would be under suspicion.
she didn't hold any nazi beliefs herself, but her reasons for being part of the HL make perfect sense, really. and for most of the children involved it was focused on being healthy and capable citizens. she said she hardly tells anyone that, because she would be judged harshly for just doing what everyone did then.

Not everyone, some children did rebel, and some parents too. But it was a definite risk ofc. , I was reading recently about Pope Benedict & even he was ex-Hitler Youth, though his father was anti-Nazi. His biography was examined in Israel when he was elected, & they concluded he had just participated as you would in Guides or Scouts. Sorry, a bit off topic.

Thank you @Fgfgfg

I honestly gasped at reallifeboogie's comment 🤬

Innocent guy, crossing a road on a pedestrian crossing, she was speeding and on her phone not looking… had no remorse either

Good luck with finding where they are, there is no way to monitor them! Plus there are lot of them who go straight back to their family or wife and around their kids too! It makes me so angry. I have seen first hand how it affects the families and children of these sick nonces! We'll be picking up the pieces for years to come.

My dad was friends with a man who went on to shoot dead his ex partner and their child. He came to our family home regularly for a few years when I was a teenager. Nothing of note about him at all, just a normal 40 something bloke.

Dh worked with someone who went onto to murder his wife which made national news. Dh said he was a really nice bloke so there's no telling

Indeed. The majority if his victims were working as prostitutes at the time however there were some victims who weren't. He was a monster.

The incident with the pee in the allotments is very similar to my 10 year old sister meeting a chap at the local park whilst she was waiting for her friend to join her. He asked her to keep watch whilst he had a pee in the bushes. She came home behaving strangely and told mum what had happened when she asked. The police were called and DSis got a ride in a police car when they went out all together to look for him. This was the 1970s so perhaps attitudes and police interest varied from place to place. Mind you, my DM wasn't someone a young police officer would be likely to say no to!

He killed and maimed women from a range of circumstances. Some were sex workers, some weren't.