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Ever met someone you later learned had done something really bad? **Content warning: thread contains mentions of child abuse**

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user2848502016 · 03/10/2024 20:19

Just asking because a few months ago someone I worked with suddenly stopped coming to work... then we found out he had been found guilty of possessing child porn 😬
He hadn't been working with us for long so didn't know him that well but he just seemed like a nice, slightly boring middle aged man! I know you can't ever tell by looking at someone but it just made me think anyone I know could be doing anything behind closed doors.....

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Bethany83 · 04/10/2024 20:09

wastingtimeonhere · 03/10/2024 20:23

Yep, met a lovely girl, polite and friendly. She stabbed someone in a drunken rage and did 5 yrs.
She has turned her life round and married and totally teetotal.

Hi there, did this girl stab them to death? Sorry just wondering... Good she is now teetotal

JohnTheRevelator · 04/10/2024 20:09

Newsenmum · 03/10/2024 20:30

Please don’t use the p word, it’s assault 🙈 sorry. Bugbear of mine.

And I don’t know but this kind of things always creeps me out.

What 'P' word?

RickyGervaislovesdogs · 04/10/2024 20:13

JohnTheRevelator · 04/10/2024 20:09

What 'P' word?

Child porn - implied it’s consensual. Should be child abuse. Because it is abuse.

Aliciainwunderland · 04/10/2024 20:13

CherryRipe1 · 04/10/2024 18:54

Ditto. And younger than 6th form. Surrey school?
My friend's boyfriend who was a right scream got sent down to cat A prison Parkhurst for armed robbery. His cellmate was a cannibal who ate his landlord because he hated him.

I used to live opposite that Surrey school! Why is it always the music teacher??

AliasGrace47 · 04/10/2024 20:16

Living, if it's ok to ask this, did you know from the outset that he abused the 13yo and killed her father? Or did you only find out partway? I get he has clearly turned his life around, & criminals who can be rehabilitated should be.
But was it not a bit uncomfortable?

Raveonette · 04/10/2024 20:22

A normal, decent-seeming family man, I didn't know him well, he was a long-term neighbour of a relative. He was charged with several counts of historic sexual abuse of children and is now in prison and his family rightly want nothing to do with him.

Flozle · 04/10/2024 20:40

@Dontlletmedownbruce

As far as I'm aware the crime is called possession of child pornography, so these words are used in order to describe a conviction correctly

The charge would be possession of indecent images of children.

HoppityBun · 04/10/2024 20:46

NewspaperTaxis · 04/10/2024 06:53

Is this case in the public domain? When did it happen?

Yes.

ErinBell01 · 04/10/2024 20:48

Tootsurly · 03/10/2024 21:17

I agree, but you can't say "guilty of possessing child assault". How should you express it?

"guilty of possessing images of child assault/abuse/rape"

wastingtimeonhere · 04/10/2024 20:53

Bethany83 · 04/10/2024 20:09

Hi there, did this girl stab them to death? Sorry just wondering... Good she is now teetotal

Don't think so, to be honest, she said brief details, and as her life is completely different now, I didn't pry.

Flopsythebunny · 04/10/2024 20:59

reallifeboogie · 03/10/2024 21:45

Given that he killed prostitutes, its highly unlikely.

His victims were not all prostitutes.

AllTipAndNoIceberg · 04/10/2024 20:59

AliasGrace47 · 04/10/2024 20:06

Starting, if Warr's 'girlfriend' was 13 and he was 18, that was not a relationship, it was sexual abuse. I expect that wasn't part of the charge, but it should've been.

From looking online after seeing this thread, I think he may have been younger when the incident happened — I’ve seen one reference to him being 17. So like, 18/19 when convicted but I guess that process took time.

And there was one link where the Google preview said he was 15, but when I clicked through that info was no longer on the page — I’m guessing that was a mistake but again, adds to a sense there was uncertainty around his age at the time of the incident

CleaningAngel · 04/10/2024 21:06

Sharontheodopolodous · 04/10/2024 06:14

I used to work in a nursery
This was before the days of the Internet and dbs checks
I worked alongside a bloke-normal,quiet and a bit shy
Was a bit of a shock,when about 4 weeks in,he was arrested
Turned out he'd been abusing and taking photos of the children

I work in fast food
There's a bloke that comes in and to say he gives off odd vibes is an understatement
He's a pedophile-he's known for it and has done time for it many times
And there is fuck all stopping him from coming in and smirking while gawping at the kids
Apparently he's done his time so case closed until next time he does it

I thought paedophile s were never ever allowed in the vicinity of children, even after serving a sentence 🤔

HoppityBun · 04/10/2024 21:07

GiRaFfeNeSs · 04/10/2024 08:05

When women are not consenting then it is a not pornography! It, is rape, or sexual assault. Trafficking women for the sole purpose of using them for sex is not pornography - it is unconsensual therefore illegal. It is rape, sexual abuse and making images" for financial gain.

I think it will take more than one mumsnet post to educate people and i feel very sad that women do not understand the difference.

Well, no, surely the point about pornography is that it’s some sort of image? Not the act itself

Katbum · 04/10/2024 21:10

MrsJoanDanvers · 03/10/2024 20:47

Used to be a lovely family at the dc’s school. Then I found out the very affable dad had come out of prison for money laundering for his drug dealing clients.

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This isn’t that terrible.

Rosscameasdoody · 04/10/2024 21:13

Katbum · 04/10/2024 21:10

This isn’t that terrible.

The thread title didn’t say terrible. ‘Someone that you later learned had done something really bad’. I’d say money laundering for drug dealers was up there.

redtrain123 · 04/10/2024 21:15

HoppityBun · 04/10/2024 21:07

Well, no, surely the point about pornography is that it’s some sort of image? Not the act itself

That’s how i understood it. You possess pornography (ie picture) not enact porn.

localnotail · 04/10/2024 21:15

I knew a couple while living in the US who were very ordinary, husband quite boring, both doctors, good income, nice house. Went on holiday with them and their kids. Later he shot her while she was leaving him (literally leaving the house with her stuff to move out) and then shot himself.

Katbum · 04/10/2024 21:19

Rosscameasdoody · 04/10/2024 21:13

The thread title didn’t say terrible. ‘Someone that you later learned had done something really bad’. I’d say money laundering for drug dealers was up there.

I mean, they’re synonyms. I don’t agree - I think working in advertising is morally worse than money laundering for drug dealers. Just the former is legal.

HoppityBun · 04/10/2024 21:23

betterangels · 04/10/2024 09:12

Exactly. I'm surprised people jumped to 'doesn't mean it's true'.

Ok but who says he was an SS officer in the first place? I’m Napoleon btw

LordEmsworth · 04/10/2024 21:25

Parentswriting · 03/10/2024 22:16

My late relative had a close companion in her later years who turned out to be the main suspect in the Carl Bridgewater murder case and had murdered his close friend. He now lives in a small village in south Lincolnshire and his neighbours haven't got a clue...

I very much doubt the neighbours don't know, giving interviews to the local paper about how you didn't do it tends to give you away... www.google.com/amp/s/www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/local-news/paperboy-carl-bridgewaters-murder-nothing-2018761.amp
...even if they don't watch the documentary you take part in www.channel4.com/programmes/interview-with-a-murderer. (We have telly and newspapers in south Lincolnshire).

Danielle9891 · 04/10/2024 21:26

I always remember my great aunt and uncle. I used to go over and see them quite often. My uncle was always nice and even worked at the local hospital as a porter. I found out after he died he was done for armed robbery and actually shot someone.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 04/10/2024 21:28

Katbum · 04/10/2024 21:19

I mean, they’re synonyms. I don’t agree - I think working in advertising is morally worse than money laundering for drug dealers. Just the former is legal.

Really? The advertising industry is responsible for worse than the atrocities perpetrated all over the world by organised crime gangs producing and smuggling illegal drugs?

Apart from anything else, the advertising industry and all other legal businesses contribute something to the tax system of their home countries, which goes towards public services. Criminald don't.

Katbum · 04/10/2024 21:34

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 04/10/2024 21:28

Really? The advertising industry is responsible for worse than the atrocities perpetrated all over the world by organised crime gangs producing and smuggling illegal drugs?

Apart from anything else, the advertising industry and all other legal businesses contribute something to the tax system of their home countries, which goes towards public services. Criminald don't.

Yes, I think the advertising industry is responsible for worse atrocities than drug dealers. In some countries criminals contribute a lot of philanthropy to local communities. In no country is the presence of e.g. Coca Cola enhancing anything except the enrichment of already rich people.

Rosscameasdoody · 04/10/2024 21:37

HoppityBun · 04/10/2024 21:23

Ok but who says he was an SS officer in the first place? I’m Napoleon btw

The man said it himself. But apparently because he had dementia it was deemed by several MN contributors as unlikely to be true. Which is nonsense. And you’re mocking someone suffering from a terrible and cruel disease which is quite offensive to those of us caring for relatives suffering from similar.