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Ever met someone you later learned had done something really bad? **Content warning: thread contains mentions of child abuse**

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user2848502016 · 03/10/2024 20:19

Just asking because a few months ago someone I worked with suddenly stopped coming to work... then we found out he had been found guilty of possessing child porn 😬
He hadn't been working with us for long so didn't know him that well but he just seemed like a nice, slightly boring middle aged man! I know you can't ever tell by looking at someone but it just made me think anyone I know could be doing anything behind closed doors.....

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Moier · 03/10/2024 22:05

One of my old friends family had a luxury apartment in Scarborough next to Jimmy Saville's apartment.
I would often visit with my youngest daughter and we frequently got invited round to JS's apartment for afternoon tea.
We met his minder too..
Nothing untoward ever happened and he was very friendly.. buying my daughter gifts and even made her a sunhat out of one of his hankies with four knots in each corner.
When it all came to light of what he did l was physically sick and horrified.
Luckily my daughter was only two and can't remember.
I destroyed all the photos we had taken..
She's 40 now... so was 38 years ago.

He was grooming you all.
Horrific

Alltheyearround · 04/10/2024 18:56

TheGander · 04/10/2024 18:17

I watched one of those programs @Pigeonqueen ( not the one you refer to). I think it’s a good series. Not sure I can stomach a child pornography episode though.

I have watched both series and there are no sexual offences.
Just to reassure you. Mainly violent crime, drug related drink related or fraud.
The one for fraud - man, he was a slippery customer.

GivingitToGod · 04/10/2024 18:58

Yes, I know a lovely lady who has served time for murdering her husband.
And a guy who has served time for armed robbery( associated with addiction); nice man who has turned his life around

Alltheyearround · 04/10/2024 18:59

The fraudster 'believed his own lies'. Wonder how many out there like him.

Letsgotitans · 04/10/2024 18:59

Pigeonqueen · 04/10/2024 17:55

I really don’t understand why people don’t believe this.

It isn’t a secret either. It’s all on google. I’m not breaking any guidelines etc by posting this. University of Nottingham, Criminology.

https://prisonerseducation.org.uk/story/i-went-to-uni-after-a-life-sentence/

www.nottingham.ac.uk/sociology/people/jason.warr

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I suppose it's because it's education, I thought that the same 'rules' that apply to schools would have applied to university. Thanks for sharing anyway, it was interesting read and I have been enlightened!

SunQueen24 · 04/10/2024 19:04

Paedophiles here too.

A couple I was the victim of.

One friend who went off to uni and got caught by a housemate with images of child sexual assault. He tried to tell me he was having a crisis re his sexuality and he wasn’t sure if he was gay or not. I was horrified and cut him off. He committed suicide some years later as he became totally isolated and the police actually did keep tabs on his devices. I was appalled when there was a local outcry about mental health after his suicide AND his brother did a fundraiser in his name for a mental healthy charity. Because his crimes weren’t local it wasn’t in the local news and not everyone knew his story so innocent people on Facebook were gushing with sympathy.

I wonder what it is about the human race (in particular men) that makes them offend against children - or view images of offences against children. It’s absolutely frightening.

Yourcatisnotsorry · 04/10/2024 19:07

Yes I knew a paedophile. I didn’t like
him generally as he was rude and arrogant but he had a slew of beautiful girlfriends and obviously we had no idea of his criminal/evil behaviour. Also worked with a sex offender, he was very odd so that wasn’t too much of a surprise. Also knew drug dealers who were angels in school. Sadly also know someone who seemed lovely who committed a murder. Psychotic episode. Incredibly sad. It’s not all men but these were all men.

AliasGrace47 · 04/10/2024 19:07

My gran doesn't have dementia but something w similar symptoms, according to doctor. She does have fantasy-type memories where she married her old boyfriend rather than her actual husbandor worked as a missionary in China (that was after seeing a film like that), & sometimes forgets her parents' deaths or my birth. But her overall long term memory is good, though sometimes
If it sounds plausible it may be true, or may not. Wouldn't be impossible by any means. Alternatively, maybe he did bad things but not as far as torture, and guilt made him exaggerate?

Rosscameasdoody · 04/10/2024 19:14

AliasGrace47 · 04/10/2024 19:07

My gran doesn't have dementia but something w similar symptoms, according to doctor. She does have fantasy-type memories where she married her old boyfriend rather than her actual husbandor worked as a missionary in China (that was after seeing a film like that), & sometimes forgets her parents' deaths or my birth. But her overall long term memory is good, though sometimes
If it sounds plausible it may be true, or may not. Wouldn't be impossible by any means. Alternatively, maybe he did bad things but not as far as torture, and guilt made him exaggerate?

These aren’t memories as such. Often people with dementia will be completely unaware that they are making something up. It’s called confabulation and it’s a coping strategy to help them make sense of a world they no longer connect with the way they used to. My mum, 93 and in the advanced stages of dementia, does it. But I can tell these stories apart from the ones that are true, as they have no relevance to her life. She can also watch something on TV and imagine that she is part of the story. Her recall of things that happened so long ago is more accurate than mine in some cases.

Lollipop81 · 04/10/2024 19:15

Newsenmum · 03/10/2024 20:30

Please don’t use the p word, it’s assault 🙈 sorry. Bugbear of mine.

And I don’t know but this kind of things always creeps me out.

Took the words out of my mouth. Sexual abuse pure and simple

Alltheyearround · 04/10/2024 19:15

Partner's mum tried to kill him and his sister at least twice during his childhood.

He wondered why I never let her alone with DS especially when he was small.

Because she's as mad as a box of frogs.

She had had some horrific things happen in her own life. Not surprising she's unbalanced.

localnotail · 04/10/2024 19:26

whiteboardking · 03/10/2024 23:51

That's more corporate negligence though surely?

Definitely not, its a criminal charge.

Glitterinthegrey76 · 04/10/2024 19:26

When I was a single parent living in a 2nd floor council maisonette, a much older man was housed next door to me. He was very unassuming, a little socially awkward and had a speech impediment but seemed perfectly nice.

A year or so after he moved in, I saw a couple of people visiting him who I (through my work contacts) recognised to be Police officers who work in safeguarding children. It piqued my suspicion, and I googled him - turns out he had been released from prison the year before after serving a lengthy sentence for the sexual abuse of his girlfriend's children.

itsgettingweird · 04/10/2024 19:31

cherryblossomwoman · 03/10/2024 22:25

I am such a person, and no-one would ever be able to tell! I ran away from my country and entered another country as an illegal immigrant.
I guess it's not something as horrible as others have described, and I definitely haven't hurt anyone by doing so, but it is still a criminal offence.
(I now have a legal status in that country, having been granted asylum)

If you're an asylum seeker you aren't an illegal immigrant.

You only become an illegal immigrant if you aren't granted asylum and don't leave.

But more importantly - I'm glad you found somewhere safe to live.

Pliudev · 04/10/2024 19:45

I didn’t but my 2 DSs did. My ex H (won't call him D) and his wife, fostered teenagers with troubled histories. I wasn't told about it but when I did find out, I assumed they'd had training and would be careful, since our 2 DSs visited overnight at the weekends. Years later, one of their ex long stay foster children, now a young adult, murdered an elderly disabled man by setting fire to him in his own home in order to steal a small amount of money. Reading about it in the paper, my DS said to his older brother 'Oh look. He's the one who used to show us porn when dad left him to babysit us'.

Pixiedust88 · 04/10/2024 19:45

I was seeing a guy when I was 18/19 when he appeared to be ghosting me. Cut to two months later I get a phone call off the police asking who I was, how old I was, how old I was when I met him and if he’d ever paid me for sex. Turned out he’d been caught paying two underage girls for sex

Choochoo21 · 04/10/2024 19:46

I used to work in prisons and what shocked me the most is how ‘normal’ and ‘upstanding’ standing some of these men were who turned out to be peados or women beaters/killers or violent rapists.

Honestly, it has made me view upstanding men a lot differently and I am put off by a man who is well off or has a lot of charm.

I’d rather have someone on minimum wage living on a council estate, as typically these working class men were less disturbing that the upper class ones.
Although that is not fact at all and just my opinion and IME. There were some working class men who were just as vile.

I lived on an estate that were full of peados and my mum used to go mad whenever I’d go into their homes.
Funnily enough they all had friendly dogs which us kids would beg to play with.
We’d offer to walk it and then take it home to them and stay for a while.
Fortunately nothing happened to me but others weren’t so lucky.
It was only as I got older, did I realise why my mum would be so frantic about it.

Smam · 04/10/2024 19:49

I found child porn on the family laptop, it belonged to my then partner who I had 2 children with, I called the police immediately and he was arrested, everyone who knew him was shocked.

pomers · 04/10/2024 19:58

MostlyCloudy1 · 03/10/2024 20:58

i used to get lifts home from my colleagues husband. He seemed fine, chatty, friendly. This went on for a while until she started having alternative arrangements home.

Turned out he was being outed as an absolute fucking monster, a serial child abuser and had abused and controlled his wife. I just thought she was shy, quiet and meek by nature.

Out of no where he was all over the news. He was jailed for life.

I grew up in Bradford, I was at school during this period. I have heard so many people tell a version of this story. Total urban myth

ManchesterLu · 04/10/2024 19:58

Newsenmum · 03/10/2024 20:30

Please don’t use the p word, it’s assault 🙈 sorry. Bugbear of mine.

And I don’t know but this kind of things always creeps me out.

Wtf? I agree that it IS child abuse, but you can't police other people's words for goodness sake.

CleaningAngel · 04/10/2024 19:59

OldieButBaddie · 03/10/2024 20:35

what does this mean?

I thought same!

Balloonhearts · 04/10/2024 20:01

Yep. He seemed perfectly normal if a bit on the sleazy side with shocking personal hygiene. He was planning to kidnap, rape and kill someone. Even bought the stuff to do it. Never been so glad to not be hot.

CrowleyKitten · 04/10/2024 20:05

Hadjab · 04/10/2024 11:48

I wrote a letter to him when I was 14 - I wanted to sing with Duran Duran. My mum point blank refused to let me post the letter, her exact words were "No, I don't trust him, there's something not right about him."

I can't believe how many people were shocked when it came out. there was OBVIOUSLY something creepy about him, it was just a matter of time until what that something creepy was came out. he always gave me the creeps.
bless her, one of my friends, as a child, wrote to Jim'll fix it asking to meet Gary Glitter 😱
that could have gone SO badly.

AliasGrace47 · 04/10/2024 20:06

Starting, if Warr's 'girlfriend' was 13 and he was 18, that was not a relationship, it was sexual abuse. I expect that wasn't part of the charge, but it should've been.

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