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Young women's boundaries have been eroded so much

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crochetmonkey74 · 24/09/2024 08:01

I'm currently working on an outreach programme for new adults (women only group)
My remit is to work with them on relationships guidance. This week the session has been romantic and sexual relationships. I've been really surprised by their resignation that certain things , although they don't want to do them, can't be disagreed with as that would be "kink shaming."
Several of then are ND so see everything in very binary terms so when I'm working with them and saying some things are more extreme and wouldn't be part of a normal or average sex life, they are very quick to pull me up on the word normal. It's very worrying how little say they think they have in a sexual relationship anymore. I've got a great team and we've all been chatting about how to tackle and redirect, but just thought it was interesting to share/chat about

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Ihateboris · 24/09/2024 19:55

crochetmonkey74 · 24/09/2024 11:27

One of the biggest issues is the normalification of acts that are not really average.
Like others, I have been sexually active for most of my life with several partners and some casual ones. Never once was I asked for or encouraged into anal (I'm late 40s) None of my friends of the same age were either. It just wasn't on the table. Neither is the gagging stuff or the hair pulling.
The labelling of it as normal because some people enjoy it (do they? or do they only see this 'enjoyment' in porn?) and the fact that nothing is allowed to be criticised if it is someones 'choice' have led to today.
There's a massive blind spot around how women's so called 'choices' are made from a misogynistic cesspit of the way young women are socialised.

This is a shocking read regarding the prevalence of anal sex (it's a Guardian article). So depressing..

www.theguardian.com/society/2022/aug/11/rise-in-popularity-of-anal-sex-has-led-to-health-problems-for-women

FinallyHere · 24/09/2024 20:00

BlondiBleach · 24/09/2024 09:47

OP, suggest the girls mirror the behaviour back to their partners:
eg
You want anal? Let’s try it on you first. What size strap on should I use?

You want choking?Let’s try it on you first. how long shall I restrict your breathing?
etc etc

my strong suspicion is their male partners will have no qualms about refusing, which will help adjust their mindsets, showing these girls that people can refuse (& that they’ve been fed a lot of nonsense regarding “kink-shaming”)

This.

Absolutely this.

MaidOfSteel · 24/09/2024 20:10

lifeturnsonadime · 24/09/2024 09:40

Completely agree, what we are seeing is the impact of Queer Theory. Normalisation of hardcore porn and the erosion of all boundaries for girls which is a product of trans activism, plus the normalisation of sexualised behaviours for children (drag queen story time). These things are all linked and deliberate.

It is very difficult to teach our daughters to have boundaries when we & they are (at best) accused of pearl clutching or more likely accused of bigotry, for trying to defend those boundaries.

I absolutely agree. We are seeing the attempted erasure of all sexual boundaries.

I think someone suggested this article on MN a while ago; I found it clearly explained Queer Theory and its aims.

www.city-journal.org/article/the-real-story-behind-drag-queen-story-hour

MaidOfSteel · 24/09/2024 21:43

I've just read a depressing article on the Telegraph website, about the massive increase in numbers of women requesting labiaplasty surgery, possibly partly driven by the perfect porn look addicted men seem to want, and also how it so closely relates to FGM. Self-esteem issues in women, worsened or caused by porn culture, is driving some to extremes and I find it horrifying.
I'll add a link but, sorry, it is behind a pay wall.
www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/women-and-girls/designer-vagina-surgeries-turn-harley-street-into-fgm-hub/

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