Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Chat

Join the discussion and chat with other Mumsnetters about everyday life, relationships and parenting.

If you can’t work due to health problems but don’t get PIP what do you do??

184 replies

Endometriosisproblems · 18/09/2024 19:52

I don’t understand the UC system for this - if you don’t get PIP can you still get LCWRA?

I can’t work due to severe gynae issues and although I could get a GP letter and have seen a consultant/ had some surgeries I’m now discharged as all the other treatments are only suitable if my family is complete and it isn’t (plan is another baby if that’s even possible then hysterectomy). So basically I have to get re referred when ready for hysterectomy

Can my GP just keep issuing notes is that the only way ?

OP posts:
Chipsintheair · 18/09/2024 23:59

I'd definitely try Citizens' Advice for help working out whether you're entitled to any benefits while you're too ill to work. Various factors are taken into account, such as any partner/spouse living with you, savings, N.I. contributions, then of course you'd need medical evidence and it's best to get help from Citizens' Advice or another organisation filling in application forms as they can be complicated. P.I.P. is hard to get, but you might be entitled to other, temporary, sickness benefits.

NoUseForAN4me · 18/09/2024 23:59

Endometriosisproblems · 18/09/2024 23:58

I recently had some fibroids removed they were the only thing I was told could cause a problem with a future pregnancy. With the issues I have it’s the getting pregnant that may be difficult

Ah okay, apologies for prying but thank you for answering. Good luck to you, you have my sympathies, it must be really tough to live with. X

Endometriosisproblems · 19/09/2024 00:00

rubytubeytubes · 18/09/2024 23:57

Then you would be able to work surely whilst you were pregnant?

Not in the job I was doing up till recently , potentially another job but I doubt anyone would want to employ someone on such a short term but it would be a possibility

OP posts:

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about these subjects:

Thistooshallpass24 · 19/09/2024 00:00

@Davros someone else has helped with details.
I've very obviously not gone into detail, regarding savings, property, marital status, possible partners income etc

blackheartsgirl · 19/09/2024 00:01

namechanger458 · 18/09/2024 23:30

@thebaddist you are talking like you know this person, you are seriously acting so vile.

Honestly what difference does it make to your life if this person claims benefits, wins the lottery, has 20 children? Seriously you can spout about your taxes but this person would not even make a penny in difference to your taxes, yet you have real venom towards them.

I genuinely cannot imagine being this vile towards someone where I had no clue about their life but presume to know everything, its really quite sad.

I’ve reported the baddist. Quite possible one of the nastiest posters I’ve come across on MN for a long time.

whatever your personal opinion is there is no need for vile personal attacks. Horrible

TwitchyJerk · 19/09/2024 00:04

Endometriosisproblems · 18/09/2024 23:12

Yes it’s not like I’ve been unemployed before it’s just reached a point where it’s affecting my health so much that I can’t work at the moment . I’ve contributed through taxes in the past and I will again in the future . I’m just not able to now and I have set myself a time frame in which I’ll ttc and if not then I’ll have the surgery and then get back to work after . It’s a huge decision and the consultant made it clear it’s an option but due to age it has to be that I’m sure my family is complete

If you have worked 6 months out of the last 2 years you can apply for contribution based ESA.

You will need to provide sick note. You will get £90/ week in the work related group unless you are assessed to be unable to work, and put in the support group (unable to work) then will get £130/week.

The £90 group pays for 1 year but the £130 group will continue as long as you are too ill to work.

Davros · 19/09/2024 00:11

Thistooshallpass24 · 19/09/2024 00:00

@Davros someone else has helped with details.
I've very obviously not gone into detail, regarding savings, property, marital status, possible partners income etc

You don't need to do any of that for PIP and you don't need to buy your own mobility scooter or pay for other adaptations, regardless of your personal situation

Thistooshallpass24 · 19/09/2024 00:12

When I've looked at PIP I've got nowhere, so I bought the things I needed

greenrollneck · 19/09/2024 00:13

Hi OP

Could I suggest you spend time studying your condition and the solutions available to you more than the benefits, the benefits will be a tricky one to navigate but fingers crossed you can get something.

Only reason I'm posting is that some of your endometriosis cures are NHS bullshit that GPs are telling you - a hysterectomy will not cure your endometriosis, but yes it will stop the bleeding and adenomyosis.

But so will the mini pill or the coil.

Please don't let them inject you with zoledex or any other drug to put you into menopause, to stop bleeding the side effect are bloody horrendous, and they should not be using this as a "cure" even short term there are risks with bone density issues. Read more before agreement to anything like this.

The gold standard for you endometriosis surgery is wide excision surgery, read about this vs ablation. Essentially ablation is like laser treatment and wide excision is getting the endometriosis out at its root. You really don't want ablation, you'll be in and out of surgery's for years, you can wait and insist on a wide excision specialist.

So minor things you can do to help in the short term are taking antihistamines, low inflammatory diet and exercise. (Just walking helps) I do understand the pain and how crippling this disease is.

Good luck with future babies! It is possible at your age I did manage to conceive my 2nd even with extensive endometriosis.

spikeandbuffy · 19/09/2024 00:17

@greenrollneck even before surgery? My consultant (before he went off sick) has advised temporary menopause to shrink(?) the endometriosis before they do the excision

I'm under a specialist accredited endometriosis centre and it'll be with an endometriosis surgeon and a colorectal one

alwaysnapping · 19/09/2024 00:17

blackheartsgirl · 19/09/2024 00:01

I’ve reported the baddist. Quite possible one of the nastiest posters I’ve come across on MN for a long time.

whatever your personal opinion is there is no need for vile personal attacks. Horrible

me too.

BooneyBeautiful · 19/09/2024 00:18

Endometriosisproblems · 18/09/2024 23:01

Yes my partner works full time but I can’t manage to anymore as have been really unwell for quite a while, I just wasn’t sure how it all works. I’d had a look at benefits calculators but then saw that they are apparently unreliable

Try the turn2us benefits calculator. That's very good. If you need help with personal care and/or mobility problems, you may well be entitled to claim PIP. Take a look at the eligibility criteria.

Regarding your endometriosis, I know someone who has this condition and she was advised to have a second child as it does seem to keep the symptoms at bay for a couple of years. She had her second child in July so fingers crossed she will be fine for a while. Prior to this, she would often be in terrible pain.

BettyBardMacDonald · 19/09/2024 00:22

I'd say let your partner support you. I don't think it's fair to expect taxpayers to support someone who has rejected the obvious medical solution to her issues.

ViciousCurrentBun · 19/09/2024 00:24

In all this if so unwell but with hopefully a cure how do you cope with your current child? Some people have permanent disabilities and all the treatment, love and positivity in the world cannot help them.Pain is unbelievably draining, I have been there though other physical chronic pain. Consider the childhood of the child you have right now.

Isometimeswonder · 19/09/2024 00:24

TeaAndCakeFTW · 18/09/2024 23:14

Well yes, my body failed me completely, with no children, let alone in the ability to have MORE, and I resent my taxes being used for people that reckon they can't work but should be funded to pop out babies.

Totally agree. I have the same condition as OP, and have worked through it. No baby, no benefits.
@Endometriosisproblems not everyone can get what they want, it's not a "right".

adriftinadenofvipers · 19/09/2024 00:25

notanothernamechange24 · 18/09/2024 22:54

Ffs people do you not realise how big a decision it is to have a hysterectomy!!!
Do you have any idea what it's like being utterly crippled by your own reproductive system? Do you have any idea what it's like to have to give up on having kids because your body is failing you.
Good this forum makes me angry sometimes

Some people here are completely incapable of empathy! My take on this post is that, if the OP's gynae issues were resolved, which can only be done when she has completed her family, she would be able to work??

Why on earth should people have to give up their dream of a child because of ill health? Is it too much to ask to be able to have TWO children, really??? OP isn't trying for a 14th or something!

Some of you should hang your heads in shame, you really should!

@Endometriosisproblems ignore the limited in understanding and do what you need to do. Speak to CAB re benefits and get pregnant as soon as you can, so you can complete your little family, have the hysterectomy and get on with your life. I wish you the best x

ClairDeLaLune · 19/09/2024 00:26

There’s a lot of clueless people on this thread. OP is in a short term position of not being able to work, she isn’t a long term “scrounger” off the taxpayer. When she has a hysterectomy and has recovered from it the bleeding and anaemia will stop and she’ll be able to work again.

The same thing happened to my friend, who had endo just about everywhere you can have it, it was beyond grim. She had her ovaries removed too, so she went into immediate menopause and was given HRT. It sorted her out really well, she was perfectly able to look after her baby and has worked perfectly fine at a job ever since.

I think it’s possible to have a hysterectomy at the same time as giving birth if you have a caesarean, which is probably the most likely option for you.

Good luck with having another baby OP. Sorry I’m no help on the benefits side, just wanted to offer support with the other stuff.)

adriftinadenofvipers · 19/09/2024 00:31

TeaAndCakeFTW · 18/09/2024 23:14

Well yes, my body failed me completely, with no children, let alone in the ability to have MORE, and I resent my taxes being used for people that reckon they can't work but should be funded to pop out babies.

That's very sad but it's not the fault of the OP or anyone like her.

CurrentHun · 19/09/2024 00:31

OP please don’t let anyone minimise this or shame you for wanting to make choices about your family. I would be that those people have had that freedom themselves.

adriftinadenofvipers · 19/09/2024 00:34

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

You are totally ignoring the nature of the condition! Your posts are just awful. Do you have no compassion?!

adriftinadenofvipers · 19/09/2024 00:35

Isometimeswonder · 19/09/2024 00:24

Totally agree. I have the same condition as OP, and have worked through it. No baby, no benefits.
@Endometriosisproblems not everyone can get what they want, it's not a "right".

Not everyone experiences this condition in the same way. You should consider yourself fortunate that you have been able to work.

spikeandbuffy · 19/09/2024 00:42

@adriftinadenofvipers true but i don't really have a choice. My pain is excruciating and the bleeding is bad but I don't have anyone else so all the bills fall onto me
It's either work or lose my home so I prioritise work over everything else. Some days that's finishing work, eating a piece of toast and going to bed and spending the weekends sleeping because of the fatigue

adriftinadenofvipers · 19/09/2024 00:44

spikeandbuffy · 19/09/2024 00:42

@adriftinadenofvipers true but i don't really have a choice. My pain is excruciating and the bleeding is bad but I don't have anyone else so all the bills fall onto me
It's either work or lose my home so I prioritise work over everything else. Some days that's finishing work, eating a piece of toast and going to bed and spending the weekends sleeping because of the fatigue

I'm so sorry you are experiencing that and I hope your gynae has a plan in place to help you x

LumpyandBumps · 19/09/2024 00:47

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

I am fairly certain that OP is equally glad that you’re not her daughter.
Your comments are vile.

spikeandbuffy · 19/09/2024 00:56

@adriftinadenofvipers no. There is no consultant for me currently as he is off sick
If OP waits it could be a long time - in my area it's a year wait for a first appointment, I believe wales can be 7 years