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If you can’t work due to health problems but don’t get PIP what do you do??

184 replies

Endometriosisproblems · 18/09/2024 19:52

I don’t understand the UC system for this - if you don’t get PIP can you still get LCWRA?

I can’t work due to severe gynae issues and although I could get a GP letter and have seen a consultant/ had some surgeries I’m now discharged as all the other treatments are only suitable if my family is complete and it isn’t (plan is another baby if that’s even possible then hysterectomy). So basically I have to get re referred when ready for hysterectomy

Can my GP just keep issuing notes is that the only way ?

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Endometriosisproblems · 18/09/2024 23:44

Velvetandgold · 18/09/2024 23:43

You're welcome

Yes thankyou for your help and advice

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namechanger458 · 18/09/2024 23:46

@thebaddist again more insults, more nasty comments with no basis. Nothing about the OPs posts say anything about their intelligence level.

I wont continue to reply to you, I imagine all your posts will be zapped in the morning anyway because its just not necessary. You clearly lack the ability to make a point without throwing ridiculous insults around. Several people have made a point without resulting to such nastiness, its a shame you fail to see how ridiculous you sound.

I seriously hope you learn to channel your anger into something productive.

izimbra · 18/09/2024 23:46

thebaddist · 18/09/2024 22:45

I agree x10. Why are you planning children if you’re reliant on benefits for the foreseeable? It’s a poor decision. Please for the planned childs sake. Don’t bring another child into a life of poverty. What about if child wants to go to uni in 18 years? How will you fund this? PIP? Or for your child to also rely on the government (tax payers)?

Mumsnet - the place where other women tell you to get sterilised so you can work and not claim benefits. 🙄

Good grief this place has got hateful.

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Chipsintheair · 18/09/2024 23:48

thebaddist · 18/09/2024 22:45

I agree x10. Why are you planning children if you’re reliant on benefits for the foreseeable? It’s a poor decision. Please for the planned childs sake. Don’t bring another child into a life of poverty. What about if child wants to go to uni in 18 years? How will you fund this? PIP? Or for your child to also rely on the government (tax payers)?

I don't think it's ethical to say disabled people shouldn't have children.

C8H10N4O2 · 18/09/2024 23:49

izimbra · 18/09/2024 23:46

Mumsnet - the place where other women tell you to get sterilised so you can work and not claim benefits. 🙄

Good grief this place has got hateful.

I never assume the sex or good faith of posters...

thebaddist · 18/09/2024 23:49

izimbra · 18/09/2024 23:46

Mumsnet - the place where other women tell you to get sterilised so you can work and not claim benefits. 🙄

Good grief this place has got hateful.

Where did i say get sterilised

Endometriosisproblems · 18/09/2024 23:49

I may not even be eligible I wasn’t sure I was just trying to find out, I’d seen elsewhere that the online calculators aren’t reliable and don’t take into account some circumstances.

In all honesty I see this as just a blip and I’m hoping that either way in the next 12-18 months I’ll know what I’m doing as I enjoy working and want to get back to work I just also want to complete my family if I can .

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Endometriosisproblems · 18/09/2024 23:50

thebaddist · 18/09/2024 23:49

Where did i say get sterilised

I’m concerned that you forgot the ?

😆

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InWalksBarberalla · 18/09/2024 23:50

Endometriosisproblems · 18/09/2024 23:41

Being pregnant then breastfeeding after stops all the symptoms as stops my periods , being at work doesn’t have the same effect ! If I was lucky enough I would just have a hysterectomy afterwards and then recover and go back to work then

Please, please get second and even third opinions on treatment options before going straight to a hysterectomy which yes will stop the bleeding but won't necessarily stop the pain as the endo migtrates to the bowel etc. And a hysterectomy has its own set of side effects. An ablation or even a mirena would be worth trialling first to stop the bleeding with way less extreme side effects before going straight to a hysterectomy.

BanksysSprayCan · 18/09/2024 23:50

Ignore the nastiness and I would suggest you book an appointment with your local citizens advice. Their advisors can help you work out what, if anything you might be entitled to.

thebaddist · 18/09/2024 23:50

Endometriosisproblems · 18/09/2024 23:50

I’m concerned that you forgot the ?

😆

Sorry shall I use a finger space before I put it like this ?

Josette77 · 18/09/2024 23:51

Endometriosisproblems · 18/09/2024 23:43

Although I think adoption is a wonderful thing it’s not for us. I would like a second child of my own and if I can’t then we are very blessed to have our dd

I have endometriosis and am infertile. My biological babies never made it out of the womb.

My beautiful adopted son is 100% " my own ".

Language around these things matter. I'm also adopted.

thebaddist · 18/09/2024 23:52

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C8H10N4O2 · 18/09/2024 23:52

InWalksBarberalla · 18/09/2024 23:50

Please, please get second and even third opinions on treatment options before going straight to a hysterectomy which yes will stop the bleeding but won't necessarily stop the pain as the endo migtrates to the bowel etc. And a hysterectomy has its own set of side effects. An ablation or even a mirena would be worth trialling first to stop the bleeding with way less extreme side effects before going straight to a hysterectomy.

Agree this is a key point - hysterectomy will guarantee no future children but may not provide the solution needed, especially for the pain.

That said, odds are that even if the OP went back now and said "yes" it would take longer than the expected TTC to get the surgery.

Endometriosisproblems · 18/09/2024 23:52

Josette77 · 18/09/2024 23:51

I have endometriosis and am infertile. My biological babies never made it out of the womb.

My beautiful adopted son is 100% " my own ".

Language around these things matter. I'm also adopted.

Sorry I didn’t mean to be offensive in any way at all, I have also suffered losses so understand. I should have said biological rather than own and I will try to be more careful with my language in future if I talk about subject again ❤️

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Caitcheshire · 18/09/2024 23:52

Just throwing this out there - I have pcos, severe endo and adenomyosis. For me, it was game over as far as fertility was concerned, I was 30 without children. I had a coil fitted to stop the periods because I simply didn’t stop bleeding. Id flood daily for three weeks, feint, spend half an hour sat in the loo because I couldn’t walk back to bed without flooding a pad, get end stage labour pains because of what is affected by the extra tissue, a week of heavy bleeding and then back to flooding. It took six months after years and years of appalling periods to be diagnosed. I worked as I have a mortgage to pay, not playing the martyr there but explaining how I’m aware of how it can be.

I’m now 14 years down the line at 44, my only fix (and the fix that has been agreed was needed since diagnosis) is a hysterectomy and they won’t do it at my age because of potential future complications (menopause, osteoporosis, prolapses etc). So unless it becomes medically necessary (a growth gets too big etc), it’s not happening and I manage the pain and symptoms.

i really don’t think you’ll find it as easy as saying ‘right, hysterectomy now please’. I’m sure they are raising it as an option/need now, but the reality can be different.

Chipsintheair · 18/09/2024 23:53

TeaAndCakeFTW · 18/09/2024 23:23

If you can't support yourself through a period of unemployment/sickness, how can you afford/support another child/maternity leave/feed and clothe your existing family? Or are you planning on spending the first 4 or 5 years of your latest child's life on benefits too?

The OP has explained all of this in detail. And she really shouldn't have been asked to justify or explain her private life to anyone.

Endometriosisproblems · 18/09/2024 23:54

C8H10N4O2 · 18/09/2024 23:52

Agree this is a key point - hysterectomy will guarantee no future children but may not provide the solution needed, especially for the pain.

That said, odds are that even if the OP went back now and said "yes" it would take longer than the expected TTC to get the surgery.

They did mention ablation but said it anyone may not work and I’d probably end up needing a hysterectomy anyway which I can see makes sense I think .

They offered a progesterone medication I can’t remember the name of now but again it’s not suitable if ttc

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Endometriosisproblems · 18/09/2024 23:56

Thankyou for all the helpful advice on here I do appreciate it

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Nonametonight · 18/09/2024 23:57

Endometriosisproblems · 18/09/2024 23:49

I may not even be eligible I wasn’t sure I was just trying to find out, I’d seen elsewhere that the online calculators aren’t reliable and don’t take into account some circumstances.

In all honesty I see this as just a blip and I’m hoping that either way in the next 12-18 months I’ll know what I’m doing as I enjoy working and want to get back to work I just also want to complete my family if I can .

Benefit calculators are pretty good provided you're careful about how you answer the questions. Read them through properly, and read the help text if you're not sure.

rubytubeytubes · 18/09/2024 23:57

Endometriosisproblems · 18/09/2024 23:03

When I was pregnant with #1 I was actually really well as obviously no periods ! If I’m lucky enough to have a second then it will be the same and I would have a hysterectomy at some point afterwards. I have severe endometriosis, adenomyosis, I’ve have surgery for the endo and recently had fibroids and polyps removed . I also severely anaemic and had to have an iron infusion recently

Then you would be able to work surely whilst you were pregnant?

NoUseForAN4me · 18/09/2024 23:57

OP; is another pregnancy safe? I don’t mean that harshly, just genuinely curious of, with the issues you’re experiencing, carrying a baby full term will be safe?

Davros · 18/09/2024 23:58

Thistooshallpass24 · 18/09/2024 22:32

Do you have savings?
Do you own your house?
I don't understand how benefits work, but I can't work, but own property I don't think I'm entitled to any help.
Bought my own mobility scooter, mobility aids, reconfigured how I live etc
Citizens advice? Social worker? Womens charity? Dr? Job center?

You have done it wrong. The info is out there.

Endometriosisproblems · 18/09/2024 23:58

NoUseForAN4me · 18/09/2024 23:57

OP; is another pregnancy safe? I don’t mean that harshly, just genuinely curious of, with the issues you’re experiencing, carrying a baby full term will be safe?

I recently had some fibroids removed they were the only thing I was told could cause a problem with a future pregnancy. With the issues I have it’s the getting pregnant that may be difficult

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NoUseForAN4me · 18/09/2024 23:58

Caitcheshire · 18/09/2024 23:52

Just throwing this out there - I have pcos, severe endo and adenomyosis. For me, it was game over as far as fertility was concerned, I was 30 without children. I had a coil fitted to stop the periods because I simply didn’t stop bleeding. Id flood daily for three weeks, feint, spend half an hour sat in the loo because I couldn’t walk back to bed without flooding a pad, get end stage labour pains because of what is affected by the extra tissue, a week of heavy bleeding and then back to flooding. It took six months after years and years of appalling periods to be diagnosed. I worked as I have a mortgage to pay, not playing the martyr there but explaining how I’m aware of how it can be.

I’m now 14 years down the line at 44, my only fix (and the fix that has been agreed was needed since diagnosis) is a hysterectomy and they won’t do it at my age because of potential future complications (menopause, osteoporosis, prolapses etc). So unless it becomes medically necessary (a growth gets too big etc), it’s not happening and I manage the pain and symptoms.

i really don’t think you’ll find it as easy as saying ‘right, hysterectomy now please’. I’m sure they are raising it as an option/need now, but the reality can be different.

Gosh, I’m so sorry to hear what you’ve been through. And are still suffering.

I hope you find peace soon. X

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