Trump Harris debate

[LawrieForShepherdsBoy]

I couldn’t sleep so figured I’d get out of bed to watch.

Anyone else? I have moved bedding to the sofa. Cat has joined me - coming out in support of the cat ladies.

About to get a cup of tea. I was about to join Pod Save America community so could access their discord but figured I’d try here first.

Priceless!😄😄

Sadly, many do. Just watched a programme where an American woman patrols the Mexican border with a herd of thugs, trying to scare them
She live-streams this public service.

Pet dogs and cats. The man’s bonkers. Trouble is, so are most of his supporters.

That programme was scary.
Those fucking Mayflower separatists!

Genuinely, how do you have a policy discussion with Trump?

@CurlewKate the big things for me in this election will be Ukraine, Economy, and gun control.

Seems to be heavy-handed on both, Ukraine and gun control. Economic policies sound expensive at this point.

@JackGrealishsAliceBand I don't particularly like Trump. I don't think he's a particularly nice person, and I don't trust him however I don't really trust Kamala either. She just isn't inspiring confidence in me.

@CurlewKate it's impossible to have a sensible policy discussion with Trump as you never get an answer. But equally Kamala seems to be flip-flopping all over the place so I've got no idea what she's actually going to do.

Interesting that it came out last night he didn't actually seem to understand the tariffs that he's always banging on about.

There are lots of economists who have weighed in on her economic plan - it's all out there for the finding. For example, Goldman Sachs have endorsed hers over his, and the Wharton School (despite what Trump said last night) says this:
https://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/issues/2024/8/26/trump-campaign-policy-proposals-2024
and this:
https://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/issues/2024/8/26/harris-campaign-policy-proposals-2024

But if you're undecided at this point, I don't think anything on paper is going to decide it for you. Surely, the real answer is, if you were happy with him last time, and are willing to accept a supersized Trump agenda, you'll be happy with him again?

Just caught up on the debate…Harris’ performance was 🔥🔥🔥

I thought Harris was great, she handled him perfectly

The aim is for her to win over those undecided voters, if undecided on who would be the most capable President before last night I think there is a clear answer.

Trump supporters will continue to support him regardless of his performance or what he said/says between now and election day. As he said back in 2016 "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters,” he knows the power he has with his supporters and Harris understand this too

Yes, so what is your problem with it?

I'd have taken his ass to court for defamation of character. He'd settle it like he does all the things he's sued for, because he's guilty in every case.

Folks, after that debate, I expect a new culinary delicacy to soon hit restaurants in all the blue states; smoked orange.

Well the day I vote for what a billionaire celebrity tells me. Never because I am not a moron. This is so ridiculous and talk about a cult he,he.. right! Got it.

Ironic, given that Trump is a (alleged) billionaire celebrity. At least Swift earned her wealth.

I don't know why his opponents don't ever ask him to prove anything he's saying. Like the Kamala pays people to attend rallies thing. Just ask him to prove it! He can't back up 99% of what he says. Someone's going to ask me to prove it aren't they...

I don't know if you read her post, but she's very well spoken. Maybe you could learn something?

And I don't think the point is that people need to vote for her choice, it's that the Trump camp used her name and image falsely, which is not ok, so she's speaking out and raising awareness. Everyone has the right to vote based on their beliefs, as she's doing, and I think it's great that she's encouraging legions of young women to register and vote.

@dottiehens did you miss the bit where it was explained she had to defend herself due to the AI generated media suggesting she supported the orange one ?

If you read what she posted, it is very articulate and suggests people make up their own minds.

‘Even with Trump insisting to have won the debate “by a lot”,* *Republicans were virtually unanimous that Trump had come off second best in a series of exchanges that saw the vice-president deliberately bait him on his weak points while he responded with visible anger.’ 🥹

Among many issues I could mention, Project 2025, the overturn of Roe vs. Wade, climate change denial along with ‘drill baby drill”, and trump’s admiration for orban, putin, and the fat north korean dictator (his name escapes me) do not inspire confidence in me.

I know that unlike trump, Kamala Harris has no intention to ‘suspend’ the constitution, nor to embed herself as a dictator, nor to question election results in an effort to overthrow the voter’s will, nor to coerce states to manufacture more votes for her, nor to throw out results of the election and have electors certify the loser instead. Those points by themselves are ample reason to vote for her.

Beautifully put, @LuckyPeonies, I wish I'd been able to formulate my thoughts as well as you have done.

The very fact that the world leaders that Trump refers to are and with who he has supposedly such great relationships are: Putin, Xi..... and Orban Tells you everything about the company he keeps and the attributes he admires.

"Let me just tell you about world leaders. Viktor Orban, one of the most respected men -- they call him a strong man. He's a tough person. Smart. Prime Minister of Hungary."