If you voted Labour in July, have you changed your mind?

[notgettinganyyounger]

Are you happy with the changes so far, and still backing Starmer?

The car companies will probably have to invent a kind of a ' black box' to measure the miles done I suppose ( and charge us to have it fitted)

Anybody had to be better than the Tories IMO.

I feel like they dealt with the riots pretty well.

@notgettinganyyounger I didn't vote for Labour, but I did vote tactically to get the Conservatives out. I am generally centrist, I like some Conservative policies, and some Labour. I would probably say that I lean more towards the Conservative view of self sufficiency. I have really been politically homeless for years as I haven't liked either for at least a decade, probably more.

At least Starmer has a cabinet with some experience in the roles allocated. That said, I'm a bit disappointed about the whole 20bn black hole that has been 'discovered' despite full access to the books in advance. All in though, I don't really think that anything they do can possibly be worse than the last government. Taking us out of the EU has damaged the economy beyond comprehension, made worse by a bad deal being struck and then the Trussterfuck. Nothing the Labour Party can do will be anywhere close to as bad. As with any government, there will be winners and losers come the budget, but whatever decisions Starmer makes, I have the feeling that he is a considered man, and cares about the country way more than anyone in the previous administration from Cameron onward.

I think I'll give them a couple of years before making any judgements. I've never going to like everything any party does but hopefully there will be enough to make me feel like has got better rather than worse each year.

The cost of Oasis tickets (at the cheapest) puts the £300 heating allowance into perspective (isn't it ironic don't ya think..90s reference) the government are not benefactors of the price of a concert ticket, but big business and capitalism is. How people can get so upset at not being able to spend £150 ++ on a concert ticket yet expect the public purse to pay the likes of Elton John £300 towards their gas bill because they're old enough is not right. I'm sure Elton is charitable but he doesn't need it like many. As always it's those on the cusp that may lose out, it's always been unfair to some even under the Tories..I'm a big fan of a taper in that respect

i would be happy for pay per
mile but would it just be that ?
or as I suspect it’ll be pay per mile plus huge fuel tax plus car tax plus ulez,congestion charge,lez zones tolls
on any new bridge and tunnel built and still have roads that aren’t fit to drive on

But did you actually need it??

You say you are nowhere near getting it so presumably have a reasonable income.

Do you think should just give out free money that people don't need just to make them feel a bit more like they are getting something when other people are 🙄🤔

I don't get child benefit. I used to, then they decided to means test it. And you know what? Im ok with that, because i can honestly say that while the little extra was nice, i didnt truly need it. Im not struggling to feed/clothe my kids without it.

There isn't enough money, and not enough people are net contributers, for the government to chuck money at people just so they feel a bit better!!!

All good so far.

I was ecstatic when they got rid of the Rwanda scheme and announced the end of the Bibby Stockholm accommodation, both of which I was deeply ashamed of. Also pleased they came down hard on the rioters who were dragging people out of cars for not looking so called British enough. People should feel safe no matter their nationality or ethnic background. I was absolutely disgusted to read about people trying to set hotels on fire that housed refugees, it’s the ugly side of our nation that needs zero tolerance, they’ve shown that.

Also very pleased we haven’t got any drama, the Tories were an absolute disgrace and not fit to govern.

Keir Starmer’s first speech as PM made me cry, living under a Tory government for fourteen years was for me not pleasant. Starmer said the right things about that and it marked an end to quite a bleak period for our country.

Re the fuel allowance
It's only my opinion but it feels personal. I know I wouldn't be entitled because my dh is lucky enough to have a private pension, but many don't and live on very low amounts
I sucked up the family allowance changes ( that was taken away ) because I did feel that was unfair as it stood , but when you hear what other people get In benefits it feels bad to just target the pensioners. I didn't vote conservative and never have done btw.
(I understand the arguments about ' Rich pensioners ' but there are many that are not and will struggle if it's a cold winter)

Excellent advisory picks (eg James Timpson) a decent response to the riots (vested interest as there was a threatened one near my house that didnt materialise but was well policed regardless) and quiet (note not silent - glad they are still being held to account by the press) in the news for in fighting and sleaze.

pretty happy.

I don’t get this argument. The CB withdrawal triggered on a sliding scale of between £50 and 60k pa. The WFA is a cliff edge at £11.3k pa. How are these remotely comparable?

No, because it will be a very long time before I forget how dishonest and corrupt the Tories were when in power.

Just out of interest, where should all of the people coming to the UK go, as Labour have also said they don’t want to use hotels.

So where?

I think it should be available to any pensioners living on less than about £18 a year. Older people feel the cold more than younger ones.

Totally stand my decision - I'm generally disappointed in them as I expected to be, but still glad I voted for them when I think about what the Tories would be doing right now, which would be much worse. Counterproductive culture wars, ridiculous Rwanda scheme, increasing anti-LGBT+ invective etc

The Tories really needed to go so there wasn't much choice but to go for Labour. But they are so far a lot worse than I feared. I'm disgusted that they're cutting fuel payments whilst they still enjoy pretty much unlimited expenses to run two houses, plus discounted bars and restaurants etc - they certainly no longer have any right whatsoever to call the Conservatives the nasty party.

There's so many disasters already but I'm most horrified by they apparent lack of any sort of business acumen; an a-level business studies student could explain to them why some of their touted policies are going to hinder growth... most of it's just common sense and basic maths. I was really hopeful when they kept banging on about the importance of growth but they seem far more interested in getting 'their base' all excited by being mean to evil rich people, whether that is actually going to help the country or not. They've come into government at a perfect time, though they're trying desperately to pretend otherwise. And of course they just sound utterly incompetent when they say they didn't realise billions were missing from the economy - did they think we were housing asylum seekers for free?! They should've noticed, and even if they didn't have the precise figures, they should've been able to get to a close estimate. Then they include tax cuts the Tories offered and didn't budget for - again, they presumably heard the announcement too, they should have included it in their figures, even if the Tories didn't.

The economy is finally growing (not by much, but quicker than other comparable economies), investors are getting worried about the situations in the US, Germany, France etc and they're ready and willing to invest in a sensible, secure economy. But Starmer's decided to scare them off with stupid, ill thought out employment laws that will put companies off recruiting anyone, and tax plans which will cost most than they'll save and drive may wealth creators to take their money elsewhere. But hey, people will no economic understanding whatsoever will cheer happily cos the evil rich the will finally pay, so it's definitely worth it. Even though the top 10% are already paying over 60% of all income tax. But obviously that's still not enough - bleed them dry, and if they and their companies fuck off we'll just find some reason to somehow blame the Tories when we slide into bankruptcy. Well done. I really, really wish we taught basic economics at school.

I’m not in government so have no answer to where. How about these people get processed faster so they can either go about their lives like anyone else in the UK or get sent back if asylum is denied? The immigration system under the Tories was underfunded and I think purposefully slow, encouraging hatred of immigrants was one of their top selling points. We need more investment to speed it up, then you’d need a lot less accommodation.

The public sector pay rise is part of the black hole - it added 9 billion to the already huge black hole

I hope they don't take away the single person discount on council tax. It won't affect me but I think it would be unfair. I think whatever they do to cut services will be unpopular with some groups. Pensioners, people living alone, motorist. I wouldn't be surprised if they stopped free prescriptions for anyone over 60 and made people wait until 67.

Happy so far. Probably need to give them a good couple of years to judge them but aware they'll need to make sure the budget isn't too too depressing. I am a little worried they won't veer quite left enough, but you can't please everyone and if that was what was required to give them a chance to govern then so be it. They're definitely managing more boring, competent governing than the last lot which was my primary aim.

If you are that question in mumsnet you want to hear that people are happy so far.

Not only am I happy but I am thrilled .. especially to have an actual grown adult in charge. One I'm not embarrassed to call our prime minister.

... and I have kids in private school. !! (We aren't all playing our tiny violins) it's one sensible way to start filling that hole.

No could not be happier with them- I am
Actually really hopeful about the future