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If you voted Labour in July, have you changed your mind?

191 replies

notgettinganyyounger · 08/09/2024 17:29

Are you happy with the changes so far, and still backing Starmer?

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BiggerBoat1 · 08/09/2024 17:49

Very happy so far.

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 08/09/2024 17:49

Quite happy.

Thanks for asking.

Onelifeonly · 08/09/2024 17:50

Yes, happy

notgettinganyyounger · 08/09/2024 17:50

Those who are very happy, what exactly are you happy with? Apart from getting rid of the tories?

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SeanMean · 08/09/2024 17:52

Happy so far.

CrossUniStudent · 08/09/2024 17:52

They've been in for all of 5 mins it's literally impossible to measure if they've been 'successful' or not 🙄

RhubarbStrawberry · 08/09/2024 17:53

notgettinganyyounger · 08/09/2024 17:50

Those who are very happy, what exactly are you happy with? Apart from getting rid of the tories?

Your response to the "Are you happy you voted for Brexit?" thread was "I am very pleased that I voted leave." With no further explanation. You've had a lot longer to think about why you are happy you voted Leave than Labour voters!

AgnesX · 08/09/2024 17:54

Nope....as if the Tories were going to be any better.

Flibflobflibflob · 08/09/2024 17:54

caringcarer · 08/09/2024 17:42

I didn't vote for Labour. I suspect there will be a lot of unhappy pensioners who only get state pension and have no private pension now no heating credit. They have to manage on £11.5k a year.

Yeah I thought this was cruel, I’m fine with means testing but on one hand chucking money at the public sector and then being blase about people who live in genuine poverty was really unpleasant. Also that blackhole, half of that is the cost of pay rises. I think the intervention on Oasis tickets was ridiculous, it’s an irrelevance, we have dynamic pricing on trains, do something about that fools, it affects a lot more people.

I’m not optimistic. The tories needed to go but I think Labour are going to be a shambles too.

Fizzypineapple · 08/09/2024 17:54

Yeah I'm content with my decision. There's no money. The country was fucked by the Tories and it's now convenient to blame labour. The reality is society could do so much more to help themselves and help each other. I made the right decision and will continue to work my backside off to make society a tiny bit better.

sunburnandsangria · 08/09/2024 17:54

the80sweregreat · 08/09/2024 17:48

I'm upset about the fuel allowance, not because I'm anywhere near getting it ( and probably never will ) but because it seems every other person can be ' entitled ' to things , yet they have bashed the pensioners. It feels personal.
The MPs can claim for second homes too
Maybe they should cut a few of their perks too

Isn't the state pension going up by hundreds per year again? Against the backdrop of the triple lock and - on average - the wealthiest pensioners the country has ever known and an ageing population I think the pensioners taking some of a hit is fair.

I'll wait until after the budget but I fear that I can only see a worsening standard of living for my family.

bluebee17 · 08/09/2024 17:56

Way to soon to tell

InfoSecInTheCity · 08/09/2024 17:56

It took 14 years for Conservatives to fuck the country up as badly as they did,I think it's reasonable to give Labour more than 2 months to fix it.

I always knew I wouldn't agree 100% with every decision made by Starmer, but then I wouldn't agree 100% with any of them. The simple fact in my mind is that we had to escape from the Conservative party and the only viable option was Labour, so I don't regret my vote at all.

Parrotseatthemall · 08/09/2024 17:57

caringcarer · 08/09/2024 17:42

I didn't vote for Labour. I suspect there will be a lot of unhappy pensioners who only get state pension and have no private pension now no heating credit. They have to manage on £11.5k a year.

I'm managing on quite a lot less at the moment..my fuel bills last winter were not high because I turn off lights and keep the heating thermostat quite low. Let's face it many of the older generation didn't grow up with central heating and know how to keep warm (and there are lots of modern ways at their disposal). I do think it's important that those who qualify for pension credit, claim it though, and we need to look out and help those who might qualify. £300 over a year is not going to make a big impact apart from the psychological effect of 'running out of money' which is real to that generation

PurBal · 08/09/2024 17:57

I understand higher spend means higher taxes but it seems they're mostly making cuts. So I'm not really sure the plan... seems counter to the principles of the Labour Party.

nojudge · 08/09/2024 17:58

notgettinganyyounger · 08/09/2024 17:43

@nojudge I did have a quick search for a thread like this over the past week. Didn't see one, so I do apologise. Obv you don't have to waste your time posting on it, but seems you have anyway!

Well, yes, but I did. It just seems to me that some of them might be a bit, um, disingenuous? Not that I'm implying yours is, of course.

notgettinganyyounger · 08/09/2024 17:59

No worries

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Clearinguptheclutter · 08/09/2024 18:00

No regrets

I did think it was a bit 🤔 when they declared a £22bn finance black hole and how difficult it was to fix that but in the same breath give public sector workers a whopping pay rise which cost about half an much again. I do think the public sector guys deserve a pay rise but so do we (private sector,
no pay rise for 2 and a half years and no union either)

InterestQ · 08/09/2024 18:00

I’m a floating voter and voted for them but I wish they had put th winter fuel allowance threshold higher. I do agree it needed to be means tested somehow though.

I’ll wait for the budget. KS seems reasonable. But if everyone has to pay a wealth tax (I know some Labour voters are very keen for this but I’m not) and I end up paying 1% of my house value a year in tax, I will vote elsewhere next time. The core Labour voters hoping for a wealth tax always think it will apply to only the wealthy but you don’t know if they decide the threshold should be all homeowners. Not just multi millionaire.

somereallyniceadvice · 08/09/2024 18:00

Curious

HRTQueen · 08/09/2024 18:00

Yes I voted for Labour

I have a great local labour MP and I wanted a Labour government led by Keir Starmer

I am pleased with how things have gone so far particularly around the riots and the stopping of selling arms to Israel (though would like this to go further but it’s a start). am not happy about the pensioners losing winter fuel payments unless on benefits at all. I think this decision was taken as easy to implement it’s disappointing

I do not expect to support every decision that is made

skippy67 · 08/09/2024 18:01

Yes and yes.

SpiderGwen · 08/09/2024 18:02

Given the catastrophic situation the Tories left the country in , yes, I am very happy to see a new government addressing incredibly difficult issues with realistic solutions.

It can’t be sunshine and lollipops when the previous government drive the country to its knees and asset stripped it to make their wealthy friends even wealthier.

skippy67 · 08/09/2024 18:02

Clearinguptheclutter · 08/09/2024 18:00

No regrets

I did think it was a bit 🤔 when they declared a £22bn finance black hole and how difficult it was to fix that but in the same breath give public sector workers a whopping pay rise which cost about half an much again. I do think the public sector guys deserve a pay rise but so do we (private sector,
no pay rise for 2 and a half years and no union either)

I work in the public sector. My pay rise this year will be approximately 1.9%. Woohoo.

AuntieJoyce · 08/09/2024 18:06

Parrotseatthemall · 08/09/2024 17:39

I still think we need to see what exactly is in the budget to make that judgement..the media has been hyper focusing on the fuel allowance being removed from pensioners, many of which won't miss it. That 'heating or eating' phrase is overused to stir up debate imho. All political parties have to 'balance the books'. Starmer was careful not to promise much, but we needed a change so it's still early days 😕

But the fact they did that it at all shows poor judgement. You don’t exactly have to be mystic meg to know that it was going to be a problem for pensioners close to the cut off and that all we need is a cold winter and excess deaths reported for it to be a complete political disaster for them.

And Starmer’s recent interviews about how we need to balance the books are just scaring the market and letting the rumour mill run into overdrive. If that’s a tactic to make us feel relieved on the 30th of October it’s not a very smart one