What do you think happens after you die ?

[Ella2001]

I’m waiting on “you’ll be dead and that’s that“ 🤣
but genuinely curious as to what everyone else thinks happens , I know it’ll be like before you were born , you won’t know but what if after life/recantation is a thing ? I’ve come to terms with the fact tomorrow isn’t promised but what if there’s afterlife and we get born into a horrible abusive family ? In that case I think I’d rather just be nothing ? What you all think ? Love to read these threads thought I’d make one myself 😆

I think it's just like you're in a deep sleep but never wake up and no longer dream. Just nothingness.

This.

A brain is like a computer. If it falls apart/ dies then everything that it is also ceases to function. There isn't a magical 'energy' that somehow lives on.

I find it quite liberating to accept that everything I am is basically a bunch of cells put together and functioning in a certain way - when things go wrong and I no longer function as an organism, and that will be the end of it.

To be a bit graphic, any energy remaining in my corpus will return to the earth when I'm eaten by maggots, or if I am incinerated it will be released to the air. There is no reincarnation.

Makes me want to enjoy the very short life I have.

People are entitled to believe what they want, but if I'm honest I think people who believe in spirits and afterlife are a bit bonkers. I don't think it's rational or logical.

Erm ...This was dismissed as flawed & unscientific from the off (1907) and has continued to be dismissed - the experiments have been repeated, never with a supporting result.

Leaving that aside for the moment, how does energy weigh 21 grams? Energy, such as light and electricity, does have 'mass' but it is infinitesimal.

I asked Google how much electricity would weigh 1 gram, and it said 89.9 terajoules, or 24,972,222 kilowatt-hours. The atom bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima was 63 terajoules - so "21 grams of energy" would be equivalent to 30 Hiroshimas.

I imagine people would notice if that was happening every time someone snuffed it. Duncan MacDougall would definitely not have survived to publish his dodgy paper!

You're assuming an explosion though

I'm assuming a release of 1,888 terajoules over a relatively short time.

And, for that "21 grams of energy" to be available for release, it must exist within us while we're alive. Our bodies do have energy, but 30 Hiroshimas' worth? Don't know why I'm paying for electricity, when I could just cook dinner with a little bit of my soul 😁

Thought more about this since turning 80. Except for a few years of 'teen rebellion' always been C of E with non-conformist leanings, objections to robes and ceremonial. The teaching has shaped my wider thinking and my focussed belief.
I hope I have a soul, I am convinced that within us all is a spirit or soul that makes us what we are. It is what others see in us. At our death that stops along with the heart and brain and the other physical bits. We stop feeling and we lose the power to feel or to be aware. completely.
Somehow I think that spirit of us continues. I have no explanation about where or how.
The legends and stories which are in most cultures have much in common. But they are a minor part of our philosophy.
The most important part of our philosophy is how we live our life when we are alive. That though is another Thread.

Let’s take a more modern English translation then
“Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.“
John 3:18-19

Does that sit better with you?

Of course Jesus, being an adult human male can’t be given any other pronouns that HE, HIM. I don’t see why anyone would expect anything else.

I have seen a corpse in real life (my own mother). It didn’t make me feel there must be souls or spirits, it made me feel the opposite. Do I think my mum is now reunited with my dad? In all honesty no. It would be nice to think that (not sure what my dad would think about the whole eternity with my mum though lol) but I don’t think it happens.

Yes, seeing my husband's body and my father's body absolutely did not make me think about souls.

The OP said “for whoever is interested”.

You clearly aren’t, so it’s not for you!
No one expects you to spend any time on this whatsoever.

The interesting aspect about quoting science and saying things aren't scientific and that people who believe X are bonkers. are now and then science becomes unexplainable. Particles behaving in a different way when we observe them for example. Entanglement theory. It's starting to become a bit woo woo for some. 150 years ago we would have thought a microwave was woo too!

Having an open mind is not unscientific it's sensible.

Me neither, it made me think dead is dead. There was nothing spiritual about it at all.

I understand it’s a comfort for people to think there is something afterwards but to me that is all it is, a comfort. A lot of people feel like they are God’s children and in the same way you comfort a child with Goldie the goldfish is swimming with his fish friends in heaven, you say mum’s been reunited with dad. I don’t believe it but I can understand the need to believe in it. I’d even say it myself to someone if it was a comfort to them.

Who are usually American (and Republican). I was curious because I think it’s unusual to get overt Christian fundamentalists in Britain (although they do exist I guess).

Is this the sort of thing you would like?

“The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father…”

and

“He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”

you feel frustrated because you want it to happen right now?

“The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.”

Just because He is giving everyone time to turn to Him doesn’t mean He isn’t going to act at all.

This is the time to turn to Him.

No that’s just some gobbledegook written by humans.

Hopefully if there is a heaven (I don’t believe there is) the Christian fundamentalists will have their own exclusive heavenly island so we won’t ever cross paths. Imagine an eternity with them yikes!

Nothing, we just cease to exist, except in the memories of people that knew us.

They’ve rocked up on a couple of threads recently — there’s also another current thread about whether 21st century religion is more about culture than belief, which has attracted posters using exactly this kind of US TV evangelical language. Either they just pop out of the woodwork when someone says something about their Lord and Saviour that they don’t like, or Mn is being targeted. They’re not doing their faith any favours, either way. They seem bizarrely underinformed about uncontroversial facts widely accepted by theological/ early church historians, and just keep banging away at the old Bible Bingo.

You are mainstream Christianity? 🤔 Are you claiming to be God? Or Jesus?

The arrogance of this post is astonishing.

I don't understand how all can be blissful in heaven if the people you love are not all Christians. Presumably you believe they are in hell (or Hades, or whatever).

So much doom and gloom!

To quote the first two stanzas of Longfellow's poem -

Tell me not, in mournful numbers,
Life is but an empty dream!
For the soul is dead that slumbers,
And things are not what they seem.

Life is real! Life is earnest!
And the grave is not its goal;
Dust thou art, to dust returnest,
Was not spoken of the soul.

I think after we die we decide to come back and do it all again. And the decisions we make about what sort of family we'll come into are ones that we would never make with our human minds. And then we're born and forget that we ever lived before, so it's always like the first time.

@AgileGreenSeal

you're really not getting it are you?

YOU can believe whatever you want. It doesn't make it so.

maybe you didn't notice, but this is in chat, asking what people think. Not in religion & philosophy - please try your best to convert me.

Can we not make this thread about preachy religious fundamentalism? Most people who have had near death experiences say they learned that religion doesn't matter. It's made up bollocks.

I’ve said what I think. 🤷🏼‍♀️

You don’t have to like it, but I still have as much right as anyone else to say it.