What do you think happens after you die ?

[Ella2001]

I’m waiting on “you’ll be dead and that’s that“ 🤣
but genuinely curious as to what everyone else thinks happens , I know it’ll be like before you were born , you won’t know but what if after life/recantation is a thing ? I’ve come to terms with the fact tomorrow isn’t promised but what if there’s afterlife and we get born into a horrible abusive family ? In that case I think I’d rather just be nothing ? What you all think ? Love to read these threads thought I’d make one myself 😆

Don't you think God hasn't taken into account people who lived before Jesus came? People who die very young? People who have never heard the gospel?

Noah was seen as righteous by God and saved from the flood with his family - if that wasn't a judgement on humanity, what was, yet he found something in Noah that was worthy of salvation. There are many instances in the OT where God judges someone as righteous. His grace is not restricted to just post Christ.

To think it’s fine that billions of people are binned off for very unreasonable reasons and unrealistic expectations is quite awful. I feel it’s like folk who would grab the titanic lifeboats and watch others drown.

It's God's reasons though, they may seem unreasonable to us, but not to Him. To be honest I'd rather be judged by him than any human as I know he will be completely fair, unlike a human who doesn't understand and know me completely. Christians have not 'grabbed' the lifeboats - we did not choose to be saved, God chose us. I am a broken sinner who deserves to die, but by God's grace, he called me and saved me. That gift it open to you and to everyone. There's plenty of room in the lifeboat!

I thought there’d be account of pre Jesus so it wasn’t the best example, though I think many more people BC would have access to the OT god than AD access to Jesus - but what about my other points where there actually is an impossibility that a person could know Jesus?
Im sure you believe you are called by God etc and that’s the only way to salvation - but can’t you see how distasteful it seems to others that people who haven’t had a hope in hell of knowing about Jesus are condemned to the same?

Yes I can see that, but it puts more emphasis on believers getting the gospel word out to everyone. The onus is on me to do that!

Wow, when I created this thread I didn’t expect so many replies, took me a long time to read through them all but wow some interesting comments !

Me too. The more physics and astronomy advances, the weirder it gets. I’m coming round to the idea it’s all just a blip on the event horizon. Death can’t be any weirder than what we’re in already

If it's anything like the general anesthetic I had 10 years ago, I think it's like turning off a light. You just cease to exist.
I think that if you weren't worried about not existing before you were born, the same is true after you die.

I’ve always believed and hoped this too x

My mum had a cardiac arrest (luckily she was in hospital already, very unusual to be fine after a cardiac arrest!) and she said the same, just like turning off a light. She’s a lapsed Christian and would like to think there’s a heaven etc and she still hopes that. But her experience was like a light going off.

So I always think the analogy 'turning off a light' isn't a great one. I mean if you are stood in a room and you turn off the light then you are still in the room right? Just it's dark.

>>CrunchyCarrot · Yesterday 18:45
>>GalileoHumpkins · Yesterday 15:13
You don’t want His forgiveness?

>>> Nope. Why would I want or need forgiveness from someone I don't believe in? What would he be forgiving me for?
>>>Have you never done anything wrong, ever? No matter how minor?

But why would anyone need forgiveness or to repent for something minor. By it's nature something minor doesn't matter. That's what minor means.

>>>“Better is one day in your courts than a thousand elsewhere; I would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God than dwell in the tents of the wicked.”

I love that expression 'dwell in the tents of the wicked'. Where are these tents?
They sound like they might be interesting. I bet they are at Burning Man. Or Glastonbury.

timetodecide2345 · Today 12:03

So I always think the analogy 'turning off a light' isn't a great one. I mean if you are stood in a room and you turn off the light then you are still in the room right? Just it's dark.

It's more like pulling out the plug or taking out the battery. The toy is still there, like a dead body exists, but it's not capable of doing anything. There is no electrical activity.

I have had that feeling too of having come out of pure blank nothing after waking from an anaesthetic, but the fact one has woken up of course means one had never died.

So we still don’t know if that nothing was life after death, or if it was just life under anaesthetic.

I want to get the book Lucid Dying spoken about on radio 4 PM which I mentioned earlier.

The difference is we have lived a life, experiences, memories etc, but before birth there was nothing. How do all our experiences just disappear into oblivion?

But our bodies are gone, our brains are dead. How can we meet and recognise those who have gone before and those who will come later? It’s like when people say, “she’s dancing in heaven” or “ Granddad’s doing his gardening up there, and looks down on us” How? I’d like to think we go on in some way, it’s comforting, but I fear it just nothingness, hard as that is to accept.

You’ve left your physical body behind, so unless you are resurrected somewhere else how can you actually hug?

"I’d like to think we go on in some way, it’s comforting, but I fear it just nothingness, hard as that is to accept".
Which is why all people have tried woven myths and stories about it through all of time. We are in our way continuing this. Just as they did in Australia or the Amazon over millions of years.
We have Judea/Christianity which seems to be in some way different. That is what we have been exploring and I feel we have done very well.

@Bignanna Bignanna · Today 14:50

zingally · Today 11:21
If it's anything like the general anesthetic I had 10 years ago, I think it's like turning off a light. You just cease to exist.
I think that if you weren't worried about not existing before you were born, the same is true after you die.
The difference is we have lived a life, experiences, memories etc, but before birth there was nothing. How do all our experiences just disappear into oblivion?

Isn't that exactly why people desperately want to believe that there is something beyond death? Because the alternative is so bleak.

Otherwise it becomes a bit nihilistic. If you get deeply into this line of thinking - then the end of it is "what's the point?" - as in what's the point of doing anything if the minute I die, I am gone, switched off, battery dead and nothing survives. It's all a waste of time. Even if you have left 'something' behind you that lives on - like a great work of fiction, an important scientific discovery, a child or two - if you are nihiistic about life after death - then what does that matter either.

Maybe the only meaning of life is to maximise your own pleasure as it is all that counts.

I think I'm coming round more and more to the idea that its like a video game. I'm not full on Matrix we are all living in a simulation thought. More like if our world and life was like a video game - created by someone else whether a god or other beings - when we die it is just like a video game character being gunned down. It's dead. Game over. Nothing. You can play again by making a new one but it's not the same becaue the other character is exploded and its energy has gone. It is an ex-parrot.

I find the idea of oblivion gives me peace, I don't find it bleak.

Amen

I find the idea of oblivion gives me peace, I don't find it bleak.

I didn't mean oblivion being bleak. I meant that the idea that life is utterly pointless is bleak.

Oh OK. Well, I suppose for me love and connection and joy are still real things, it's just that I don't think God is involved. But yes, without a doubt I have less sense of purpose than those who are religious. I also love and respect many religious people who clearly derive purpose and joy from their faith. I'm OK though with not having a strong sense of purpose if it means I can say loudly and clearly that it is NOT my purpose to try and impose one cultural vision on everyone else in the world, trashing their faith and culture in the process, in pursuit of a concept of an afterlife that makes no sense at all.

Why is it pointless, just because it ends, though? Surely the point is that we make our own structures of meaning, and live meaningfully according to whatever those are?

So you’re saying it’s ok those things happened because God did it?

In a way I find it calming. Means you can just appreciate life for what it is.

I think what happens is something our brain capacity can't comprehend, and isn't supposed to comprehend.