Thread 7 Starmer : Cats and Conferences

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https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5145757-thread-6-starmer-were-going-to-need-a-bigger-skip?page=40&reply=138030825

Good evening all

I'm back just for this thread. If you see me elsewhere on MN please tell me to stay on the Starmer sycophants thread 😂

I need to discuss just how Robert "paint over murals" Jenrick is the favourite for Tory leader

Cassie! We missed you

https://www.paddypower.com/politics/uk-party-leaders

He's overtaken the sainted Kemi in the betting.

Nice to see you back Cassie.

Social care. I dont believe any government will dare lift the lid on the absolute disgrace that purports to be 'care' in this country. Even when it was clear to everyone when Covid happened, its back under the covers again. Deregulation. It's what we all want and need isn't it Moggy?

Brilliant to see you back Cassie, it hasn’t been the same without you.

Welcome back Cassie. Have you brought a cat?

Good to see you back Cassie

Oh please can our next thread title be something about Starmer's sycophants?

I don't think I can be accused of being a Starmer sycophant

Nice to see you back Cassie

Good to see you back @CassieMaddox .

House of Lords reform begins. A long time coming.

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Link didn't work apologies.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/sep/05/ministers-introduce-plans-to-remove-all-hereditary-peers-from-lords?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

I was ardently anti the HoL until the recent government. They managed to stop some really stupid laws from going through and won me over. Happy to get rid of the last lot of hereditary peers but I don't want any more political appointments or friends or family or secret daughters or sisters I just want experts in their field. People with a good understanding of relevant areas who can bring their expertise and wisdom to counter anything crazy a government might try to bring in.

Agree Zonder . No political appointments and a diverse group of voices, skills and competencies is the way to go. Now to get rid of the bishops.

Generally I think HoL works okay except for the hereditary element; the scrutiny is much much tougher than the Commons in reality, the experience and expertise is much greater and the political influence a lot less. Quite frankly you cannot do much to a Lord or Lady because you cannot dangle a political appointment or other plum job as a carrot for good behaviour. They do as they please. There is some political loyalty but it doesn’t count for very much.

The reason HoL has survived when it looks utterly anti democratic is the freedom of its participants. It should not work but it does. I have met lots of them and elected politicians over the years. The more thought and long term thinkers were invariably in the “Upper House” and they were a cut above in terms of brains.

It was a reference to the visitor. I don't think we are actually sycophants! I'm a fan though. Love this
https://x.com/Haggis_UK/status/1831290887051129079/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1831290887051129079&currentTweetUser=Haggis_UK

(It's a video of PMQs yest)

I am also enjoying the hilarious "leadership" campaign by the opposition. Thank fuck it didn't happen while they were in government. Either Jenrick or Badenoch in opposition will be funny. And probs keep the Tories in the cold for a while.

I was idly musing this morning whether Jenrick was picked to be more appealing to the Conservative membership (who elected Truss over Sunak). Braverman must be fuming.

Plus I think the "Angela Raver" insult is very misjudged. Many of us of a certain age see that as an entirely familiar scenario, makes her seem like an ordinary person. Plus it just reminds me of Govey, off his tits in a club that time.

Hilarious.

Wes Streeting has gone very quiet though.

I don't often do my cats - just for you though x

Generally I think HoL works okay

By luck rather than design?

Maybe Johnson has done us all a favour by exposing the flaws of the HoL appointments.

That link doesn't work @CassieMaddox - yields this error message:

Hmm...this page doesn’t exist. Try searching for something else.

It worked for me

Try this one

https://x.com/Haggis_UK/status/1831290887051129079

Keir Starmer: "If he carries on pretending everything is fine for ordinary people... they are going to be there for a very, very long time(opposition benches)..." he then goes on to quote Kemi Badenoch on what she said about the winter fuel allowance.

A couple of points.... firstly, there's some extremely good looking cats on here!

I watched Kay Burley interviewing Angela Rayner this morning, and I have to say... she came across really well. Her answering questions about the Ibiza rave (why should she?) was great, a mixture of self deprecating and serious. I think she's the perfect balance as Deputy with Keir's seriousness.

Lastly, on HoL... has anyone been reading that 'Baroness Owen (AKA Charlotte Owen) has media pieces in Ireland and elsewhere stating she is Johnson's daughter. Apparently, over here, it is overrun with super injunctions and can't be reported. I cannot confirm the veracity of this.

Ooh! I hadn't seen that about Owen. Since when is reporting on nepotism banned?

I know that @CassieMaddox - it just shows how little that visitor "knows" us!

Good to see you back and lovely chilled out cats!

Her name is trending on twitter (again) along with posts saying that Private Eye hasn't printed a word about her

(just posted on the old thread by mistake)

'There were lots of empty seats....I was really quite shocked'
^^
@Peston says he was surprised by how many MPs left the Commons before the prime minister's statement on the Grenfell Inquiry report.
x.com/itvnews/status/1831366211571216476?s=46&t=sQEeBsNjiTta_B_D1Qh6IQ

Disgraceful. It pains me to think that some of the new Labour MPs must have been among those who left. And the Grenfell families were there. Victims lives not even worth the courtesy of staying in the chamber and listening to the PM.