Thread 7 Starmer : Cats and Conferences

[DuncinToffee]

Previous thread

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5145757-thread-6-starmer-were-going-to-need-a-bigger-skip?page=40&reply=138030825

Most of the replies are very sensible.

It really needs to be zapped.🤬

"This normalisation of promoting rumours and lies is a terrible thing."

Hope that applies to this thread as well re Charlotte Owen.

If you think this thread is promoting rumours and lies, I hope you have reported those posts.

I now accept that Ms Owens elevation to the Lords was gained after her position and work on the staff of Boris Johnson. It was puerile to believe otherwise.

Exactly. Asking questions, however, is surely a sensible thing to do?

Funny for you to bring Charlotte up again. Almost like you had some kind of ulterior motive.

Your posts are reading more like a Carry On script than anything else.

Which is?

How would we know? What is your motive for focusing so much on one young woman?

That's in your head.

Early with the insults I see - never a sign of good intentions

There was a cat story I wanted to post earlier but forgot - will go and look for it now

Wasn't aware there had to be a motive.

I think you'd better have a go at The Observer as well then, as there's a lot of heavy hinting in this article today:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/sep/07/boris-johnson-faces-questions-uranium-business-charlotte-owen-aide

Is it just random that you want to talk about that young woman so much?

Flowers from the garden. #justbecause I've run out of accessible cat photos

Starmer leads with compromise for new family pet – and gets ‘dog-like’ cat

Siberian kitten at No 10 may get frosty reception from chief mouser Larry, who took on George Osborne’s cat, Freya

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/sep/07/starmer-compromise-new-family-pet-siberian-kitten-dog-like-cat

Is this the next 'Starmer scandal' in the making? - the exhorbitant price of Siberian cats and their restricted bloodlines

I just feel that she's been given a hard time because she is a young attractive blonde woman.

I've only seen one article which has given a balanced view between CO and Ross Kempsell which questioned why both of them had been given peerages. Everyone else seems to be focused on CO and that she must have got hers because she is either BJ's daughter or because she has slept with him, as if being a woman she couldn't possibly have achieved anything from her own merit.

If people want to know why CO and RK are in the HoL it should be BJ answering that question.

@2dogsandabudgie

as if being a woman she couldn't possibly have achieved anything from her own merit.

But this is exactly what is being questioned! What exactly has she achieved that would merit her being given a peerage? Or even being made Vice-President of Better Earth?

as if being a woman she couldn't possibly have achieved anything from her own merit.

It’s got nothing to do with being a woman and everything to do with not being alive for long enough to have achieved anything much. Same with Kempsall and Carmen Smith.

No one seems to be questioning Kempsell as much though or digging into his family, trying to find out who his parents are and requesting birth certificates etc.

Because @2dogsandabudgie he does at least have some relevant experience working in politics and government. As this piece from Wiki shows:

Career
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He was formerly a journalist at the right-wing political website Guido Fawkes. In 2019, Kempsell interviewed Boris Johnson during his campaign for the leadership of the Conservative Party, in which Johnson declared that he liked to make models of buses to relax.[5] He also worked as a journalist for Times Radio[6] and was a political editor for TalkRadio.[7] He returned to Guido Fawkes in 2024 as a contributing editor.[8]

Having been political director of the Conservative Party, he was appointed director of the Conservative Research Department in 2020.[9][10] Following Rishi Sunak's unopposed selection as leader of the Conservative Party, Kempsell departed the Conservative Research Department in 2022.[11][12]

I agree. This also applies to her new position as VP of a company in a sector in which she has no experience.

You mean she is still on Johnsons staff, in a way ?

Anyone fed pictures of BJ and CO into an LLM engine trained in familial physiognomy ? Simply because they can ? I mean what with face recognition now "a thing" in law enforcement, it only seems fair.

Those small orange flowers, what are they called? We have lots in the garden and I have just realised that I have no idea what they are

That thread is a new level of scrapping tne barrel. Man in public office wants minimise the media exposure his children get - i simply have no idea how anyone could have a problem with that.

Because it's Labour.

I never heard or read anything about the fact not all Johnson's children are known or the fact his were kept anonymous in photos. In fact I respect that he kept their faces hidden and I can't say I respected the man as a general rule