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You can rock up to France by boat, that's not illegal. But you then need to claim asylum when you land if that's appropriate or clear immigration in the usual way if you are not claiming asylum. Same as the people who arrive in the UK by boat.

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Tbf, you used to be able to rock up in France and live there from the UK

Don't. Makes me want to cry.

My personal non political news is that Ds saw the Cardiac Consultant today.
The tests are now normal which is very good news. CC has no interest in what caused the Myocarditis. He cannot give a recovery timeframe for Ds to no longer be symptomatic (he is still extremely tired & chest pains although these are reducing slightly at 6 wks post heart failure). Ds is to stay on betablockers & 1 other med 'for the foreseeable future'. CC will not look into Ds high cholesterol for another 6m so as to not 'mix up symptom's. No advice re pre-Uni vaccines.
So, good news re tests, but a bit frustrating for Ds re the 'advice'. Ds now has to decide if he feels he can move to Uni (4 hrs away) in 18 days. I think it's a tall order but am worried about his MH if he just stays at home all winter, isolated.

@medianewbie it's good news about the tests, does that mean that he's stable now and on the road to recovery?

Good news about the tests.

I hope ds can come to decision that he's comfortable with.

Good to hear about the tests.

Good luck to DS in making the decision that is right for him.

@L1ttledrummergirl Yes it seems so :)

He is SO unsure what to do. I think he wants advice but I'm not sure either 🤔

Tough one, media. Sounds like in the long run it may be better he goes, now his tests are normal.

Have the university offered any support or advice? Thats a really tough call to make.

@Apolloneuro Yes. Although he also has Autism & Clinical Anxiety so it was always going to be an uphill struggle. Plus, he doesn't like the city Uni is in. But another year 'home alone' is no good for his MH. There's a local College where he could do an HNC (he was there before so it might feel like a backstep? but it would keep his brain ticking over, give him company & chance to recover fully & get fit / practice cooking etc before 'Uni proper'

Tough decision, media. Good wishes to you and your son.

That's such a tough decision. Especially if your DS doesn't like the uni city. It all hinges on how good or otherwise student medical services. DS got lucky in that regard - his entire diagnostic process was handled through his uni GP, who was brilliant about putting right referrals through.

@pointythings - we have spoken twice to student support (who were going to be arranging his DSA) & they've said 'Uni cannot help with anything medical, for that you need a social worker'. Obviously no time to set up (& I think he'd find that very stressful anyway) so I don't feel hugely confident re that.
He picked up a small printer last night, had chest pains & had to lie down. I don't want him potentially alone in his room having chest pains & reluctant/stressing about how to seek help.

That sounds very confusing, as well as worrying @medianewbie :(

There was a young man in my Swedish class from Afghanistan who fled when he was just 12. It took him 3 years to make his way to Sweden on his own. He was 15 when he got here, had never been to school, couldn't read or write when he arrived and only had a few words of English that he learnt along the way.

I really feel for your DS @medianewbie . And you, of course! The HNC and deferring Uni does sound the best course of action, but understand that he might not see it that way. Does he have to go to that Uni, if he doesn’t like the city and student support aren’t sounding, well, supportive?

The migration stats that have just been released state that Afghans are the number one nationality of people crossing to the UK on small boats.

No it's not illegal when it comes to asylum seekers. International law on refugees recognises and allows that people fleeing sometimes need to break the rules in order to get to safety.

Today’s No Shit News Story. Citizens of a country we left in the lurch desperate to get out, well I never! Wonder how many are translators etc who we promised to help and then didn’t.

Goodness median sounds as though this is a very difficult situation especially if the university aren’t being particularly helpful, how would Ds feel if he went back to the local college to do a HNC would this help with his eventual career progression or probably just as important help him in keeping his brain active having a routine & studying a subject he will enjoy maybe do a list of pro & cons of both options might make it a little easier to come to a decision seeing it written down.
good news the tests are normal the tiredness could be due to the beta blocker I take them for my heart condition & one of the side effects can be fatigue hopefully once his body adjusts this will recede, do hope you can find a resolution it’s sounds difficult trying to navigate what’s for best 💐

That does not surprise me.
Huge numbers of Afghans fled to Iran and Pakistan as well. Even if they agreed with the Taliban's rule, the economic situation over there is dire.

My DD has autism too. Her university (not UK) allowed her to do her first year as a distance student. She had to go up for a day or two a couple of times but otherwise she was at home. Then second year she moved into halls and stayed there for the rest of her studies. It really helped her because she got to know the university and her teachers and the way it all worked without the added stress of leaving home at the same time.

It's a shame there isn't a standard for student support. Some are so good, others are so crap.