Blake Lively, RR & It Ends With Us drama

[notallbloom]

Have NC because I freely admit that I have (limited) skin in this game, I am not entirely neutral.

This tells the story of the rift better than I could video here more about JB here JB info

Have worked for Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds in the UK, they are ...erm not my favourite slebs to work with. BL can be nasty to staff, her I'm all for women thing would be great, if she wasn't awful to them in reality. RR sometimes apologetically, always sides with BL, as his wife.
However, she does have 4 young DCs, so has spent much of the last decade pregnant, or post partum, which is enough to make anyone tired and therefore appear 'difficult'.

As I am senior in my role, stars have to treat me with some decency. Even so, the mask slips, I do everything I can to make their time in the UK as comfortable as possible, whilst placating the staff they upset, I will not work with them if I can avoid it.

Justin Baldoni directed It Ends With Us, I do not know JB.

Anti JB side (note there isn't much information about what JB has done wrong):
• He was difficult on set.
• He was acting and directing, diluting his ability to do both.
• He has hired a the firm of PR crisis manager who helped to improve Johnny Depp's image during the Amber Heard trial.
• JB has a pro 'good' men podcast called Man Enough, largely it is positive. Unfortunately he had Drake Bell on the podcast and did not question his accountability for previous SA.

Anti BL side:
• BL is trying to give the film a Barbie moment, encouraging audiences, for a film about DV, to wear florals.
• BL has objected to two things; she says JB fat-shamed her on set and, in one scene kissed her for too long (no suggestion that the kiss itself was inappropriate e.g. tongue).
• BL & RR made a cut of the film, which emphasises the rom-com of the story, rather than the DV.
• BL has corralled the author, Colleen Hoover and the cast to 'unfollow' JB on social media.
• RR rewrote a scene for the film without being asked by the director in doing so, RR broke the writer's strike.
• The cast have not been doing any press or standing on the red carpet at the premieres with JB.
• BL is using the film promo to also promote her new hair brand.

It may be that JB was a massive a-hole, or it may be that BL was a 'mean girl' and used her considerable power to influence the rest of the cast to be unpleasant to JB.
The truth could lie somewhere in the middle.

This is everything I know, I did not work on the film, or the promotion of it, so far.
I am able to agree that I have direct experience of seeing what BL and RR are like IRL, whereas I do not have the same experience of JB.
I'm prepared to accept that JB is the villain here.
I do not have any further information about this situation, if any comes my way I will, without breaking my contractual obligations, write about it here.

Celebrities’ true character always seems to come out in the end.

I don't think you can know what her true character is though. It's all just rumours.

Although having said that, there were rumours at the time that she didn't get along with Leighton Meester on gossip girl, or with Anna Kendrick on A Simple Favour.

In general though it does annoy me that reporting of celeb "feuds" (real or imaginary) is so skewed towards women not liking each other. Even if the above is all true, it wouldn't be reported on in the same way for two men because they aren't expected to be friends with everyone. Even with reality shows, it's always the two female judges that are rumoured to be arguing over wardrobe budgets and dressing room sizes etc.

Always thought something was going on and she was quick to have all those kids too.

Scarlett is the most beautiful woman.

And she didn’t have lots of surgery in GG but I thought she was still attractive.

Sad we aren't discussing RR's face on here

Not sure you can do anything about the fact his eyes are too close together!

You're nuts if you think people in those industries don't discuss this stuff. Especially warning each other who is not so nice. It's survival. This is anonymous.

I’m fascinated by TS and feel like I’m neither a fan or a detractor and, like you said, don’t necessarily think she should be expected to be nice.

However I watched Miss Americana and found it really… confusing and sad. She seems really lost in her own life. The latest album I found sort of pathetic too. She doesn’t seem to have developed an adult identity that can stand alone from success, but then I can see why she is compelled to keep working when she gets that level of adulation.

it seems like a surprisingly joyless life.

I agree. My interest in this case is the rathe unwise media spat. I’m not interested in tearing her looks apart.

She’s always been a goodlooking woman, she had a nose job along with half of Hollywood, so what.

Her “diva tantrums” look like meltdowns to me.

@PerkyMintDeer when has Taylor Swift been filmed having a diva tantrum?

Oh I often talk about plastic surgery regardless of sex. I find it interesting. I have dissected Zac Efron’s new face and Ryan Godling’s pillow face if that makes a difference. By your logic it does.

Throwing out the misogyny label so easily is diluting imo.

Why is it bitchy to mention plastic surgery? Celebrities should be more open about it.

I read a thread on another forum about this, and someone commented that RR isn't the nice guy behind closed doors that he would appear. Maybe this is all a little too close to home for Blake to want to be seen as some sort of ambassador....

But she doesn’t have “bad” plastic surgery. People only comment on men when it’s “bad”; they comment on women when it’s bad and when it’s good and use it as an argument that they somehow don’t deserve their career (if they don’t like her). The comments about BL having surgery are implying that getting it done was immoral and makes her less worthy.

Plus, I don’t think you could name an actress who hasn’t had something “done”.

It’s one thing to comment on what she says and how she acts - sure. But don’t say she doesn’t deserve her success because her face “isn’t her own”. I think that’s where this conversation gets a bit gross.

I also didn’t think RR was considered particularly good looking?

They are two business people

and yet so many people seem to think they owe them something

weird

Thats a really odd take imo @nuttyroche2 could you expand on it?

I couldn't care less about how women choose to look, be it clothes or plastic surgery. I don't know too much about any of the people involved here, but I did see the interview with Parker Posey. Not pleasant at all. Real mean girl stuff, and I cannot like anyone who does that.

I think it’s perfectly ok to discuss surgery, but it’s how you do it.

If you say she only got pretty/famous because of surgery - that’s bitchy. If you say - Zac Efron’s work has really changed his face - that neutral.

Blake Lively made a sarcastic comment when the Duchess of Wales (Kate) removed herself from public duties. Shame on her, she had to grovel and apologise, too late, your true colours were shown here, vile.

Agreed.

Ok, I wouldn’t criticise any actor for getting surgery but I do take umbrage with the fact the industry expects them to do it & that celebs so often lie about it. I don’t understand the point of trying to hide it tbh.

BL has had great work as I said pages back.

Refreshingly honest post @notallbloom

Typo, Princess of Wales not Duchess 🤦‍♀️

@DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace despite Me Too, women still very much have to fight for their spaces and equality with their male counterparts.

There is a difference too between the men in the industry who genuinely raise women up and those who pay lip service to it.

My OP was very clear that, although I have not met JB and his current PR team are doing an excellent job, there is at least one deplorable episode in his past.

Wrt RR my fear is that, having (effectively) purchased the whole of the city of Wrexham, he will drop it like a hot potato and walk away.
IMO Rob McElhenney is more invested, literally and figuratively.

To those writing 'phew, I'm glad TS is really nice' in my post I have tried to be measured and fair. I do encourage you to look beyond the surface.

BL and RR also got married on a plantation and didn't realise that was problematic until pointed out.