Blake Lively, RR & It Ends With Us drama

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Have NC because I freely admit that I have (limited) skin in this game, I am not entirely neutral.

This tells the story of the rift better than I could video here more about JB here JB info

Have worked for Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds in the UK, they are ...erm not my favourite slebs to work with. BL can be nasty to staff, her I'm all for women thing would be great, if she wasn't awful to them in reality. RR sometimes apologetically, always sides with BL, as his wife.
However, she does have 4 young DCs, so has spent much of the last decade pregnant, or post partum, which is enough to make anyone tired and therefore appear 'difficult'.

As I am senior in my role, stars have to treat me with some decency. Even so, the mask slips, I do everything I can to make their time in the UK as comfortable as possible, whilst placating the staff they upset, I will not work with them if I can avoid it.

Justin Baldoni directed It Ends With Us, I do not know JB.

Anti JB side (note there isn't much information about what JB has done wrong):
• He was difficult on set.
• He was acting and directing, diluting his ability to do both.
• He has hired a the firm of PR crisis manager who helped to improve Johnny Depp's image during the Amber Heard trial.
• JB has a pro 'good' men podcast called Man Enough, largely it is positive. Unfortunately he had Drake Bell on the podcast and did not question his accountability for previous SA.

Anti BL side:
• BL is trying to give the film a Barbie moment, encouraging audiences, for a film about DV, to wear florals.
• BL has objected to two things; she says JB fat-shamed her on set and, in one scene kissed her for too long (no suggestion that the kiss itself was inappropriate e.g. tongue).
• BL & RR made a cut of the film, which emphasises the rom-com of the story, rather than the DV.
• BL has corralled the author, Colleen Hoover and the cast to 'unfollow' JB on social media.
• RR rewrote a scene for the film without being asked by the director in doing so, RR broke the writer's strike.
• The cast have not been doing any press or standing on the red carpet at the premieres with JB.
• BL is using the film promo to also promote her new hair brand.

It may be that JB was a massive a-hole, or it may be that BL was a 'mean girl' and used her considerable power to influence the rest of the cast to be unpleasant to JB.
The truth could lie somewhere in the middle.

This is everything I know, I did not work on the film, or the promotion of it, so far.
I am able to agree that I have direct experience of seeing what BL and RR are like IRL, whereas I do not have the same experience of JB.
I'm prepared to accept that JB is the villain here.
I do not have any further information about this situation, if any comes my way I will, without breaking my contractual obligations, write about it here.

Earlier today I was reading about this on my newsfeed (here).

What upset me about that is BL made the comment to Kjersti Flaa - Flaa explains she was actually really hurt by that as she had tried for many years to get pregnant, and it hasn't happened for her. Being a professional she continued, but it was f*ing heinous of BL to do that.

Ed Norton was branded difficult (I think he probably is hard work). He still has quite a long and vast filmography.
The women Weinstein (falsely) accused of being "difficult to work with" (Judd, Sorvino) were effectively blacklisted.
Some method actors (LaBoeuf/Leto/Bale/Hoffman/Day Lewis) sound challenging. I cannot think of method actresses with the same reputation.
Brydon pulled up Corden for becoming a diva. Chevy Chase/Charlie Sheen haven't worked for a while.
But I can still name more women who have been called out than men.
Megan Fox/Katherine Heigl/Lea Michele/Sharon Stone/Sean Young/Debra Winger.

I think much depends on your power in the industry.

Weinstein was such a giant in Hollywood back in the day, that he could pretty much end anyone's career with a single phone call.

But if you reliably make money for the studios, your 'difficultness' will likely be tolerated, whether you're male or female.

Yes, back in the day Weinstein had so much power he could end any career in seconds and he ended some men's as well, in Hollywood at least.

I definitely agree that more women are called out than men but I think that along with the misogyny, which was even more of a reason in the past. It also comes down to bankability and unfortunately as great as some of the listed women are they weren't actors whose name alone would make a film a success. I think the reason for that is partly the way women are "marketed" in Hollywood so none of it is fair but then Hollywood has never been fair and women, on the whole, come off worse than men.

The thing is, that this thing with BL and JB is probably nothing more than a storm in a teacup. Her career wont' be ruined by this. She'll have fewer "fans" and it might hit her hair and drinks businesses more but my guess is her acting career, such as it is, will continue. This film seems like a pretty mediocre thing to be honest and all this fuss and nonsense has helped it make more money than it otherwise would. I think there's been a lot of evidence that she's rude, at the very least a bit of an arsehole and not as bright as she thinks she is but she's not going to be cancelled for that. JB might well be an arsehole as well but there's currently less evidence of that.

Ed Norton, Shia Labeouf, Alex Pettyfer have all worked steadily.

What famous man's career did Harvey Weinstein end?

Winona Ryder shoplifted some clothes and didn't work for 10 years. Women are punished much more severely.

Just found this thread- thanks for posting OP!

Re Weinstein one that I know of is Robert Lindsey, he ruined his Hollywood career, his UK career wasn't affected.

I acknowledged that women are more likely to suffer and that it's unfair and of course their careers can stop in their tracks for the sort of thing that bigger male stars get away with. Men's careers can also be stopped if they piss off the wrong person just far less often, that said it sickens me that Mel Gibson gets to be involved in films after everything he did. And none of it is fair. Also, as I said, I think BL's career is in no danger of being ruined she'll just be slightly less popular than she was.

Did lots of actresses sleep with Weinstein then in order to not lose their careers?

A lot of actresses slept with Weinstein to start, progress and maintain their career. Often unsuccessfully, no matter the lengths they went to with him.

Including (allegedly) at least one name on this thread.

@PerkyMintDeer Ooh who

5.45 "What's the most bizarre thing that you've ever read about yourself?" "That I fucked Harvey Weinstein."

Is that you Harvey?

This thread is nasty.

I'm sure that some women slept with him. Hollywood has always been sleazy and lots of people have closed their eyes and thought of their career to get ahead. I don't know if it was worse back in the studio days but if it wasn't it means it's still bloody rife now.

Anybody who slept with Weinstein to get ahead or was forced to contemplate sleeping with Weinstein to get ahead is a victim of his. He was a serial rapist and predator. Why would anyone "call out" the names of his victims like they've done something wrong?

Robert Lindsay called out Harvey Weinstein about his behaviour towards Molly Ringwald and having been cast in Shakespeare In Love, was removed from it on Weinstein's say so. He didn't have a Hollywood career after that and it was widely known that it was due to HW long, long before he was exposed and RL talked more openly about it.

I posted her rebuttal. It was not meant to be calling her out (if in fact, you were even referring to my post. Apologies if you weren't). I knew who was being alluded to. She has systematically said she didn't. I was putting that straight, from her directly on video in 2022. I agree with you - all 100 women were victims. End.

What she also said (2017)
"He was never inappropriate with me,"
"But what he did is criminal and deplorable. "And when it came out and I heard about it, I wanted to kill him. The way that he destroyed so many women's lives. I want to see him in jail."

What she then had to reiterate later (2018)
"For the record, while I was not victimized personally by Harvey Weinstein, I stand behind the women who have survived his terrible abuse, and I applaud them in using all means necessary to bring him to justice whether through criminal or civil actions. Time's up,"

Not only did Pervy Wankstain use her name to try to convince others to go along with his predation, he then allegedly used things she and a few others had said of him (that they were not harassed) as part of his defence [rage]

I wasn't referring to your post as it happens, but to another PP who said an actress named on this thread has indeed slept with Weinstein for her career, as though that was something she needed to be ashamed of rather than her having been a victim of a prolific and disgusting rapist.

Ah, missed that. Sorry. You are right in what you say.
Casting couch is and was always just another way to attack women.
Over martinis, Marilyn Monroe warned me about the Wolves of Hollywood and their depraved casting couch... She wasn't wrong! writes JOAN COLLINS | Daily Mail Online

https://thetab.com/uk/2024/08/16/blake-lively-condemned-for-promoting-her-alcoholic-drinks-company-at-it-ends-with-us-event-381220#:~:text=Blake%20Lively%20created%20her%20alcoholic,Buzz%20which%20launched%20in%202022.

So she doesn't drink but promotes a brand of alcoholic drinks. And I didn't realise that the 'cutesie' branding of the drinks extended to calling one of the drinks after the abusive character. Not to mention how often alcohol exacerbates dv. Tone deaf doesn't begin to describe her behaviour.

Ok that is just fucked.
An alcoholic drink named after the abuser???
This is gross. Really gross.

Having seen many pictures of the premieres and all the hype I assumed it was a cheesy love story with a feminist twist as it seemed to be very much about BL

what a bizarre promotional campaign for a film that is about the complexities of dv

what idiot thought this is a good way to promote this film I am not surprised there has been a backlash unless that was the plan all along 😬 adds an interesting twist to the drama

Just seen the name of the cocktail is ‘Ryle you wait’

Made using her Betty Booze products at the premiere of the movie.

Im actually lost for words

I stumbled into this whole thing randomly on IG a couple of days ago. As someone who generally doesn't follow celebrity gossip, I'm surprised by how caught up in it I've become😳
Tried to remain objective initially as obviously no-one really knows what happened on set and there are inevitably going to be conflicts creatively between individuals some of the time. Plus both PR teams seem to be working overtime to find dirt/spread rumours about the other.
But the marketing has been really crass by BL's team and I find it bizarre that she seems to gloss over the DV issues in the film in interviews rather than just do a bit of research and have some thoughtful answers prepared for the inevitable questions about it. The questions even just seem to irritate her, like she'd rather be talking about what she wants (be it florals, Ryan or whatever brand of hers she's plugging). JB's interviews OTOH seem genuine, thoughtful and committed to raising awareness of DV. Plus he has been very complimentary about her publicly, while she won't even refer to him by name and gives the impression of getting her "squad" of co-stars and CH to do the same.
I did quite like RR and BL previously and really enjoyed the new Deadpool film but I think a previous poster hit the nail on the head when they mentioned oversaturation - he seems to to have been everywhere over the last year with his other films, Welcome to Wrexham and business ventures. Him inserting himself into the press for this movie (and dragging Hugh Jackman along ffs) is just so unnecessary, inappropriate and annoying.
The thing that has really turned me off her forever though is that old "baby bump" video - she was an absolute bitch to that reporter and there's absolutely no excuse for behaviour like that.

JB's interviews OTOH seem genuine, thoughtful and committed to raising awareness of DV.

Purely from YT algorithm I caught an interview with him and I was really surprised - he seems to get it, care about DV, and understand that discussion of it is integral to the film’s publicity - in a way that BL simply does not.

Whatever he was like to work with he comes across as more serious and more professional. I can see how there would be clashes on set with these attitudes - I don’t think she gets it at all.

I find it bizarre that she seems to gloss over the DV issues in the film in interviews rather than just do a bit of research and have some thoughtful answers prepared for the inevitable questions about it. The questions even just seem to irritate her

I agree.

I saw a really weird clip where she goes up to an interviewer (man with dark hair and glasses) on the red carpet at the premier, and the interaction goes like this:
Him "hi Blake, so a lot of victims of"
Her, interrupting completely "you look like superman!!!!"

The question is obviously going to be about victims of DV, and she just totally cuts him off to exclaim that he looks like superman. Really odd thing to do.