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If we suddenly had to go into a 3 month lockdown again, how would you feel?

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LaurieFairyCake · 15/08/2024 22:52

I think people would definitely comply. If it was Mpox I would want a smallpox vaccine as it's somewhat effective.

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Jeezitneverends · 16/08/2024 09:38

MonsteraMama · 15/08/2024 23:08

I got furloughed last time and had an absolute jolly of a year doing absolutely fuck all and getting paid for it.

I still wouldn't be doing it again, not a chance.

I’m so glad you enjoyed your time off which as an emergency service worker I still went to work, and I’ll be paying for your jolly for the rest of my life…we also enjoyed dh being on 80% pay WHILST STILL DOING HIS JOB! That took a while to recover from, whilst still paying for your jolly.

As long as you enjoyed it though

HelenWheels · 16/08/2024 09:39

the affect on the elderly, on child protection, the disabled was appalling. let alone mental health

ButtSurgery · 16/08/2024 09:39

LaurieFairyCake · 15/08/2024 22:52

I think people would definitely comply. If it was Mpox I would want a smallpox vaccine as it's somewhat effective.

My mum had the smallpox vaccine and it nearly killed her. My grandfather refused to allow the other 8 kids to have it. The scars on her arm are enormous.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/monkeypox-vaccination-resources/protecting-you-from-monkeypox-information-on-the-smallpox-vaccination

It's also a live vaccination virus, so you have to be careful about not spreading it to vulnerable people (not smallpox itself, the vaccinated virus!).

Mpox is complicated, and so are the vaccinations.

Protecting you from mpox (monkeypox): information on the smallpox vaccination

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/monkeypox-vaccination-resources/protecting-you-from-monkeypox-information-on-the-smallpox-vaccination

Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/08/2024 09:39

Tbh I think people saying they wouldn't participate, are arseholes
You literally had to sit in your house for a while. I don't get why that was a problem

And so it starts ...

LlamaNoDrama · 16/08/2024 09:40

It would totally depend on why. I don't think they'd lock us down again unless it was very serious though.

Peakpeakpeak · 16/08/2024 09:40

MaybeSmaller · 16/08/2024 09:37

To my mind there is a "Goldilocks" set of conditions that means a lockdown would ever have been complied with at all.

Anything significantly less deadly than covid and nobody would take it seriously. (TBH it was only the novel and unknown nature of covid that meant people ever took it seriously at all.)

Significantly more deadly, though, and society would just collapse as emergency workers, medical staff, utilities staff, delivery drivers, etc. would be too scared to leave the house. You'd be looking at more of a 28 Days Later/Children of Men scenario, than the sort of lockdown where white collar workers sunned themselves in the garden at home while blue collar and NHS staff still turned up to work every day without complaint.

There won't be any sort of lockdown or restrictions on normal life for mpox. It's considered very low risk in Western countries, there are effective vaccines and treatments for it, and even the deadlier variant now circulating in Africa is spread by very close contact. The stated justification for lockdown was to flatten the curve to stop the NHS being totally overwhelmed with Covid cases. It's impossible to envisage that happening with mpox.

Goldilocks is a good way of putting it.

There are a looooot of posts in this thread that don't consider this vitally important aspect of the issue at all. It's always the way. People don't like the idea of the population simply not having it, so reach for the comfort blanket of saying you'll have to behave if it's really bad. Well no, actually, there's another much more unpleasant option!

OpalBird · 16/08/2024 09:42

TennisLady · 16/08/2024 09:09

Love the recent discussions I've seen on this here and social media people confidently saying they wouldn't bother following any lockdown or rules. Bet they'll sharp change their mind though if it kills people/children 🙄

Damage to mental health can also kill people. I'd find a balance.

Yalta · 16/08/2024 09:42

Wombbaalaa · 16/08/2024 05:58

I can’t quite imagine it but I’m amused at the people saying they wouldn’t comply with restrictions. I mean for example, if you hear in October that three kids in your child’s class have monkeypox, are you sending them to school? 😵‍💫

I would be more worried about what those children have gotten up to considering it is considered an STI

Notthatcatagain · 16/08/2024 09:43

MavisPennies · 15/08/2024 23:30

A lockdown for mpox would be stupid. To catch it you have to be actually touching someone's broken skin.

I understand that the latest strain is airborn

TennisLady · 16/08/2024 09:43

OpalBird · 16/08/2024 09:42

Damage to mental health can also kill people. I'd find a balance.

I think everyone would have damaged mental health if a more serious pandemic killing people and children were to happen!

Meadowwild · 16/08/2024 09:45

I wouldn't do it. My father spent lockdown absolutely isolated in hospital, unable to even speak on the phone to family because his hands couldn't hold a mobile and nurses were to busy to help. he thought we'd abandoned him. He died soon after in a really horrible nursing home - the only one that would take him.
SEN DS was alone at uni - no one else in his flat – which led to something close to a breakdown and he was almost anorexic.

Unless better measures were put in place to protect the emotional wellbeing of the vulnerable I would ignore all rules that did not take into account the equall importance of mental as well as physical health.

FourChimneys · 16/08/2024 09:45

I understand why people are saying they wouldn't comply.

Personally I would, but simply because I have virtually no immune system. Reading the evidence so far, isolating would seem to reduce my chance of dying. I can't say I am looking forward to the prospect of it though.

OpalBird · 16/08/2024 09:46

TennisLady · 16/08/2024 09:43

I think everyone would have damaged mental health if a more serious pandemic killing people and children were to happen!

Due to the impact on my son's mental health, I had already resolved that we wouldn't be following any further lock downs during Covid. I won't follow this one either for the same reasons. He won't handle it.

I'm normally very law abiding.

That's not to say I'd be stupid about it, but the activities my son needs to stay well are pretty much zero risk and we will find a way to do those.

If it was just about me, bring it on. I didn't mind lock down at all.

TennisLady · 16/08/2024 09:46

Yalta · 16/08/2024 09:42

I would be more worried about what those children have gotten up to considering it is considered an STI

Clade Ib is spreading person to person, often via sexual contact, but also through other physical and face-to-face contact, or via contaminated bedding or towels. Dr Rosamund Lewis, the World Health Organization (WHO) lead for mpox, said: “We don’t know that it’s more transmissible, but it is transmitting through an efficient mode.”

FrenchandSaunders · 16/08/2024 09:46

A huge amount of people would ignore it. They will never ever get that level of compliance again, it just wouldn't happen.

Yalta · 16/08/2024 09:46

TennisLady · 16/08/2024 09:43

I think everyone would have damaged mental health if a more serious pandemic killing people and children were to happen!

I know more people who died by suicide because of various governments around the world having their version of Lockdowns than I do who died of Covid

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TennisLady · 16/08/2024 09:48

Yalta · 16/08/2024 09:46

I know more people who died by suicide because of various governments around the world having their version of Lockdowns than I do who died of Covid

I wasn't talking about covid. I said a more serious pandemic, that would cause society to shut down.

Differentstarts · 16/08/2024 09:49

Iwasafool · 16/08/2024 08:43

I remember the small pox outbreaks in the 60s, we didn't lockdown then although I remember people queuing for hours to get vaccinated. There was a surgery in the road where I lived and the queue would be out onto the pavement and stretch for 400 or 500 yards down the road, that doctor was working 14 hrs a day.

I wonder if smallpox jabs all those years ago still gives us some protection?

Yes it says older people are mainly covered it's more children and pregnant women that are effected which is why I'm surprised with the response as I assumed that was the main users of mumsnet. Although I think people would soon change their mind if children started dying in the UK.

Yalta · 16/08/2024 09:49

I also know more people who had their long term health and mental health affected by lockdowns than I know who died of Covid

The lockdowns can be worse than the actual disease

dontforgetme · 16/08/2024 09:50

No fucking chance. I would be sensible and stay away from the people I needed too but not leaving my house except for one hour a day exercise, getting literally screamed at for my 4 yr old eating a packet of crisps on the bench in the park, neighbours spying and judging neighbours. Watching my nan cry during a masked up, 2 metres apart door step Christmas present swap. Absolutely no fucking chance.

We were very lucky in that we had our own garden but my dd went completely into herself and her education suffered massively.

HelenWheels · 16/08/2024 09:50

shut the borders? what by plane
what about by sea?
by dinghies?

louderthan · 16/08/2024 09:50

I would love it. It won't happen though.

Cyclingmummy1 · 16/08/2024 09:51

Jeezitneverends · 16/08/2024 09:38

I’m so glad you enjoyed your time off which as an emergency service worker I still went to work, and I’ll be paying for your jolly for the rest of my life…we also enjoyed dh being on 80% pay WHILST STILL DOING HIS JOB! That took a while to recover from, whilst still paying for your jolly.

As long as you enjoyed it though

Edited

Totally agree. DH was put on 90%, allegedly could take a half day off each week (with nowhere to go) and was pretty much forced at the end of the leave year to take accrued holiday at 100% whilst only accruing it at 90%. Meanwhile, colleagues who were furloughed accrued full holiday whilst sitting at home and then could carry it over 'because they had no opportunity to take it'.

As a teacher who saw how little other people respected the rules, I'd be reluctant to enter another lockdown.

Peakpeakpeak · 16/08/2024 09:51

TennisLady · 16/08/2024 09:48

I wasn't talking about covid. I said a more serious pandemic, that would cause society to shut down.

If it was that serious, the level of trust in the authorities needed for people to lock down can't be assumed to be there. I agree mental health would be pretty bad though!

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