If we suddenly had to go into a 3 month lockdown again, how would you feel?

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I think people would definitely comply. If it was Mpox I would want a smallpox vaccine as it's somewhat effective.

Absolutely not. There should never have been a lockdown for Covid. The fact that people are normalising it is quite frightening to me.

No one is normalising it. If lockdowns were "normalised" OP wouldn't have started this thread.

Absolutely fucking not. We carry on.

I can't tell if you're talking about something more deadly than covid there? If you are, anything really dangerous runs the risk of basic societal functions not happening anyway. Lockdown is a policy that only worked to the extent it did in an environment where enough things were able to keep going. It's the 'sweet spot' I mentioned a few pages back. People being scared enough to comply, but not so scared that things stop working. I'm not sure that space actually exists at the moment, not after what happened last time.

If you're talking covid with a different risk profile, then some people would be scared and lock down. Absolutely. But not everyone has or is particularly bothered about children. And we know that teens and young people don't do risk benefit very well and aren't the best at recognising their own mortality. If we had a disease that meant everyone aged 15-20 would be better isolating, it doesn't follow that they'd do it.

Pretty sure I read there's an Mpox vaccine - but there's not enough availability in the affected countries who might anyway be reluctant to take it up. If Mpox was going out of control in Europe though you could bet your bottom dollar that they'd ramp up making it and it would be widely available.

The reason so many children are dying in Africa in my understanding is because they play very closely together so it spreads and then they have poor nutrition and poor immune systems so struggle to fight it off.

They is no way there will be an Mpox lockdown in the UK, much as I enjoyed the peace and sunshine of the last one.

I don't see it happening at the moment. The reason for that is because for a lockdown to happen, there needs to be a sweet spot of people being scared enough to go along with it but not so scared that things stop functioning ...

I wouldn't worry, @Peakpeakpeak; if a scare is wanted then a scare will be manufactured. We've already seen how it's done and in fact it's happening again already with threads such as this, with comments about a 10% mortality rate when in fact it's said to be 4.5% - and that's in the areas most affected where health care's notoriously poor

Never mind though; if governments wish to extend their manic experiment in control and suppliers perceive another massive payday the scare will doubtless be along soon enough

If it’s true that this strain has a 4.5% mortality rate then that’s pretty terrifying if it got a hold.

Closing the borders and quarantining any incomers would be the answer.

M-Pox wont be it but a virulent virus, with no vaccine & a 20% + mortality rate and people would be locking themselves and others away.

Just look historically what we used to do.

My thing is that I think any such scare would have to be much bigger than covid was, because of the experience we've already have of pandemic, restrictions and the behaviour of the government. To the extent that I'd be sceptical we'd be able to keep things functioning to the level we did last time. It really is quite a delicate process.

i had to work through the pandemic, in the office
my dc at home went out for walks more than once a day.

no, i cant imagine another lock down,
it wont happen
people will not comply again

Nope I wouldn't ever follow the rules again. My mum died during lockdown. I missed alot of time with her, because I was busy home schooling 2 children, as all the schools were closed. While parliament had parties!

Not on your nellie.

Please don't hate me, but I would be as happy as a lark!
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I suspect the people saying they wouldn’t comply have a mental image of themselves carrying on as normal and not catching it or being ill. It’s easy to say when you think “I’ll be fine” but if (and it’s a big if) there’s a genuine risk and people start dying then I think they’d feel differently

I think I would love it. During Covid I was working all through and felt so tired and rightly or wrongly, envious of those that had to stay home. I think being confined to staying home would be so nice. No pressure to "get out there".

Obviously I realise it's not the same for everyone and is downright dangerous for some. But from a completely selfish point of view I would like it.

Tbh I think people saying they wouldn't participate, are arseholes.

Lock down was wise and for monkey pox, which looks way worse than covid, I think I'd be even stricter on sticking to the rules.

You literally had to sit in your house for a while. I don't get why that was a problem. Sure I can see there might be some exceptions such as not being able to see elderly parents when they are really sick. But for the majority of us it should have been easy most of the time.

I think lockdown showed that we clearly have very shaudy mental health as a country.
We were asked to literally park our asses for a bit and the amount of whinging people still do about it is laughable.

I suspect a lot have a mental image of themselves when they didn't comply last time. That's what seems to be getting missed in a lot of posts here, non-compliance with lockdown is not a new thing for a great many people. There are loads who have pretty recent lived experience of it!

It won't happen even though there are posters practically salivating at the thought of another lockdown, I remember a few years ago when the Ebola virus was spreading throughout Africa at an alarming rate, then cases of the virus were being reported in Europe, it came to nothing in the end so it's very unlikely a lockdown will happen.

Exactly this. Everyone just confidently saying a blanket no to ever locking down again is quite amusing. It won't always 'just be covid' if another serious pandemic happened.

It would definitely be harder this time because now we have children.

However, I respect lockdown and would follow the rules I’m not sure the rest of the nation would be so eager to follow them again.

It wouldn't bother me cause we have no local family. So we always go 3 months without them. I'd still be going into work, as I did last time. So not as much would change for me. Noone would do it after our own government couldn't even stop their own parties though!

I think stopping flights from Heathrow to Nairobi could be a good idea though. After the case in Sweden. Them Keeping an eye on cases and stopping flights to various countries if it spreads more.

I'd comply but if I thought the rules weren't carefully thought through or consistent, my compliance would be reluctant and with some resentment.

I enjoyed the previous lockdowns, but I also know that we were extremely privileged with our home, space, jobs that we do from home and our DC were young enough to benefit from us being together. Also, we don’t have close families (I really enjoyed Christmas without my in-laws 😂) and friends live far away anyway.

The previous restrictions were far too draconian!! Especially thinking back on the abhorrent hypocritical behaviour the politicians.

I would comply with another lockdown. I’m more worried about mpox than covid.

I think any such scare would have to be much bigger than covid was, because of the experience we've already have of pandemic, restrictions and the behaviour of the government

No doubt, @Peakpeakpeak, but if that's what they want the same people will be available to supply it with models guesswork and manipulated stats, and the same posters - already noticeable from last time - will be insisting that there's "no alternative"

To my mind there is a "Goldilocks" set of conditions that means a lockdown would ever have been complied with at all.

Anything significantly less deadly than covid and nobody would take it seriously. (TBH it was only the novel and unknown nature of covid that meant people ever took it seriously at all.)

Significantly more deadly, though, and society would just collapse as emergency workers, medical staff, utilities staff, delivery drivers, etc. would be too scared to leave the house. You'd be looking at more of a 28 Days Later/Children of Men scenario, than the sort of lockdown where white collar workers sunned themselves in the garden at home while blue collar and NHS staff still turned up to work every day without complaint.

There won't be any sort of lockdown or restrictions on normal life for mpox. It's considered very low risk in Western countries, there are effective vaccines and treatments for it, and even the deadlier variant now circulating in Africa is spread by very close contact. The stated justification for lockdown was to flatten the curve to stop the NHS being totally overwhelmed with Covid cases. It's impossible to envisage that happening with mpox.