If we suddenly had to go into a 3 month lockdown again, how would you feel?

[LaurieFairyCake]

I think people would definitely comply. If it was Mpox I would want a smallpox vaccine as it's somewhat effective.

@sandrapinchedmysandwich

Exactly. I have read on here " I want a lockdown to get out of weddings" " I want lockdown so I can do my 'life laundry'" " I want another lockdown if it's glorious weather and to enjoy a slower pace of life" . Selfish, short sighted, tone deaf idiots the lot of them 😡

I'm pretty sure the people posting things like that were joking !

Although I do wonder whether posters who have said how much they enjoyed the summer lockdown, spending time in the garden with their families, have forgotten the one in January/February 2021. Perhaps they had given up complying by that time.

@taxguru
Your response to @SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius comes over as being in a very rude tone . If you actually read to the bottom of her comments, she was not advocating a further lockdown- pretty much saying the same as you were.

Only for as long as it’s an immediate problem. A year later, they couldn’t care less. Also, if too many die at once they’ll declare a state of emergency and order mass cremations. Morgue space doesn’t come into it.

Inquiries only matter if the findings are made public. If the deaths occur during a state of emergency they probably don’t have to publish the results. Or if they do, it’s considered ‘during unprecedented times’.

This government has been clear - no tax rises for working people, and if you can work you should work. Work is what matters.

So they’ve taken from the elderly, declaring an annual income of £12,000pa to be sufficiently wealthy to not need the winter fuel allowance. Pensioners aren’t ’working people’. And neither are many of the long-term disabled.

Personal tragedies are irrelevant.

I'll never understand the I won't follow the rules because Boris didnt conversation.
He was a very foolish man about it, you would have thought being so ill with it himself would have made him wary.
I wouldn't say I had a lovely time on furlough,I made the best of it.
I didn't see my partner for 4 months likewise many family members.
I was glad to go back after the first lockdown but continued with covering for another year at least.

Of course the government don't care if you die, didn't Boris say let the bodies pile high rather than have a third lockdown.

Just to clarify, you’re entirely wrong. I never said covid wasn’t real. PianPianPiano has it quite right that my comment was in relation to the lockdown / vaccine aspect of your statement. My fault for not specifying that initially.

OK that's fine thanks for clarifying I appreciate it

The covid and lockdown deniers are completely bonkers. To suggest the interest rate rise and mess the UK is in is because of Covid shows incredible stupidity. That is down to 14 years of loony tories

I wouldn't comply.
LD1 worked well for us in a way as dc had just been born. Dh furlough so was like extra paternity really and we'd just moved so had chance to decorate.
We didn't comply with LD2 as the rules were just ridiculous

Are you OK?

Of course Covid has affected the country financially!

Yeah because the Tories stole all the money during covid.. Masive fraud by the Tories Dohhh www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/08/covid-corruption-commissioner-recoup-lost-billions-labour

People who get all weird about Covid lockdowns have some sort of social issue. Possibly mainstream personality disorder... look that one up. The Lockdowns were late coming because the UK had a "Trolley" for a PM

Fraud by the Tories during Covid cost the UK Billions ... https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/22/reeves-to-appoint-covid-corruption-tsar-to-claw-back-billions-of-waste

didn't and couldn't last time due to my job.. so its unlikely to happen for me again!

Are you kidding? Don't you know anything about cross infection?

Theirs definitely a lot of people with narcissistic personality disorder on this thread

@taxguru - my post was in response to this dialogue between @Lobberto and @Differentstarts:

“Differentstarts · Today 07:38
You do realise a lot of people died from covid and a lot have long covid right. The lockdown was needed to protect people until a vaccine was available
@Lobberto -
People still believe that?”

I was explaining why I believe that lockdowns probably helped to limit the spread of covid. The fewer people someone sees, the less chance they have of contracting whatever disease the lockdown is meant to control. I’m not sure why that deserved such a snippy response from you.

As it happens, I agree with what you said about another legal lockdown being a bad thing, and about masks, protecting workers who can’t work from home, keeping schools open etc.

Other pandemics possibly but if this one became an issue schools would need to be the first places to close as this mainly effects kids. The death rate is 10% in children. That means every school class of 30 kids, 3 would die I can't imagine many wanting to send their kids with them odds

That's "only" £2.6 billion. The total costs of Covid (furlough, grants, loss of tax revenue, extra staffing of test centres, adjustments to premises etc) was hundreds of billions! Completely different scale. Not saying we should ignore the fraud, but given the total cost/loss due to covid, it's small change!

Of course lockdowns helped prevent Covid spread. The issue is whether other ways could have still saved lives without the disastrous repercussions of shutting down the economy and keeping so many people apart. I.e. the "tipping point" where lockdowns do more harm than good (in other ways). It's simply not feasible to keep locking down and trashing the economy and causing deaths etc in a different way.

This.

And it brought out a nasty streak in some people who perhaps already had controlling tendencies. People spying on what the neighbours who weren't complying were doing. Threads started about the neighbours next door having a barbeque and should they report them.

Two that stood out on MN:

One person starting a thread about her relative or neighbour who refused to wear a mask whilst walking the dog. Alone. In the middle of nowhere.

Another where someone refused to allow their widowed child's grandfather to visit his only granddaughter and stay because he refused the vaccine. He would only be allowed if he had the vaccine. Vaccine or no visit.

Anyone who disagreed with any of this was labelled a selfish, anti-vaxxer (regardless of how many prior vaccines we'd ever had in our lives) tinpot hat wearing, conspiracist.

I also remember the culpability of the news broadcasters continuing to ramp up fear by quoting the weekly covid cases and death tolls every day without context. Drove my mother to depression and severe anxiety and she wouldn't turn off the news!

My healthcare liberty was also infringed upon. I went for a routine thyroid test thinking that was all that was going to be done and the hospital performed a covid antibody test with my blood sample that I neither requested, was appraised of, or consulted about.

I had antibodies from catching it 7 months earlier. I was notified I had Covid when I didn't and the hospital added it to the number of 'daily cases' that were no doubt added to the daily news reels.

It really showed me how easily fear can be used to madden the crowd.

The £500 billion spent on Covid measures increasing national debt from £2 to £2.5 trillion, the resulting high interest bill (where the UK spends more servicing its national debt than Greece, that the UK Government spends the same on debt interest as education. The lack of improvement in productivity post Covid that every country in Europe has seen except the UK.

The rise in mental health issues, the sharp increase of not in work but not claiming benefits.

All these are down to the Covid measures (put in place by the Tories) and not actions taken by the Tories prior to Covid.

@DysonSphere

"It really showed me how easily fear can be used to madden the crowd."

Have a read of J K Rowlings "Icakabog". It's a children's book ( so you can also have it as a bedtime story as well) but in a very "Animal Farm" way you can read it from an adult perspective about using fear to control the crowd and profit from it.

Lockdown 2 was November 2020 Lots of parents tend to forget this because schools were open.
People running businesses dont forget it though. Neither do the child free

And here we have it .... Psychology of people and Lockdown behaviour royalholloway.ac.uk/research-and-teaching/departments-and-schools/psychology/news/new-research-reveals-psychological-factors-behind-adherence-and-violation-of-pandemic-restrictions/