If we suddenly had to go into a 3 month lockdown again, how would you feel?

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I think people would definitely comply. If it was Mpox I would want a smallpox vaccine as it's somewhat effective.

NO WAY

Still dealing with mental health impact on my DCs from last time. It devastated DS and he's still struggling, DD was in senior school and also struggled I couldn't home educate and work from home.. it was awful. We were usually all in tears by lunch time.. even panic attacks

All very well fir the the furloughed or stay at home parents to home educate but I simply couldn't do it again .. used to cry myself to sleep once id got tjere at about 2am having done the days paid work i couldnt do with kids about dreading the next day...f*cking hated the furloughed parents putting up pictures of their lovely craft work or perfectly completed projects up while tje rest of us struggled on.

Key workers did an amazing job but at least they were allowed to send their DCs to school.. those working from home and home educating got tje worst of both worlds

Awful, horrific time.. definitely not helped by our furloughed childless neighbours living it up..

Never ever again .. 😥

I think the scenes in Italy of overwhelmed hospitals made people take it seriously. Anyone who was in contact with someone in Italy (I was through business) will probably have memories of Italians asking why we weren't doing something before we were in their situation.

Realistically the country cannot afford it. Furlough , which did not apply in public services, would be unlikely to be offered by the current government.

The toll lockdown and its attendant poorly thought decisions has taken on our economy, and on the great health of society , is too awful to contemplate again, so soon. Way to write off the hopes and lives of Gen Z

@ButtSurgery It's also a live vaccination virus, so you have to be careful about not spreading it to vulnerable people (not smallpox itself, the vaccinated virus!).

No it's a modified live virus so it can't spread to other people, nor replicate in one's body.

Happy as Larry 😆

I've got cancer through, and had it all through the pandemic so all this stuff really fucks with my life. It doesn't matter what my own take on these things are, if I catch any crazy illnesses then my treatment gets stopped by the hospital. I'm not willing to risk my life to please clueless judgy folk who call me a sheep.

I think people with certain health conditions are really the only ones who'd actually need to do it again - at least for a while if things are unknown.

We are still paying the price for the last lot of lockdowns. Have we learnt nothing from the mess to the economy that they caused, and that's not even taking into account people's mental health and children's education.

But what would a “more serious” pandemic look like because if a pandemic is that serious then there is no reason to lock down as we would be screwed either way.

I think there is some research going on as to whether it can be transmitted via respiratory secretions but that doesn't necessarily imply airborne transmission.

Airborne implies it hangs around in the air on dust particles or droplets and can infect people not in the same room or even after someone has left the room. This happens with covid but there is no evidence of that for mpox.

I would say a pandemic that killed 10% of children was pretty serious

Let's not forget that less than 0.5% of the UK population died of covid. Obv that is still a hell of a lot of people and I feel for anyone who lost a loved one during that time. Add in the age of some of those people (very elderly). It's not what the press like to convey but it's a fact.

If a virus was killing children and young people, without 'existing health conditions' (because a lot of people decided to just write people with those off last time) - I can bet that people would be following a lockdown and wouldn't be sending Johnny off to mix with his friends because of 'mental health.'

I had GS living with me, he was also at senior school. At senior school age didn't they just get on with it? I remember nagging him to get out of bed and do his online lessons but that was as bad as it got and wasn't that different to nagging him to get out of bed and go to school, in fact as it was an hour later it was probably easier.

Obviously younger children would need more support but at secondary school age I would think most would be capable of independent studying particularly with the online stuff.

Covid was airborne (pretty obvious by the infection patterns despite it being denied for ages until the mask mandate came out). Mpox is a contact disease. There is no need for any lockdown.

Do you think more would have died if we didn't have lockdown?

I'd say 'most' not 'some'. Average age of death was 86.

I personally loved lockdown but I'm privileged in the way I got to spend it. I wouldn't mind another one at all, but my kids are older now and would probably be really sad missing out on friends so I'd prefer we didn't lock down.

I think people are very full of it with what they would or wouldn't comply with though.

There's not a disease on the planet that would make me agree to another lockdown. It was a complete fucking disaster, in fact the whole way Covid was handled was scandalous and we will be paying for it for decades.

Thank you.

Indeed it would be. So serious that the building blocks for lockdown wouldn't be in place, because lockdown is a policy that needs society to be functioning.

Put bluntly, if 10% of children were dead, you couldn't assume you'd stay fed or that order wouldn't break down.

I think the scenes in Italy of overwhelmed hospitals made people take it seriously

Would that be like the one of patients sitting outside because there was no room in the facility, which turned out to have been taken in Tunisia at another time and in completely different circumstances?

As detailed here, not everything seen in the media - and especially social media - is necessarily to be relied on:

https://factcheck.afp.com/Covid-19-Real-images-wrong-context

It was never just one hour a day exercise, that was just something Gove said in passing as what he thought was suitable, it was never in any restrictions

It won’t happen from mpoz but if it did no I wouldn’t comply again.

The effect it had on my mental health was awful. And ofcourse there was no help from the NHS so I had to spend thousands on private therapy.

Exh had cancer throughout the last lockdown. He recovered from the cancer but after the first “isolate at home” for those with serious illnesses (he is also type 1 diabetic) he swore he would never do lockdowns again it affected him so badly that he was considering that death by Covid was the better option than going through another lockdown, so ignored all the other “isolate because you are vulnerable”instructions
He hasn’t worked ever again. The affect to his mental physical and financial health did him so much damage that he was unrecognisable as the person he was before and will never recover from

Some of us don't have children in that age group. I have an immune suppressed person in the house who was in hospital with Covid. I also have someone whose mental health couldn't survive another lock down. I will not be following lock down rules (though not associating with crowds either).

Depends.

Mpox as is now, no lockdown required.

Mpox mutates to be more infectious and equally virulent (like smallpox), we will all be locking ourselves down.

But I think we will avoid another lockdown unless it is absolutely necessary.