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I'm so fucking angry. My poor neighbour daren't go to work because of the thugs.

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alrightluv · 05/08/2024 17:54

Just been talking to my neighbour. He and his family are Nigerian. They haven't been here that long. Both work. They have small dcs.
He's had to take today off work as he works in a town that's been targeted and he's scared to travel.

I'm in tears I'm so angry. Those bastards wouldn't know how to fucking spell work. Luckily I got inside before I broke down. Dh is also teary. They're the loveliest family. I'm genuinely scared for my African neighbours. There's a lot of families moved here from the south because of a housing shortage. All of them that I've met are decent lovely people. Wish I could say the same for a lot of people who are from here.

We're broken aren't we? What the fuck is to be done?

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alrightluv · 06/08/2024 09:51

@Abigail47 who's saying this has just happened? We all know they're there. It's just that they're coming out of the woodwork more and more and don't seem to care about the consequences. People have been murdered through racism for many years. We can read here about racism people have experienced. It's nothing new.
SM is highlighting everything now So we see it all. Plus it's easier for them to organise their riots/meetings. These riots aren't stopping anytime soon imo.
People are going to die(again). And it probably won't be the rioters.

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alrightluv · 06/08/2024 09:55

@Abigail47 that teacher should have been sacked. Thank you for sharing your story. I'm so sorry your family have been subjected to this.
I'm ashamed to be white British right now. I know that's stupid but I feel ashamed that I live in such a hateful society.

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alrightluv · 06/08/2024 10:05

Has there been any rioting in Bradford?

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Hoppinggreen · 06/08/2024 10:20

alrightluv · 06/08/2024 10:05

Has there been any rioting in Bradford?

I don't think so.
They tried in my Town yesterday (not far from Bradford) but about 10 morons turned up, wandered about a bit being largely ignored by 2 vans full of Police and then left again.
Unfortunately lots of shops closed early and people avoided the Town Centre just in case so it was a bit disruptive

JMSA · 06/08/2024 10:21

I feel so bad for you all Sad
So far there doesn't seem to be anything like this in Scotland.

Abigail47 · 06/08/2024 10:23

I've lived in other countries. There is racism and xenophobia in every country that I've lived in. Not just the UK. It's the same mentality everywhere.

It seems to be driven by a misguided notion of : humans think they own a patch of land. We own this land. Its ours. And foreigners are not welcome here

Then they put visas and hoops that foreigners have to jump through to say that they can stay on the land.

Yet even when these people are granted citizenship, they are looked down on as " new land".

So if a person's parents move to the UK, and they have a child born in the UK, that child will be looked down on as "not really from the UK".

It's like new money. I was in Ireland last week and I have an Irish friend there who is married to a Nigerian woman. They have a daughter. The daughter puts up online videos about life in Ireland and being irish. They told me she gets comments all the time that she is not really irish. Even though she was born in Ireland to an Irish father. Like people make such a stupid big deal about nationality

People want you to have lived in a place for ten generations before they see you as being from that place.

When in reality no one owns a patch of land. People move around all the time.

if you look back far enough, a lot of our ancestors moved to the UK from other countries too

alrightluv · 06/08/2024 10:33

@Hoppinggreen thought not. I'm glad nothing happened where you are.

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alrightluv · 06/08/2024 10:35

@Abigail47 have you witnessed rioting on this scale in those countries? Just curious as I've only lived in England.

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Abigail47 · 06/08/2024 10:39

alrightluv · 06/08/2024 10:35

@Abigail47 have you witnessed rioting on this scale in those countries? Just curious as I've only lived in England.

Yes there were recently a lot of riots in Ireland about immigrants.

The rioters set fire to hotels where immigrants were staying in Ireland.

There were a huge amount of riots all over Ireland. Earlier this year

Abigail47 · 06/08/2024 10:42

The riots in Ireland were also sparked by certain events.
A non Irish man murdered an Irish woman.
And a non Irish man attacked some people outside a school in dublin.
These two events sparked the riots.
But the hatred in those people against foreigners were there already

You could point out to them that plenty of Irish men have murdered Irish women but they will still say that foreigners are responsible for all the wrongdoing

alrightluv · 06/08/2024 10:48

@Abigail47 yes you can't argue with people who only have 2 brain cells fighting over 3rd place.

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alrightluv · 06/08/2024 11:36

Spoke to neighbour. Her dh has gone to work today so hopefully he'll be ok? I said she has to tell me if we can help she said she will. I told her about my friend offering money and she was so grateful not at all insulted or at least didn't seem it? I said I know he doesn't know you but he's just a kind man. Her dh isn't losing a wage as he's swapped days.

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 06/08/2024 11:53

sunflowrsngunpowdr
By labelling all of these people as racists the left have created a 'far right' that didn't exist 10 years ago. 10 years ago they were just people asking legit questions

Oh, the White Defence League existed; the British National Party existed; the National Front existed; The British Movement existed; there have been a lot of far-right and downright neo-Nazi groups in this country, going back to the 1930s (ie even before and during the war against Hitler and the National Socialist Part in Germany). They have all sung the same tune: "keep out the nasty foreigners with the wrong colour skin, keep England Pure for the Pure English" (as if such a thing has ever existed!). Telling it how it is about them – that they are bigoted, racist thugs – has not been the cause of their existing.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_far-right_groups_(1945%E2%80%93present)

Back in the mid-sixties the son of a friend of mine, white and born in this country, was called a Paki by half-a-dozen thugs and driven out of a park by them. He is as English as I am, for all that his father was a refugee from the Nazis in Poland (and fought against them once he got here). He just happens to have features they mistakenly assumed were from further East than that. And in the mid-1980s I, born here and with ancestors here traceable back to church records from 1315 in Yorkshire, was told to go back to where I came from by a foul-mouthed woman outside the primary school where we were picking up our children. i think she thought my wearing my hair in plaits meant that I must be Foreign. It was funny in a way, because she was quite definitely Irish herself, but also frightening because her venom was so extreme.

Believe me, racism has been around for a long time; it is just being magnified by social media liars and bots and shills.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 06/08/2024 11:54

alrightluv · 06/08/2024 11:36

Spoke to neighbour. Her dh has gone to work today so hopefully he'll be ok? I said she has to tell me if we can help she said she will. I told her about my friend offering money and she was so grateful not at all insulted or at least didn't seem it? I said I know he doesn't know you but he's just a kind man. Her dh isn't losing a wage as he's swapped days.

I am very glad to read this.

Enigma52 · 06/08/2024 11:58

That's so sad for your neighbours.
It all has to stop asap. We are in the 21st century and this is happening on peoples doorsteps. Disgusting. SM has a lot to answer for!

Gladtobeout · 06/08/2024 12:00

whatkatydid2014 · 06/08/2024 08:03

Key thing missing from the equation is life span. People are living significantly longer than in the 60s (average life expectancy risen from ~71 to ~82 between 1964 and now) and proportion of the population over 65 is massive compared to the 60’s (I believe it amounts to around 9.5 million people).

True, but even omitting life span it disproves the pp's ridiculous claim that increased population is due to immigration.

H0P · 06/08/2024 12:45

m.youtube.com/watch?v=1cgeXd5kRDg

shadypines · 06/08/2024 12:48

On the videos of the riots you just see them all smirking away behind their mobile phones. Mindless thugs and many of them would be murderers by now but for police stepping in. Sickening. Feel for your neighbour and anyone else suffering same.
Media outlets should be ashamed (BBC is one) for reporting the details of the lies being spread. Talk about senseless journalism helping all this to spread like an evil wildfire. Now they're pontificating about Elon Musk.
Give me strength.

shadypines · 06/08/2024 12:55

I am in no way a fan of Musk's witterings though.

BIWI · 06/08/2024 13:27

@H0P love that Stewart Lee piece Grin

Thevelvelletes · 06/08/2024 15:04

JMSA · 06/08/2024 10:21

I feel so bad for you all Sad
So far there doesn't seem to be anything like this in Scotland.

Here's hoping that hold's up.
At least at Holyrood there hadn't been the same rhetoric spewed out about how immigrants were to blame for everything before turning attention to the disabled.
And how many millions it costs in hotel fees for immigrants...I wonder whose mates got those contracts?.

salcombebabe · 06/08/2024 15:49

This isn’t to do with the riots (or maybe it is!) but today I was in town at a major set of traffic lights where there were a stream of cars waiting to leave a one way street. The lights for these cars was on green BUT the lead car quite rightly was waiting as sirens were going and she couldn’t see to the right (blind spot) so she waited til the ambulance passed. This was approximately 1 minute. A guy two cars behind had been blaring his horn then got out, threw her car open and absolutely ranted at her for not moving! She tried to explain why but he was so full of hatred and just was so abusive. Once the ambulance went she turned right and he followed with his engine screaming and the way his tyres screeched I doubt he has any tread left 🤦‍♀️ Both were white people.
We had riots here on Sunday night so maybe he attended those? It upset me so much, I’m sick of all the hate we have in this world 😢

Abigail47 · 06/08/2024 16:03

There have been anti immigration riots all over Europe this year. I wouldn't be scared of them. They are usually young teenage lads who just have big mouths.

alrightluv · 06/08/2024 16:05

Durham being targeted now

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