I'm so fucking angry. My poor neighbour daren't go to work because of the thugs.

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Just been talking to my neighbour. He and his family are Nigerian. They haven't been here that long. Both work. They have small dcs.
He's had to take today off work as he works in a town that's been targeted and he's scared to travel.

I'm in tears I'm so angry. Those bastards wouldn't know how to fucking spell work. Luckily I got inside before I broke down. Dh is also teary. They're the loveliest family. I'm genuinely scared for my African neighbours. There's a lot of families moved here from the south because of a housing shortage. All of them that I've met are decent lovely people. Wish I could say the same for a lot of people who are from here.

We're broken aren't we? What the fuck is to be done?

It is disgraceful behaviour and not to be condoned. Neither is the intolerance towards Jewish people. Regrettably quite a lot of that intolerance has been allowed to stand on this site.
Shalom

@Naddd do you live in Tamworth where we had riots last night? If so I’ll help you just message me please x

Yep, I cried tonight when I saw the news about the Rotherham riots and attacks on a hotel housing asylum seekers. I just burst into tears. Those poor people having fled their own country, to be faced with this shite in the 'civilised' United Kingdom. The people doing this are racist thugs, nothing more.

I don't have any answers sorry, but I do believe they are a minority and will be brought to justice.

Bless you, no i don't but thank you.

There are good people here.

I hope the poor animal was taken to the vets afterwards and inoculated against every disease possible. You don't know what he could have caught off that rioter!

Wonder if these thigs would refuse medical treatment from a doctor if they weren't white British? Fucking eejits.

That is not to justify appalling violent behaviour but like in Tottenham in 2011 the rioters are self harming because it's the only power they have.

No, no way is this true. These are people who in years gone by would be football hooligans, just looking for a reason to act out. Some are business owners, or people with decent standards of living.

How could you possibly be impressed with Starmer? He clearly can’t get a grip on this. He needs to call the army in and put a stop to this because it is continuing to escalate.

I'm a data manager and even I was caught very sharply by the uk's increase in population as reported in the most recent census. I was born in the 60s and the population figure was about 56 mill. The latest census reports the UK population at nearly 70 mill. That is a very large increase over a very short time period. Which isn't due to the population in the 1960s having far more children. That increase is due to immigration in, regardless of colour, nationality, race, religion. So yes there is an impact to the country from inward immigration. And it is fair to say so. Of course there are multiple benefits so we can discuss those too. Taxes from earnings, higher skilled workforce, Cultural benefits, greater worldwide links etc. But to disregard the impact to this country from immigration is naive and unreal.

I heard once that when you cry it's a way of processing a sudden change in belief system. Like when someone dies suddenly or your bf breaks up with you without warning etc and I always thought that was pretty accurate based on my own experience. If that is true and you are in tears over what's going on then you haven't been paying close enough attention to the mood of the nation because this was obvious to many people (myself included) and I'm not white and I'm not English but I could feel the tension building over the years and it has been compounded by the outright refusal to have a balanced and honest discussion about immigration concerns. By labelling all of these people as racists the left have created a 'far right' that didn't exist 10 years ago. 10 years ago they were just people asking legit questions and now they have been inoculated to the name calling and are starting to own the far right label. I wouldn't worry too much about your neighbours: if they can survive Nigeria trust me they can survive this. I'd be more concerned about the fact that the governments of this country on all sides are united in that they do not listen to their own people. From the Iraq war to covid to this: they stick their fingers in their ears and defame anyone who questions them. Who exactly are they working for? History has taught us that this won't end well.

This is very true. I got rid of my Facebook and Instagram accounts a few years ago.
It's the way bullshit of all kinds is being spread and there is zero regulation.

I am with you OP. Its a total disgrace.

This hits the nail on the head .

It's terrible.

I'm black and someone was walking up behind me today in the supermarket. I panicked because they were a bit close and I would get attacked. I'm a bit on edge in open public at the moment tbh.

When the black footballers missed the penalties, my nephew was racially abused and chased by a group of young men. Luckily he ran fast enough to safety.

My daughter was apprehensive about popping to the shops this evening because of this.

It's people who are racist thugs and using this as an excuse for violence. Shameful behaviour.

I hope those inciting the violence and participating in it feel the full force of the law.

The focus should be on the victims and families in Southport.

Apologies I haven’t read the whole thread but I am sorry Op your neighbours feel this way I am angry and disgusted by the riots. The poor families of the children killed don’t need this

It’s mindless violence endangering innocent people and causing damage to property which will cost the taxpayers money to repair communities

i don’t want to come across as benefit bashing or stereotyping and certainly not tarring everyone with the same brush as that would make me as bad as the protesters but from my experience and what’s on social media the people complaining and protesting about so called immigrants which in their small mind includes anyone of a different race or religion despite if they are born here taking all the jobs getting housing benefits etc are people who don’t work themselves and have no intention of working they seem to forget for example that consultant Dr who wasn’t British who treated them made them better and pays taxes and national insurance into our system that pays their benefits

The issue is that many sectors/industries in the UK depend on immigrants because the indigenous population won't work. I do not include those who can't work in that.

Perhaps if many of the indigenous population had the grit to move for work, we would be a more productive Society.

I did message one of those affected and asked if there was a clean up party and if so could I come and help but they had already sorted out best that they could, I have a lovely relationship with our Muslim neighbour's we send cards for eid ,flowers for weddings, chocolate for Christmas chat in the street and they always think of us during our celebrations , we put each other's bins out it is a diverse but a community minded area, tonight I asked my husband to take my nearly 15 to the shop because I'm too worried about a gang retaliating about the Graves being vandalized. The community are angry at these yobs and rightly so x

TBF as this is Britain, a couple of chilly, wet and windy days will stop it in its tracks.

Poor people this world has gone mad, I agree with another poster, shut down social media for a while.

But they're the ones that own the XL bully's! (Unregistered of course)

This is the really sad thing about these riots. Innocent people are prevented from going about their business by these protesters, it's so wrong. They are selfishly harming others.

Was the 60s the start of the 2.5 children figure?

So 56mil / 2 = 28mil (2 parents)

28mil x 2.5 = 70mil

That's only 1 generations growth! There should be an average of 3 generations since the 60s.

So 60s = 56mil
80s = 70mil
00s = 87.5mil
20s = 109.4mil

So population growth has slowed.

You don't seem to have a very good grasp of data for a data manager, do you?

Side note:
Hasn't emigration been greater than immigration over the last few decades?

Liverpool mosque has reported that Muslim women wearing hijaab have had flammable liquid thrown at them by thugs intent on setting them on fire.

I've just moved to Hull with my three children after having to move locality due to my abusive ex. I'm mixed race and the children are lighter than me. It's very upsetting that we've only been here for a few weeks and I'm having to consider our movements. It was my daughter's birthday today and myself and my 12yr old had to go into the city to get her a few things yesterday. I couldn't believe it when my son said that he was scared to go. Like he hasn't been through enough.

That's what I keep thinking regarding the hotels housing refugees - those poor people have been through so much, and are currently in what I'd consider depressing circumstances holed up in a hotel room, just for these clueless tossers to try and burn them to the ground.

I will say though that everywhere I have managed to go, the people of Hull are as friendly and warm as I've always known them to be. I pray that these pathetic, ignorant losers are in the minority. People blame Farage for a lot and yes, of course he disgusts me, but I blame the Tories for this mostly. To stay in power they created project fear and division.

Another sad angle is that my son has been considering career options of late and we thought the police force would be a good choice for him. I have major concerns with the police, as I'm sure many people of colour do, but I know that it would suit his protective side. However, watching the police deal with this is heartbreaking. Their families must be so worried about them heading out to work.

I do hope that they find the majority of these people. The police look a bit powerless. I think Starmer will be tough on the rioters though when their days in court come.

We are booked for a few days in London next week. I'm so apprehensive and unsure whether to cancel it. Thank you for starting this topic op. You sound so kind and wonderful. It's also am eye-opener that others are unfortunately feeling the fear that I am. Let's hope it starts coming to an end.

My beautiful olive skinned Spanish friend has been called a P**ki. The thugs are targeting anyone not gammon coloured and I am so angry.

Do we think this will continue over the next week?

I couldn't find any information on further protests. Just hoping they don't hit our smaller towns.