Why are majority of the riots in northern towns?

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DH & I were watching the riots on the news this morning like most people absolutely horrified.

He's from one of the northern towns affected although we live in the south and started discussing why these riots now (and historically) tend to be more focused on northern towns but didn't really come up with any one thing. Any thoughts on this?

I thought the same. Mining up here disappeared decades ago. And fishing isn’t a huge industry here in the North. Never has been. I would say fishing is probably something which might have been big in Scotland, and even down south on the coasts there. The only place in the North where fishing is still a big part of the community is probably Hull.

Nothing to do with the North , just areas of the UK where there is more trouble in general . I’m in Portsmouth on the South coast , we did have a bit of trouble here but not to the extent of up there. My husband is in Glasgow for the weekend and said nothing happened there . All very civilised and was his first visit, he was surprised how lovely the city was.
This was always a ticking time bomb , High immigration , shortage of homes, uneducated drug induced parents with feral children , gang mentality …. Of course it was going to happen , just a case of when and the recent murders of those poor girls just tipped the balance

Some people have been in the U.K. for several years, decades even, and still can’t speak even basic English. They need an interpreter for their NHS appointments and it costs the state a lot of extra money. It seems wrong that we pay for ongoing refusal to integrate while someone else’s teeth are falling out because he can’t access an NHS dentist due to government cuts.

I am not usually one for conspiracy theories but I imagine Putin is very pleased by all this.
I also find it interesting that this has happened after Labour was elected, it is almost as if some Right wing influences are trying to cause trouble for them.
If immigration has got "out of control" under The Tories then why have these riots occured almost as oon as The Tories lose the election?

I see the racists AND snobs are out in force.

Absolutely, It certainly was more than TR but because he is a mouthpiece his statement went further.
SM is not our friend currently. Too many people saying things that are not true and other people not fact checking before sharing.

I’m not referencing London I started that they are kidding themselves if they think the whole of the south east is an integrated place - it isn’t! There are many villages In Home Counties where there is no diversity.

Exactly. I admit I am jealous that Londoners get free public transport for kids. It would make a massive difference. Public transport is so expensive.

Decades of anti White working classism

I agree with you and it probably isn’t a conspiracy is it?

I live in a Bradford, and it’s very deprived in areas. But the Lakes and Yorkshire Dales are only an hour’s car drive from here. And in fact we have Howarth on our doorstep, so far untouched by the issues in Bradford. There’s a good train network connecting us to the Lakes and other national parks.

Agree ^

There has been plenty of riots in London, Bristol. The ones in Tottenham forgotten?
it’s not that people are racist, areas are FLOODED with communities that are not interested in intergrating at all in instances.
funniest thing I have saw all weekend tho is nobody has posted about the matters going on?? Or the posts haven’t been allowed to be saw but this one has?
It may be people are just fed up by two tiered expectations
btw I am not in agreement with the riots but can understand why it’s happening to a degree.

Well they are not allowed to work while they hang in limbo so obviously the HO would have to pay. If the claims were processed more quickly, people could get on their feet, work and contribute to society.

And this is again where media should hang their heads in shame, releasing first only the last part of the video before the full video of what actually happened. They constantly stoke division, whether it’s ’far left’ or ‘far right’ they constantly divide people and sensationalise.

There’s a lot of racism in the UK against white British people. Ironically often from other white British people. (I’m not white British so I feel I can say that.)

This is ridiculous. Is Suella Braverman posting again.

I thought they were a ltd company and don't understand how they could stand as a political party at all. bnp got proscribed years ago but that is the root of ukip which is the root of reform ltd

A lot of the rioters identify with naziism and I've read a lot of glorifying of it from people that say they are 'patriots' in their twitter bios

It works both ways though, surely? Yes we can listen, understand and agree that there's large areas of deprivation and poverty in the UK and we can look at demographics who feel they are marginalised and left behind. I'm from a northern mill town, and have never had money, I understand what that is like.

But on the flipside, the people on that side of the argument need to listen to people when they say they object to racism. And find ways of tackling the societal problems together. I know exactly the sorts of things I would do to help my local community if I was lucky enough to win the lottery (never gonna happen though).

People are society. We come in all packages and forms, races and religions. We should try to tackle issues together cohesively. I can't see how trashing cities has helped anyone.

Oh, hello racist!
I can't understand why people want to burn down libraries, throw beer bottles at police horses, punch asylum seekers and smash up someone's car because they are of Asian appearance all the while shouting 'This is England' and 'Tommy, Tommy!'

But you can understand all of that? Guess that makes you a racist, or at best, an apologist for racists.

Because of poverty, corrupt councils and high rates of immigration legal and illegal.

Its the same dynamic historically everywhere.
Also crucially Labour and Conservatives did nothing about the grooming gangs across the north for fear of looking racist

This exactly! 👍

I think it’s more likely that people concerned about immigration know that Labour will do nothing to address them, and will actually make things worse, rather than any right wing influences. I think people realised we we’re screwed under a Tory government, but that we’re going to be more screwed under Labour. People didn’t vote for Labour because they like them and thought they would get us out of this mess, but more that they just disliked the Tories more and wanted them out. No-one is really expecting the UK to do any better under Labour.