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What is labour coming for next?

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MikeRafone · 30/07/2024 17:33

I reckon after 12 years of dozen fuel duty that drivers will be next

what tax will the collect next to fill the black hole

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dottiehens · 30/07/2024 18:01

Plus the wish list here 🤣🤣🤣 out of a communism book.

Countrylife2002 · 30/07/2024 18:02

@dottiehens but at the moment there are 1000s of families either homeless or on the verge of it or living in poverty or struggling. Something has to be done to make society fairer. I don’t want to pay more tax but I work in a field where I can see the current situation is not sustainable . I mean , we have food banks for gods sake !

Santagotrippedoffbyareindeer · 30/07/2024 18:02

Countrylife2002 · 30/07/2024 17:55

Maybe it would be a good idea to raise council tax for home owners, so that there is a differentiation between what renters pay and what home owners pay (speaking a a home owner I know how lucky I am). Graduated progressive rise depending on value of property.

No

Teentaxidriver · 30/07/2024 18:03

All of the above. You have to hand it to RR, the patter is almost convincing.

Countrylife2002 · 30/07/2024 18:05

Littlemissnikib · 30/07/2024 18:01

How would you police that though?!?!

and how would it be fair? You could go to Australia and I could fly to Scotland!

Part of the point is to reduce shorter flights though isn’t it ?
put the money into making trains better

absquatulize · 30/07/2024 18:05

Airbrb · 30/07/2024 17:54

Not just the “black hole”
they are also doing major spending on teacher/doctor pay etc
They have to find billions and billions.
There is a limit to what they can take from richer people before they emigrate or change their behaviour.

so it will have to come from normal people, like the winter fuel withdrawal

they’ll have to increase tax on petrol, for example

There doesn't appear to have been a limit on what the rich are prepared to take from poorer people, so why shouldn't it work in reverse for a while?

dottiehens · 30/07/2024 18:05

Countrylife2002 · 30/07/2024 18:02

@dottiehens but at the moment there are 1000s of families either homeless or on the verge of it or living in poverty or struggling. Something has to be done to make society fairer. I don’t want to pay more tax but I work in a field where I can see the current situation is not sustainable . I mean , we have food banks for gods sake !

Well I have paid thousands in taxes and I am not going to be paying more. We decided to move. Are those homeless people who moved here poor and stayed poor? You will never catch up. This became a country of fantasists.

CurlewKate · 30/07/2024 18:06

You @MikeRafone. We are coming for YOU!!!!

itsturtlesallthewaydown · 30/07/2024 18:07

It's not so much tax but inequality that needs to be fixed. The top 5% have an obscene amount of wealth compared to the bottom 50%.

Work is now so insecure and so many people can never dream of owning a home.

In the days of industry workers had decent manual jobs and unions to support them.

Now it's all zero hours contracts and wages screwed as low as they can go.

We need strong unions again across all large companies, so places like Amazon, Uber etc can't just screw their workers.

Countrylife2002 · 30/07/2024 18:08

dottiehens · 30/07/2024 18:05

Well I have paid thousands in taxes and I am not going to be paying more. We decided to move. Are those homeless people who moved here poor and stayed poor? You will never catch up. This became a country of fantasists.

“Those homeless people” are people like you and me who have worked all their lives and seen rents spiral while wages don’t. Landlord sells up and suddenly there is nowhere affordable where they pass what are very stringent credit checks. Or they lose their job or become unwell. There are people living in hostels with their kids who have worked all their lives and now they can’t find anywhere to rent .

ticktickticktickBOOM · 30/07/2024 18:08

I'd agree with tax on forecourt petrol and diesel, and a tax on large cars/SUV's. They are too big for car parks, they block the vision on roads.

We really don't need to spend money on unnecessary things like changing the A level system or vanity projects.

The subsidised food and drink at Westminster is a joke. Cheapest menu and alcohol in the country. They should pay the going rate.
Subsidise fresh British fruit and veg for all schools instead.

Santagotrippedoffbyareindeer · 30/07/2024 18:09

Countrylife2002 · 30/07/2024 18:08

“Those homeless people” are people like you and me who have worked all their lives and seen rents spiral while wages don’t. Landlord sells up and suddenly there is nowhere affordable where they pass what are very stringent credit checks. Or they lose their job or become unwell. There are people living in hostels with their kids who have worked all their lives and now they can’t find anywhere to rent .

They need to move people through and out of social housing. If you no longer need a 3 bed home you're out. Earn too much? You're out.

ilovesooty · 30/07/2024 18:09

Countrylife2002 · 30/07/2024 18:08

“Those homeless people” are people like you and me who have worked all their lives and seen rents spiral while wages don’t. Landlord sells up and suddenly there is nowhere affordable where they pass what are very stringent credit checks. Or they lose their job or become unwell. There are people living in hostels with their kids who have worked all their lives and now they can’t find anywhere to rent .

I imagine she means asylum seekers and immigrants. 🙄

backslashruby · 30/07/2024 18:09

Insurance Premium Tax. As I recall it started out at 3% but over the years it has crept up to 12%. It will go up a bit more and then it will be abolished and replaced by VAT. You read it here first.

Littlemissnikib · 30/07/2024 18:10

If they had better public transport it would be better but not doable at the moment.

My best friend lives in Belfast. It takes 45 minutes on the plane (plus 1.5 hour drive either end). If I didn’t fly I’d have to drive to Liverpool (from Swindon) and then get a ferry across. It would take an inordinate amount of time and would be far more expensive.

absquatulize · 30/07/2024 18:11

ilovesooty · 30/07/2024 18:09

I imagine she means asylum seekers and immigrants. 🙄

Ah, because they are the cause of homelessness, not the people who own the million empty homes in the UK.

WestSussexMomFriend · 30/07/2024 18:11

How about on takeaways, processed foods, tobacco, alcohol and sugary drinks? And clawbacks on salaries of the non productive public sector workers, consultancy firms being brought in on extortionate amounts to cover ass, and the people using public monies to become rich, or who scam the system etc? We can reduce our cost base via the cost of an unfit population, add some taxes and reduce the benefits bill. Agree Michelle Mone etc should be targeted for clawbacks too as part of the principle.

The rich will only accept so many tax rises and they are exceptionally mobile; IHT, IGT increases, increased company taxation and costs etc will see the people who earn and spend the most leave, leaving the UK weaker. They are an easy group to target but having them leave will be disastrous - and I know a lot leaving now. We’ll go soon too. Can’t wait to leave the place frankly. But the UK Inc will miss our massive tax bill, large levels of VATable spending, and our employees tax and spending.

dottiehens · 30/07/2024 18:11

Countrylife2002 · 30/07/2024 18:08

“Those homeless people” are people like you and me who have worked all their lives and seen rents spiral while wages don’t. Landlord sells up and suddenly there is nowhere affordable where they pass what are very stringent credit checks. Or they lose their job or become unwell. There are people living in hostels with their kids who have worked all their lives and now they can’t find anywhere to rent .

Well I have paid more than I would in any civilised country. Worse of all we are always insulted and mocked so not even concerned or guilty about anything anymore. I need to think of my own family first.

newmummycwharf1 · 30/07/2024 18:16

Countrylife2002 · 30/07/2024 17:50

Yes I’d go for taxes on luxuries and wealth - so taxes added on more than one flight trip a year , whack taxes on ridiculous sized cars, increased council tax on luxury homes, increased capital gains and inheritance. Gap between the wealthy and those who are struggling needs to be hugely reduced.

I can’t see an across the board fuel duty rise but definitely I can see something for the larger cars .

Why must the gap be reduced by taking from the wealthy instead of adding to the poor🤔

RationalityIsHard · 30/07/2024 18:16

WestSussexMomFriend · 30/07/2024 18:11

How about on takeaways, processed foods, tobacco, alcohol and sugary drinks? And clawbacks on salaries of the non productive public sector workers, consultancy firms being brought in on extortionate amounts to cover ass, and the people using public monies to become rich, or who scam the system etc? We can reduce our cost base via the cost of an unfit population, add some taxes and reduce the benefits bill. Agree Michelle Mone etc should be targeted for clawbacks too as part of the principle.

The rich will only accept so many tax rises and they are exceptionally mobile; IHT, IGT increases, increased company taxation and costs etc will see the people who earn and spend the most leave, leaving the UK weaker. They are an easy group to target but having them leave will be disastrous - and I know a lot leaving now. We’ll go soon too. Can’t wait to leave the place frankly. But the UK Inc will miss our massive tax bill, large levels of VATable spending, and our employees tax and spending.

Are you off to Dubai? Or the US? If so, rather you than me, I'd not trust either of those places as an expat.

FormerlyPathologicallyHappy · 30/07/2024 18:18

You all realise the super rich can just move abroad don’t you? They aren’t tied to Blighty.

Cutting the heads off the tall poppies doesn’t work.

dottiehens · 30/07/2024 18:19

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ticktickticktickBOOM · 30/07/2024 18:19

absquatulize · 30/07/2024 18:11

Ah, because they are the cause of homelessness, not the people who own the million empty homes in the UK.

People buying small second homes in rural/coastal locations to rent out as airBnB / hoilday rents are contributing hugely to the housing crisis.

The airbnb / holiday lets market, needs seriously looking at. There are no small homes or flats left in my seaside town. Our children will have to leave town in order to move out of home.

absquatulize · 30/07/2024 18:21

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I should have thought for many people the country is genuinely unbearable to live in because they have no where to live, and yet there are a million empty homes. How the owners of those homes aren't able to link the two I don't know.

RationalityIsHard · 30/07/2024 18:21

FormerlyPathologicallyHappy · 30/07/2024 18:18

You all realise the super rich can just move abroad don’t you? They aren’t tied to Blighty.

Cutting the heads off the tall poppies doesn’t work.

They can’t take their houses or commercial properties.

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